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Winning Now and Rebuilding for the Future

Créé par: edeangel84
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 17 août 2020
Publié: 17 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Yes I know all these moves aren’t going to happen but this lineup gives us a chance to not only win now, but to stock up picks for one of the deepest drafts in years

And we get another Sid and the Kids line!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2950 000 $
31 500 000 $
22 300 000 $
33 500 000 $
23 750 000 $
3850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 250 000 $
13 250 000 $
14 000 000 $
23 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Kunin, Luke [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MIN)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
3.
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
CGY
  1. Letang, Kris (1 250 000 $ retained)
4.
PIT
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
  2. Riikola, Juuso [Droits de RFA]
5.
PIT
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Légaré, Nathan
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
6.
PIT
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
CAR
  1. McCann, Jared [Droits de RFA]
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2020
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2021
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de ANA
2022
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Logo de PIT
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Logo de PIT
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 994 342 $0 $850 000 $4 505 658 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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894 167 $894 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
850 000 $850 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
700 000 $700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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17 août 2020 à 22 h 8
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Ouchy all over the place. Perhaps most with trading a first to move up 5 spots in this years draft...would only be worth it to be in 1st or maybe 2nd OA.
17 août 2020 à 22 h 10
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Quoting: Newcort0
Ouchy all over the place. Perhaps most with trading a first to move up 5 spots in this years draft...would only be worth it to be in 1st or maybe 2nd OA.


Thats the 10th pick in this draft. We could get an extremely talented player that would normally go top 5 in most drafts. We could land a sniper like Seth Jarvis
17 août 2020 à 22 h 13
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Thats the 10th pick in this draft. We could get an extremely talented player that would normally go top 5 in most drafts. We could land a sniper like Seth Jarvis


Even if I could get on board with that idea...why wouldn’t you give up the Calgary first rounder you got in the bad Letang trade?
17 août 2020 à 22 h 14
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Can you replace Kunin with Donato?
17 août 2020 à 22 h 16
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Even if I could get on board with that idea...why wouldn’t you give up the Calgary first rounder you got in the bad Letang trade?


Because why would I give up another first in a deep draft to save a first in a weaker draft? And that “bad” trade dumped 5 plus million allowing me to sign two players who have the ability to match or surpass Letang’s points production in Shattenkirk and Gustafsson.
17 août 2020 à 22 h 17
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Can you replace Kunin with Donato?


Sorry not when we’re giving up a guy who scored 40 before
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17 août 2020 à 22 h 19
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Thats the 10th pick in this draft. We could get an extremely talented player that would normally go top 5 in most drafts. We could land a sniper like Seth Jarvis


the difference in talent from 10 to 15 is minimal.

And at no point does trading a 40 goal winger help this team.
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17 août 2020 à 22 h 27
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Quoting: edeangel84
Sorry not when we’re giving up a guy who scored 40 before


You guys are both nuts. Jake ain't worth that as his number will drop when he isn't playing with Sid. And Donato is 5x the player Kunin is... the stats show it, he scores more points per minutes played that most of the Wild team. Are you the reason Donato is stuck in the mystical dog house? Makes no sense....
17 août 2020 à 22 h 28
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Sorry not when we’re giving up a guy who scored 40 before


What would need to be added on top of Donato? Cause we kinda really need Kunin. After him our only right shot forward is Hartman
17 août 2020 à 22 h 30
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Quoting: pharrow
the difference in talent from 10 to 15 is minimal.

And at no point does trading a 40 goal winger help this team.


Do you not believe the two players I have playing with Sid can score more than 40 goals? Sid made Guentzel and Sheary. Obviously Sheary has been exposed since and Jake has proven he can play but do you think he’s ever sniffing 40 goals again when he’s not playing with 87? I think two first round wingers in their early 20s with Sid is dangerous, not to mention Malkin getting Zucker and Rust as linemates. Kunin gives us another RH shot in the top six. Singing Haula gives us an actual 3rd line C unlike McCann who’s a LW and he’s great at face offs. The blue line is better. Marino will improve and Shattenkirk can score around 40 points playing the kind of minutes Letang logs. Gustafsson and Montour would be a second pair on most teams. Then you get Greiss as a reliable 1B to Jarry. This team isn’t going out in round one
17 août 2020 à 22 h 30
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You guys are both nuts. Jake ain't worth that as his number will drop when he isn't playing with Sid. And Donato is 5x the player Kunin is... the stats show it, he scores more points per minutes played that most of the Wild team. Are you the reason Donato is stuck in the mystical dog house? Makes no sense....


