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Créé par: DonkeyLips
Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2020
Publié: 16 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The Pens need changes. The only players that performed remotely close to as well as they should have were Crosby, Marino, and Jarry. There were a few others that played okay (Guentzal, Letang, Zucker), but not to level needed in a playoff series. The rest of the roster was miserable. Malkin was good, not great. The depth forwards provided nothing. The 4th line that was supposed to be one of the best defensive lines in the league was the biggest defensive liability on the team. The actual defense was a mess. Marino played above what anyone could have resonably expected. That is the only bright spot. Letang was good, but like Malkin, not great. Dumoulin left plenty of room for improvement. Pettersson, Schultz, and Johnson were flat out horrible. Schultz was by far the worst of the three. As much as everyone piles on Johnson the reality is that Schultz was probably their worst player in that series.

The penguins need a culture change. Not renewing the contracts of the assistant coaching staff is a start. As far as the players go the first step is letting all of their unrestricted free agents walk. Schultz is bad. Marleau is done. Sheary is inconsequential.
Outside of the goalies, the restricted free agents are also underwhelming. McCann has shown to have the most promise but had a very bad series against Montreal. He is not a core piece and could be used to get a good return. Simon has proven to be effective with Crosby and could be kept for cheap to provide depth and a reliable linemate for Crosby if need be. The rest of the group could be moved on from with ease.
It should be very clear that Matt Murray needs a change of scenery and could bring back a significant return. At his age he is far from washed up. With his experience and accomplishments teams will be willing to pay a real price to acquire his services. Jarry and DeSmith are more than capable of producing a great goalie tandem.
The biggest change needs to come with the core of the team. Crosby is going nowhere. Malkin is also going nowhere. That leaves Letang as the core player to be moved. It will be impossible to replace what he does on the ice, but changes must be made. A combination of Marino and Brodie could replace what Letang brought on the right side. The return for Letang would also be substantial. Domi would allow the pens to get back to the 3 center model they like so much and also bring in some grit they need. While Hornqvist still brings an element the pens need, he is losing a step, and sooner rather than later is going to loose the tenacity that makes him so valuable. Moving his contract would bring back draft picks and open up cap space to sign newly acquired players. Olofsson provides better scoring depth while Montour helps on the back end.

I'm sure I will get plenty of responses from other teams fans how their team will never make those trades. And really none of these trades are likely to happen at all. But all these trades do make some sense for each team.
Domi is due for a big raise. Montreal has a lot of center depth. The could move on from him to add to their d core.
Calgary is most likely going to loose Brodie for nothing this off-season. Here they are taking a risk in Bjugstad but he can stay healthy it is well worth the cost of nothing.
The Nashville trade is the most questionable of them all. They could also use a shake up.
Buffalo is getting a legit number 1 goalie. A young forward with potential and depth on the blue line.
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    16 août 2020 à 16 h 51
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    hard pass on the Letang trade. he is still our best D and while Marino will be a very good D, he will never replace letang.
    16 août 2020 à 16 h 52
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    Sabres aren't trading Oloffson and don't want Murray
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    16 août 2020 à 16 h 52
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    Buf rejects. VO is the best piece by far in that deal.
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    16 août 2020 à 16 h 57
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    Quoting: mhockey91
    hard pass on the Letang trade. he is still our best D and while Marino will be a very good D, he will never replace letang.


    No one will replace Letang. But if this team needs a major change that is the only way to make it happen. The past two post seasons have been a disaster.
    16 août 2020 à 16 h 58
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    Quoting: dzmets
    Sabres aren't trading Oloffson and don't want Murray


    Buffalo needs a goalie. There is no debate in that. They do give up a very good player in this deal. But they are getting back a proven number 1 goalie that can carry a team in the post season
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 0
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    No one will replace Letang. But if this team needs a major change that is the only way to make it happen. The past two post seasons have been a disaster.


    I still think the biggest issue is the 3rd line and bottom pairing. here is a good article I read on addressing everything. Basically, we need our 3rd and 4th line to be able to contribute when our stars are cold. No one mentions the long cold streaks Crosby/malkin had during the 16 and 17 runs because our depth scoring covered for them when they were cold. I would be interested in Domi as a 3C tbh. very reminiscent of the HBK days of having a high octane third line, but not at the cost of Letang. hes too important to our D.


    https://www.pensburgh.com/2020/8/13/21366146/how-much-change-do-the-penguins-need
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 1
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    Quoting: Lsendel3
    Buf rejects. VO is the best piece by far in that deal.


    Gotta give to get. Goalie is the most important position in the game. Buffalo does not have a legit goalie.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 1
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    NSH doesn't want either of those guys.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 5
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    Quoting: Lsendel3
    Buf rejects. VO is the best piece by far in that deal.


    No he very much is not.

