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Would the oilers consider this

Créé par: GenXHockey
Date de création initiale: aoû 17, 2020
Publié: 20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 02
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dermott, Travis1875 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya22 000 000 $
Bear, Ethan33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1750 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bilyalov, Timur1925 000 $
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TOR
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
EDM
  1. Andersen, Frederik (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Frederik Andersen: 2 500 000 $ (50%)
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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TOR
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STL
WPG
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TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
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TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
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TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
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C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
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UFA - 4
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Spezza, Jason
750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Korshkov, Yegor
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Bear, Ethan
3 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Bilyalov, Timur
925 000 $
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Dermott, Travis
875 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
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UFA - 1
TOR
Brooks, Adam
725 000 $
C
RFA - 2

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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 02
#1
Oilers GM
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no
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 03
#2
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That would be awfully risky but interesting for sure.
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 04
#3
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Nope
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 05
#4
Hey Beter
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I would entertain Bear for Nylander, but not for anything else. Not necessarily as a one-for-one. Quality matters here.
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 09
#5
MK458
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No
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 10
#6
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would entertain Bear for Nylander, but not for anything else. Not necessarily as a one-for-one. Quality matters here.


Yeah Bear has definitely shown enough to be worth Nylander. This site is ****ing ridiculous
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 15
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Andersen can just leave in a year and Kapanen is good, but bottom 6 good. EDM needs to develop their young D
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 15
#8
Hey Beter
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Quoting: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood
Yeah Bear has definitely shown enough to be worth Nylander. This site is ****ing ridiculous


You'd figure with nearly 16,000 posts you might be able to read them instead of just stringing them along.

I explicitly state that it wouldn't be a one-for-one deal.

Bear is also apt to sign a deal cheaper than Holl, but be capable of playing in the top four. Do you think teams should just line up to gift the Maple Leafs what they want?
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 17
#9
Moderators Are Soft
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Leafs wouldn't consider it either. This is a joke.
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 20
#10
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would entertain Bear for Nylander, but not for anything else. Not necessarily as a one-for-one. Quality matters here.


I would do that 100%
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 23
#11
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Probably should, but I doubt it.
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 28
#12
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i like oilers fans because they make leafs fans look good
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 35
#13
KM87
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Bear is overvalued by Oilers fans. He's basically a RD Travis Dermott & nothing more.
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 39
#14
Still a Leafs Fan
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The amount of No s i saw from this hahaha
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20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 44
#15
Jeuck75
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No!
20 aoû 2020 à 15 h 45
#16
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Hell no.
20 aoû 2020 à 17 h 24
#17
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
You'd figure with nearly 16,000 posts you might be able to read them instead of just stringing them along.

I explicitly state that it wouldn't be a one-for-one deal.

Bear is also apt to sign a deal cheaper than Holl, but be capable of playing in the top four. Do you think teams should just line up to gift the Maple Leafs what they want?


You suggested Bear starts with Nylander. That is ridiculous the other things necessary to make that remotely fair are huge.
20 aoû 2020 à 17 h 41
#18
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
I would entertain Bear for Nylander, but not for anything else. Not necessarily as a one-for-one. Quality matters here.


Well since you were one of the few with a constructive comment... maybe the only one lol...,

My line of thought was Andersen at 2.5m is a steal and Kapanen up with mcdavid would fun to watch. Not many people in the nhl that can touch their speed. Still leaves you with Larsson Bouchard and benning on rd.

Value wise I thought it might be a bit of an overpay, which it would need to be to try and get a player they aren’t looking to move.

Bear had a good season and an iffy play in round. Can certainly see why you would want to hold on to him and see how he develops.
20 aoû 2020 à 17 h 45
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Quoting: masterjuddi
Andersen can just leave in a year and Kapanen is good, but bottom 6 good. EDM needs to develop their young D


Kappy is a low end first liner or a high end second liner based on production. In Toronto he is pushed back by nylander and marner but still produces at a high rate for a 2nd liner. In Edmonton it would be a no brainer to match him up with mcdavid. Yes I know anyone can play with mcdavid but kappy can actually skate with him.

The idea was to give you a goalie at a great price. If he performs well re sign him, if not.... he still played better than 2.5m.
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20 aoû 2020 à 17 h 48
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Quoting: KM87
Bear is overvalued by Oilers fans. He's basically a RD Travis Dermott & nothing more.


I feel the same way. I really do think it’s tome Dermott got some recognition and a bigger role. But you know, it’s cap friendly. You put Dermott at 1RD and everyone is like “ThAt DeFeNcE tHoUgH...”
20 aoû 2020 à 17 h 57
#21
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It would be pretty folish to reject this. Plus with their pick in the top 15 they can easily replace bear in the draft. They can draft a player like Braden Schneider who can crack the lineup in a year or two. They got Bouchard who looks ready and can potentially replace bear and cost much less. In addition, the oilers get a fast wing to pair with Mcdavid and a better goaltender who can play more games. Sure they lose a young RHD but with their draft pick and assets coming back it works.

I mean a dcore of

Klefbolm-Larsson
Nurse-Bouchard
Jones-Russel/Benning
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21 aoû 2020 à 9 h 58
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Kappy is a low end first liner or a high end second liner based on production. In Toronto he is pushed back by nylander and marner but still produces at a high rate for a 2nd liner. In Edmonton it would be a no brainer to match him up with mcdavid. Yes I know anyone can play with mcdavid but kappy can actually skate with him.

The idea was to give you a goalie at a great price. If he performs well re sign him, if not.... he still played better than 2.5m.


If Im the oilers I would just take a run at Lehnor or Holtby for my goalie instead of paying for one year of Andersen.
21 aoû 2020 à 12 h 06
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Quoting: masterjuddi
If Im the oilers I would just take a run at Lehnor or Holtby for my goalie instead of paying for one year of Andersen.


Either one of them going to sign for 2.5m? Holtby will be 31 when the next season starts, is that a long term option? Lehner would be great if you could get him to sign for 4-5 years, but that will be a 6m deal at least in my opinion. Then you would need to move Koskinen. And find a backup.
24 aoû 2020 à 10 h 05
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Either one of them going to sign for 2.5m? Holtby will be 31 when the next season starts, is that a long term option? Lehner would be great if you could get him to sign for 4-5 years, but that will be a 6m deal at least in my opinion. Then you would need to move Koskinen. And find a backup.


That's exactly what you do. Make cap space to fill a huge hole. Why give up a promising young Dman for a one year audition of Andersen?
24 aoû 2020 à 13 h 25
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Quoting: masterjuddi
That's exactly what you do. Make cap space to fill a huge hole. Why give up a promising young Dman for a one year audition of Andersen?


That’s why Kapanen is involved. Would be lob sided in term otherwise. With Larsson Bouchard and benning. Thought it would be worth a try.
 
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