Hey, I'm not extatic about how much were giving up. Just trying to negotiate a minor detail
17 août 2020 à 22 h 31
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Because why would I give up another first in a deep draft to save a first in a weaker draft? And that “bad” trade dumped 5 plus million allowing me to sign two players who have the ability to match or surpass Letang’s points production in Shattenkirk and Gustafsson.


The upcoming draft is more times than not billed up as a DEEP draft. The only safe assumption with next years draft is that the scouting will be truncated.

On Letang, I like Marino but do you think he is ready for top line duty or able to eat the minutes Letang does? IMO he’s a solid second pair dman.
17 août 2020 à 22 h 32
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Do you not believe the two players I have playing with Sid can score more than 40 goals? Sid made Guentzel and Sheary. Obviously Sheary has been exposed since and Jake has proven he can play but do you think he’s ever sniffing 40 goals again when he’s not playing with 87? I think two first round wingers in their early 20s with Sid is dangerous, not to mention Malkin getting Zucker and Rust as linemates. Kunin gives us another RH shot in the top six. Singing Haula gives us an actual 3rd line C unlike McCann who’s a LW and he’s great at face offs. The blue line is better. Marino will improve and Shattenkirk can score around 40 points playing the kind of minutes Letang logs. Gustafsson and Montour would be a second pair on most teams. Then you get Greiss as a reliable 1B to Jarry. This team isn’t going out in round one


no one does, and Sid didn't make Jake. Jake was a great goal scorer before he ever played with Sid. He lit up the WBS and Nebraska all on his very own. He didn't need anyone to carry him.
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17 août 2020 à 22 h 36
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no one does, and Sid didn't make Jake. Jake was a great goal scorer before he ever played with Sid. He lit up the WBS and Nebraska all on his very own. He didn't need anyone to carry him.


Umm the NHL isn’t college hockey or the AHL. Jake would have never even sniffed 40 if he wasn’t playing with the best player in a generation. Wingers come and go. A small percentage are truly great (Ovie, Kane, Jagr, the Hull’s etc...) Jake is a good winger, probably worth 25-30 goals with a normal top line C.
17 août 2020 à 22 h 40
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Umm the NHL isn’t college hockey or the AHL. Jake would have never even sniffed 40 if he wasn’t playing with the best player in a generation. Wingers come and go. A small percentage are truly great (Ovie, Kane, Jagr, the Hull’s etc...) Jake is a good winger, probably worth 25-30 goals with a normal top line C.


sure sure sure, and Laffy taffy needs people to carry him in the NHL too because the Q isn't the NHL either right.
good luck with that. **** is awful.
17 août 2020 à 22 h 41
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This is exactly what the Pens shouldn’t do
17 août 2020 à 22 h 48
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This is exactly what the Pens shouldn’t do


They are going to explore trading Letang. That’s already being reported by people who know what they’re talking about like Josh Yohe and Rob Rossi: https://theathletic.com/1992907/2020/08/13/inside-the-penguins-collapse-and-the-big-changes-that-still-remain/
17 août 2020 à 22 h 51
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They are going to explore trading Letang. That’s already being reported by people who know what they’re talking about like Josh Yohe and Rob Rossi: https://theathletic.com/1992907/2020/08/13/inside-the-penguins-collapse-and-the-big-changes-that-still-remain/


Every offseason there’s Letang rumours. I don’t buy it till it happens
18 août 2020 à 9 h 50
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CGY has 0 interest in old/slow Letang, only to not protect him for the Seattle Expansion Draft.
Dumb trade was dumb.
 
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