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Créé par: ecupirate07
Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2020
Publié: 14 août 2020
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Palmieri comes with a 5 x 6.5 million extension.
Expansion draft is tough but this team is great.
Ultimate goal would be to find a taker for Gardiner. If we could find a deal around Gardiner and McGinn for Miller, would they do it? If not, find any taker would be great. Keep TVR as the 6th defender or find another RHD.

Everyone probably says no but, if Toronto fans can dream about Pesce with 3000 lineups a day so can I.
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      14 août 2020 à 11 h 8
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      Not sure if you are making this team better
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 9
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      That Winnipeg trade... OOF. Hamilton could return Laine and Connor straight up. Nino you can get a good pick for. This is a major step backwards.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 11
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      That Winnipeg trade... OOF. Hamilton could return Laine and Connor straight up. Nino you can get a good pick for. This is a major step backwards.


      Laine and Connor. No way.

      What do you define as a good pick? If you are talking 4th rounder as good, then maybe.
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      14 août 2020 à 11 h 13
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      Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
      Not sure if you are making this team better


      Im pretty Bullish on what Cotton will bring next year. Probably being too optimistic there. Dougie provides another element but the ability to add Ehlers on a long and sweet deal is very tempting. Also, the savings in cap long term to get a top 10 goalie add another element to the team.

      Bean is not going to step in and be Dougie but he will add offense to the back end.

      It isnt perfect but the defense is still strong (stronger if Gardiner can be moved) and we added two top 6 forwards to really add the depth with lack against Boston right now.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 13
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      Laine and Connor. No way.

      What do you define as a good pick? If you are talking 4th rounder as good, then maybe.


      Hamilton is the best defender in the world right now. EASILY Connor and Laine for Dougie (provided he comes with an extension).

      I was thinking a 3rd and 5th, still has 60 point upside and still has one of the best defensive games in hockey.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 19
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Hamilton is the best defender in the world right now. EASILY Connor and Laine for Dougie (provided he comes with an extension).

      I was thinking a 3rd and 5th, still has 60 point upside and still has one of the best defensive games in hockey.


      In the world, nah. Top 7-10 sure. Hedman and a couple of others are ahead of him. Jones from Columbus probably sneaks in there too. I dont see teams giving up a 3rd for Nino in flat cap times. We might be able to squeeze Florida for a 3rd if they werent gunning for cutting salary next season. The pick or prospect that goes with Ehlers wasnt intended to be a throw away. I was looking at it as, what would be offered and where do the Jets value Hamilton.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 24
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      That Jordan Staal contract is going to bite you in the ass soon Carolina!
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 26
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      In the world, nah. Top 7-10 sure. Hedman and a couple of others are ahead of him. Jones from Columbus probably sneaks in there too. I dont see teams giving up a 3rd for Nino in flat cap times. We might be able to squeeze Florida for a 3rd if they werent gunning for cutting salary next season. The pick or prospect that goes with Ehlers wasnt intended to be a throw away. I was looking at it as, what would be offered and where do the Jets value Hamilton.


      Hamilton is as good offensively but better defensively than:
      Josi
      Carlson
      Karlsson
      Burns
      Rielly
      OEL
      He's as good defensively, but better offensively than:
      Parayko
      Pietrangelo
      Hedman

      Who's better? Hamilton is in a different class right now. He's far and away the most dominant and best defender in the world. This is not enough for him. Ehlers is a hell of a player, but he's not enough even with a 1st or someone like Hienola for Dougie Hamilton
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 27
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      That Jordan Staal contract is going to bite you in the ass soon Carolina!


      Not really, Staal's fine. He's less overpaid than someone like Marner is.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 29
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      Quoting: spencer
      That Jordan Staal contract is going to bite you in the ass soon Carolina!


      Why do you believe that? We have 3 years left. Would it be nice if he was paid around 4 million? sure. But 6 isnt going to kill us. We have Necas on 2 more years of ELC, Suzuki for 3 more years, probably 4 because it will slide one more year. Rees, Bokk, Keane, our 13th OA pick, Murray, et al will be on the roster over the next 3 years to keep the costs down. Unless any of the players outside of Necas just produce well more than intended and require a huge extension, I dont see anywhere over the next 3 years that it hurts us or prevents us from doing what we need.
      14 août 2020 à 11 h 36
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Hamilton is the best defender in the world right now. EASILY Connor and Laine for Dougie (provided he comes with an extension).

