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Blockbuster Blues Trade - Thoughts

Créé par: MitchMarner_16
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 21 août 2020
Publié: 21 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 375 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
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22 250 000 $
1725 009 $
Transactions
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TOR
  1. Barbashev, Ivan
  2. Bozak, Tyler
  3. Parayko, Colton
  4. Semin, Dmitri [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Leafs get their Long coveted top pair RHD. They get a solid middle six centreman. Also they get the Bozak contract and a 1st.
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  2. Hollowell, Mac
  3. Nylander, William
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
STL. Gets some top line scoring and speed from Nylander. A solid Bottom 4 defenceman, who can be used instead of gunnarson. They also way move down in the draft at the benefit of getting Mac Hollowell and a plethora of draft picks.
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3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (MIN)
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21 août 2020 à 7 h 29
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I dunno about that STL trade. I don't think there's much incentive to move Parayko, and the offer doesn't really blow any minds in a sense. By default, TOR would have to overpay to get a player like Parayko.

SJ can't afford to take that offer in. They have too many bad contracts as it is.

Also I don't think Kerfoot holds that much value... 3rd line centers rarely bring you two seconds, especially from a team with high draft number.
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21 août 2020 à 7 h 31
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Quoting: justaBoss
I dunno about that STL trade. I don't think there's much incentive to move Parayko, and the offer doesn't really blow any minds in a sense. By default, TOR would have to overpay to get a player like Parayko.

SJ can't afford to take that offer in. They have too many bad contracts as it is.

Also I don't think Kerfoot holds that much value... 3rd line centers rarely bring you two seconds, especially from a team with high draft number.


I think this trade helps STL by taking Bozak and allowing them to resign Petro
21 août 2020 à 7 h 34
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I think this trade helps STL by taking Bozak and allowing them to resign Petro


Trading Bozak won't cost them much by default. He's still a decent player.

I dunno if re-signing Petro is even in the plans of STL...somehow it feels like they might be doing a bit of an age cut for their roster, like bringing players like Perunovich and Kyrou in.
21 août 2020 à 7 h 49
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My thoughts? I think you guys have an untreated obsession with an exhausting fantasy that will obviously never come true. And that this offer is a sad joke. We move down to get Hollowell?!? Good grief, man.

Hey, you asked. (shrugs)
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21 août 2020 à 7 h 59
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delete this all of these trades are brutal for the leafs
21 août 2020 à 9 h 0
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Parayko is way more value than Nylander, st Louis says no. Especially with pietro unsigned and uncertain
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 13
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So, one of the better face off centers in the league. One of the top tier shut down defensman in the league, an up an comer in barbashev, a prospect and a lst rounder for nylander and a bunch of other stuff St. Louis obviously doesn't want dumped with. Do you guys play GM on easy mode in NHL2020 and then export the trade to here? Why not offer up nylander for crosby, malkin and letang?
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 22
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Quoting: MakeMarnerACentre
delete this all of these trades are brutal for the leafs


lol the other team loses every trade except maybe SJS but the leafs would have to clear the cap somehow
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: justaBoss
Trading Bozak won't cost them much by default. He's still a decent player.

I dunno if re-signing Petro is even in the plans of STL...somehow it feels like they might be doing a bit of an age cut for their roster, like bringing players like Perunovich and Kyrou in.


The Wild would probably take Bozak if the Blues look to move him. Doubt they'd give up anything significant, but the Blues certainly wouldn't be paying to unload him on them.
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 27
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lol the other team loses every trade


Thank you for being sane.
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 27
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Quoting: MakeMarnerACentre
delete this all of these trades are brutal for the leafs


Kerfoot is not worth a pair of 2nd round picks..
21 août 2020 à 9 h 30
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Thank you for being sane.


like to think of myself as one of the few somewhat sane leafs fans left. Of course I did go a bit insane after we lost in the (not even the) first round again lol
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21 août 2020 à 9 h 34
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lol the other team loses every trade

ahhahahahahahahaha thank god youre not the leafs GM
21 août 2020 à 9 h 45
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l Of course I did go a bit insane after we lost in the (not even the) first round again lol



It's to be expected. You're only human (I think).
21 août 2020 à 9 h 45
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ahhahahahahahahaha thank god youre not the leafs GM


ahahahahahahahahaha Parayko and Barbashev > Nylander and Dermott
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21 août 2020 à 10 h 1
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ahahahahahahahahaha Parayko and Barbashev > Nylander and Dermott

Nylander>Parayko long term, parayko has 2 years left. why would you give up willy for a player that will probably walk in 2 seasons
21 août 2020 à 10 h 2
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Nylander>Parayko long term, parayko has 2 years left. why would you give up willy for a player that will probably walk in 2 seasons


he's an elite shutdown #1RHD. Always more valuable than a sub point per game winger
21 août 2020 à 10 h 4
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he's an elite shutdown #1RHD. Always more valuable than a sub point per game winger

a 40 goal scoring 70+ point player is a "sub" point per game winger? yikes dude
21 août 2020 à 11 h 25
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a 40 goal scoring 70+ point player is a "sub" point per game winger? yikes dude


Um, yes?
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21 août 2020 à 11 h 41
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I agree with the sentiment of others here, there is no trading Parayko. That being said, a fantasy trade for him requires the Leafs GM to lose and offer a painful trade. Pieces that you really don't want to give up like Nylander and Robertson and Sandin would have to be part of an overpayment you would never make.
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21 août 2020 à 14 h 6
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a 40 goal scoring 70+ point player is a "sub" point per game winger? yikes dude


40 goal my butt. The guy has barely managed to score 30 once.
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21 août 2020 à 14 h 42
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a 40 goal scoring 70+ point player is a "sub" point per game winger? yikes dude


do you know what "sub" point per game means? Was he going to score 82+ points?
21 août 2020 à 14 h 42
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40 goal my butt. The guy has barely managed to score 30 once.

to be fair he was on pace for 37 before the shutdown
21 août 2020 à 14 h 47
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Classic 11-asset trade, with one guy who I've never even heard of.

Edit: he's a 37-yr-old unrestricted free agent in the KHL lol
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21 août 2020 à 14 h 56
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to be fair he was on pace for 37 before the shutdown


Better than I expected, but still hardly a 40 goal player.
 
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