    Matt Murray and Jusso Riikola are both better
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 6
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    No from NSH no question. Hornqvist is a cap dump and they arent that good!!
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 10
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    Buffalo needs a goalie. There is no debate in that. They do give up a very good player in this deal. But they are getting back a proven number 1 goalie that can carry a team in the post season


    Like he has the past couple of years no thanks. He has been one of the worst goalies in the NHL 2 of the last 3 years. We are perfectly content with Ullmark as our starter for another 2 years until UPL is ready. We intend on protecting Ullmark in the expansion draft so it makes no sense to give up assets for another goalie just to expose him in the draft next year. The Sabres will either acquire a different UFA backup on a short term deal or they will trade for a backup on an expiring contract or more likely just go forward with Hutton for one more year and hope for a bounce back now that he is healthy
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 11
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    Gotta give to get. Goalie is the most important position in the game. Buffalo does not have a legit goalie.


    .899 and .907 in 2 of the last 3 years. When he’s on, he’s a legit #1. When he’s off, which has been more then not lately he’s been off.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 14
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    Buffalo needs a goalie. There is no debate in that. They do give up a very good player in this deal. But they are getting back a proven number 1 goalie that can carry a team in the post season


    Our goalie coach won't be working with Murray, so Buffalo will definitely not trade for him. Plus Olofsson is not trade for such a package, two good reasons why Buffalo is declines.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 14
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    Buffalo declines
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 14
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    No he very much is not.

    Matt Murray and Jusso Riikola are both better


    Yeah ok. A guy who hasn’t even been a regular and a sub 900 goalie this year is better then a 20 goal/42 points in 54 games in his rookie season. If you say so.
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 17
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    Buffalo needs a goalie. There is no debate in that. They do give up a very good player in this deal. But they are getting back a proven number 1 goalie that can carry a team in the post season


    We are fine with Ullmark, paying the big price (Massive overpay) for Murray to lose one of them in 8 months in the Seattle Draft is simply stupid. We also have two really goalie prospects in Luukkonnen and Portillo. The real need of the sabres is at least two more top 6 forward, your trade make us take a huge step back with another hole to fill in our top 6.
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 17
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    Yeah ok. A guy who hasn’t even been a regular and a sub 900 goalie this year is better then a 20 goal/42 points in 54 games in his rookie season. If you say so.


    Riikola is an amazing shut down defenseman, the only reason he isnt playing is because it would look bad on JR for signing Jack Johnson and then scratching him.

    Matt Murray was the starting goalie for 2 cup winning teams over Hall Of Famer Marc-Andre Fleury.

    Just because he had a bad year, doesnt make him a bad player. Hes still pretty young.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 20
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    Riikola is an amazing shut down defenseman, the only reason he isnt playing is because it would look bad on JR for signing Jack Johnson and then scratching him.

    Matt Murray was the starting goalie for 2 cup winning teams over Hall Of Famer Marc-Andre Fleury.

    Just because he had a bad year, doesnt make him a bad player. Hes still pretty young.


    He’s had 2 bad years in the past 3. Or at least one bad and one very average. And that’s a dumb reason to scratch a young guy (he’s 26, gonna be 27 this upcoming season). Also his first year he got caved in possessionwise when he got defensive starts.. sorry VO is better then both. And not only that, goal starved Buf isn’t trading a guy they groomed for 6 years and exceeded expectations his rookie year barring overpayment. And this ain’t it
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 21
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    Riikola is an amazing shut down defenseman, the only reason he isnt playing is because it would look bad on JR for signing Jack Johnson and then scratching him.

    Matt Murray was the starting goalie for 2 cup winning teams over Hall Of Famer Marc-Andre Fleury.

    Just because he had a bad year, doesnt make him a bad player. Hes still pretty young.

    Either way this trade won’t happen Buffalo isn’t going to trade one of their few players that can realistically score on a given night.
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 22
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    Weber Letang Petry lmao not a chance MTL accept
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    16 août 2020 à 17 h 29
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    No one will replace Letang. But if this team needs a major change that is the only way to make it happen. The past two post seasons have been a disaster.


    The 3rd pairing gave up like 60% of the goals during the MTL series. The problem was not Letang.

    That same pairing also hamstrung the 2nd line as idiot Sullivan kept putting them out there with Malkin's group. Which was single handed the dumbest decision of the whole series next to his personnel decisions which were frankly atrocious.

    The coach needs to go. That's the first step toward fixing this team. Thing is if they don't move him fast, he'll out last the window. And this team will never win again.
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 29
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    this is rough
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 36
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    Quoting: dzmets
    Like he has the past couple of years no thanks. He has been one of the worst goalies in the NHL 2 of the last 3 years. We are perfectly content with Ullmark as our starter for another 2 years until UPL is ready. We intend on protecting Ullmark in the expansion draft so it makes no sense to give up assets for another goalie just to expose him in the draft next year. The Sabres will either acquire a different UFA backup on a short term deal or they will trade for a backup on an expiring contract or more likely just go forward with Hutton for one more year and hope for a bounce back now that he is healthy


    Good luck with that.
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    Quoting: SalamiCheese
    Our goalie coach won't be working with Murray, so Buffalo will definitely not trade for him. Plus Olofsson is not trade for such a package, two good reasons why Buffalo is declines.


    English your first language?
    16 août 2020 à 17 h 41
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    Quoting: DonkeyLips
    Good luck with that.


    I am as happier with any of those options than I would be with acquiring Murray
     
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