      I was thinking a 3rd and 5th, still has 60 point upside and still has one of the best defensive games in hockey.


      HAHAHAHA the most bias fan on this site strickes again! thanks for the laugh
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      14 août 2020 à 11 h 46
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      It would depend on how much Hamilton's extension is. Likely he would be too expensive for the Jets to consider
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      14 août 2020 à 11 h 56
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      Quoting: Caniac2000
      Hamilton is as good offensively but better defensively than:
      Josi
      Carlson
      Karlsson
      Burns
      Rielly
      OEL
      He's as good defensively, but better offensively than:
      Parayko
      Pietrangelo
      Hedman

      Who's better? Hamilton is in a different class right now. He's far and away the most dominant and best defender in the world. This is not enough for him. Ehlers is a hell of a player, but he's not enough even with a 1st or someone like Hienola for Dougie Hamilton


      I think Dougie is in the top 5, and the stats and analytics back that up. I would still put Josi and Hedman ahead of him for sure. Then he is in the mix with Pietrangelo and Carlson to round out the top 5.
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 8
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      Quoting: Subbanator7667
      HAHAHAHA the most bias fan on this site strickes again! thanks for the laugh


      says the guy who has "Subban" in his name, gtfo hypocrite
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 9
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      I think Dougie is in the top 5, and the stats and analytics back that up. I would still put Josi and Hedman ahead of him for sure. Then he is in the mix with Pietrangelo and Carlson to round out the top 5.


      Josi is not a defenceman. He's a forward on the blueline. His defensive numbers are horrific.
      Carlson is reknowned for his defensive errors. That's a joke

      Pietrangelo isn't as good offensively.

      Hedman is the only one who you can make a case for, and it's still not close. Hamilton is easily the best defender in hockey
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 10
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      HAHAHAHA the most bias fan on this site strickes again! thanks for the laugh


      LOL, "Subban" get lost. Name me someone better, and I will provide you with a statistical argument.
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 12
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      says the guy who has "Subban" in his name, gtfo hypocrite


      What's a fun name have to do with my opinions? Of which I have never stated that Subban is the best player.

      Call me a hypocrite without ever actually interacting with me on this site and now throw yourself out there against me when I ridicule a guy who is literally wide spread agreed upon by the regulars of this site as a biased fan.

      I'd suggest you know what you're talking about before you try to call someone out
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 16
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      LOL, "Subban" get lost. Name me someone better, and I will provide you with a statistical argument.


      Ehy so you can cherry pick stats that favor your arguement? It's the same as you arguing that Aho is better then Eichle or that Slavin is better then everyone other then Hamilton apparently who you now say is the best.

      Your opinions are a joke on here because you have severally showed your bias towards Carolina being the end all be all of forwards and defenceman and even praise your goalie tandem as the best in the league.

      You're the most bias person on this site, just wear that crown with dignity
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 19
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      Ehy so you can cherry pick stats that favor your arguement? It's the same as you arguing that Aho is better then Eichle or that Slavin is better then everyone other then Hamilton apparently who you now say is the best.

      Your opinions are a joke on here because you have severally showed your bias towards Carolina being the end all be all of forwards and defenceman and even praise your goalie tandem as the best in the league.

      You're the most bias person on this site, just wear that crown with dignity


      Nope, I can use all stats to back it up. Give me a name, and I'll prove you wrong. Until you give me a name, I cannot prove you wrong!
      14 août 2020 à 12 h 21
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      Nope, I can use all stats to back it up. Give me a name, and I'll prove you wrong. Until you give me a name, I cannot prove you wrong!


      Think you're missing the point I'm trying to make......you are a joke, who isn't worth arguing with.

      Now that my point is made, have a good day
      14 août 2020 à 13 h 57
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      Yeah i love Ehlers but this is an easy yes from WPG
      14 août 2020 à 14 h 36
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      Yeah i love Ehlers but this is an easy yes from WPG


      what add on do you suggest / offer in the deal?
      14 août 2020 à 15 h 37
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      what add on do you suggest / offer in the deal?


      I’m not to be sure to be honest, but I wouldn’t be suprised if we had to give you our #10 pick this year or our best prospect in Heinola at least
       
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