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Créé par: math731
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 août 2020
Publié: 14 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
DET trade down to draft Askarov and get another mid first. MTL draft Perfetti or trade up...
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MTL
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  2. Neal, James
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
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  2. Tatar, Tomas (2 000 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
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  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
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MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DET)
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
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14 août 2020 à 18 h 54
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11 & 16 for 4? How about Detroit sends you Glendening for Kotka?
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14 août 2020 à 18 h 56
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Seems like a piss poor trade for Edmonton
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14 août 2020 à 18 h 58
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Easy pass for Detroit, they wouldn't trade down for Askarov. If they want him they'll try and package something to move up from 32
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14 août 2020 à 18 h 59
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Quoting: dtd_tank
11 & 16 for 4? How about Detroit sends you Glendening for Kotka?


Just want to remind you that you made a post where you traded the 15th pick, a second and a B prospect for 6 OA... What about I trade you Byron for Mantha then.

In all seriousness, this trade happens if Yzerman wants Askarov. Youd be getting one of Jarvis, Quinn, Schneider or Amirov as well. Its a great offer
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 0
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Easy pass for Detroit, they wouldn't trade down for Askarov. If they want him they'll try and package something to move up from 32

What would you give? Tbh I doubt you could get another top 12 pick without hurting your team
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 3
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Edm says no
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 5
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Seems like a piss poor trade for Edmonton


just awful
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 7
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just awful


Wut? Neal is one of the worst contract in the league sonhes definitely worth the first alone. Then you have Tatar retained (plus and extension) and Poehling for Broberg (since this team is already deep on defense)
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 10
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Wut? Neal is one of the worst contract in the league sonhes definitely worth the first alone. Then you have Tatar retained (plus and extension) and Poehling for Broberg (since this team is already deep on defense)


Neal contract dump isnt worth 14OA in a deep draft to dump. I take it back that its an "awful trade", but Edmonton still says no.
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 11
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Quoting: dtd_tank
11 & 16 for 4? How about Detroit sends you Glendening for Kotka?


Draft pick value charting is there. But yeah, doesn't look pretty.

4th overall - 783

11th overall - 535
16th overall - 413

IF Detroit were thinking of draft Askarov, its the right move. Otherwise they get the player they could have had at 11 and then don't get to add a second asset.


More digestible, trade back to 7 and pick up 18 from the Devils (IF they really want Drysdale or Sanderson, they should...). Then package 18 with a couple of your 2nd round picks (ex. 18+45+58+63) to a rebuilding team Minnie (?) for 9th overall or Nashville (?) for 11th overall.

7th Overall - Holtz, Sanderson, Quinn, Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond (some of these will still be available.)
9th Overall - Askarov

Of course, Yzerman would have to set a lot up for this to happen, but it sure would be a fun change at the draft.
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 12
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Yah that’s bad for Edmonton. We pass!
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 29
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Neal's contract isn't too bad. He was on pace for 20 goals this season. Definitely overpaid but not worth that much
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 30
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Neal's contract isn't too bad. He was on pace for 20 goals this season. Definitely overpaid but not worth that much


Quoting: mhockey91
Neal contract dump isnt worth 14OA in a deep draft to dump. I take it back that its an "awful trade", but Edmonton still says no.


We have enough cap space to take on Russell as well. Thatd give you 4 more millions to sign whoever you feel like signing
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14 août 2020 à 19 h 41
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Did Kotkaniemi just evaporate?
14 août 2020 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Draft pick value charting is there. But yeah, doesn't look pretty.

4th overall - 783

11th overall - 535
16th overall - 413

IF Detroit were thinking of draft Askarov, its the right move. Otherwise they get the player they could have had at 11 and then don't get to add a second asset.


More digestible, trade back to 7 and pick up 18 from the Devils (IF they really want Drysdale or Sanderson, they should...). Then package 18 with a couple of your 2nd round picks (ex. 18+45+58+63) to a rebuilding team Minnie (?) for 9th overall or Nashville (?) for 11th overall.

7th Overall - Holtz, Sanderson, Quinn, Lundell, Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond (some of these will still be available.)
9th Overall - Askarov

Of course, Yzerman would have to set a lot up for this to happen, but it sure would be a fun change at the draft.


You guys do know that chart is just an estimate and not a very accurate one at that.
14 août 2020 à 19 h 47
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Did Kotkaniemi just evaporate?


Indidnt made the lines. Just wanted to see the values.
14 août 2020 à 20 h 23
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That oilers trade can’t happen. I get Neal is over paid but it’s really not that bad of a contract.... keep in mind he’s still a reliable 20 goal scorer which if wanna compare contracts has Drouin passed 20 goals once for habs? Just because he’s been playing lower in the line up let’s not pretend he’s not capable of contributing. If he’s able to play a significant role on the best pp in the league can’t argue struggling pp teams wouldn’t be interested. This negative outlook on Neal really isn’t justifiable. It’s a tough contract but a good player
14 août 2020 à 20 h 25
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That oilers trade can’t happen. I get Neal is over paid but it’s really not that bad of a contract.... keep in mind he’s still a reliable 20 goal scorer which if wanna compare contracts has Drouin passed 20 goals once for habs? Just because he’s been playing lower in the line up let’s not pretend he’s not capable of contributing. If he’s able to play a significant role on the best pp in the league can’t argue struggling pp teams wouldn’t be interested. This negative outlook on Neal really isn’t justifiable. It’s a tough contract but a good player

But you did traded him for Lucic (whis well known to be one of the worst deal in the league)... That must mean Neal have a somewhat big negative value on the market (similar to Lucics)
14 août 2020 à 20 h 34
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But you did traded him for Lucic (whis well known to be one of the worst deal in the league)... That must mean Neal have a somewhat big negative value on the market (similar to Lucics)


Ya when Neal was only one year into his deal and had a horrible run in Calgary then came to Edmonton and I thought bounced back excellent. Getting hurt really stunted his production. At one point he was on pace for 30 goals. His contract isn’t desirable but as long as he remains an effective player it’s not worth paying to remove.
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14 août 2020 à 20 h 43
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Ya when Neal was only one year into his deal and had a horrible run in Calgary then came to Edmonton and I thought bounced back excellent. Getting hurt really stunted his production. At one point he was on pace for 30 goals. His contract isn’t desirable but as long as he remains an effective player it’s not worth paying to remove.


Fair enough
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14 août 2020 à 22 h 1
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In toye scenario Askarov will be available at 11, believe he is gone in tip 10.
14 août 2020 à 22 h 13
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In toye scenario Askarov will be available at 11, believe he is gone in tip 10.


BUF and MIN are taking Cs (Rossi or Perfetti to BUF and Lundell for MIN), WPG have no interrest in a goalie. NJ fans keep telling theyre good witj Blackwood and that theyll take Holtz. ANA is set in nets and OTT have got plenty of G prospects. He will be available at 11
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14 août 2020 à 23 h 52
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Quoting: aedoran
You guys do know that chart is just an estimate and not a very accurate one at that.


Yeah, and yet, the GMs do have a chart similar to this on the draft floor. Watch the behind the scenes of the Canadiens at the draft, I think Bergevin references it at some point.
15 août 2020 à 6 h 17
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Yeah, and yet, the GMs do have a chart similar to this on the draft floor. Watch the behind the scenes of the Canadiens at the draft, I think Bergevin references it at some point.


Ok so they have one you haven't said any thing that refutes my claim. Would you like to try again?
 
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