not sure poeling is the prospect that bridges the difference here

From Detroit's perspective, I would have a very hard time with this if it were just #4oa for #10 + #16 overall. I definitely say no to this if we're sending a 2nd also.

I was thinking the same. Probably JK would

that'd certainly be closer. Poehling after his struggles in the NHL/AHL this year doesn't hold a ton of value.

What? Kotkaniemi plus 2 is way more than 1

I think it's a good try. The most lopsided trades though are
1) Edm. Broberg is a great prospect. It would take Tatar + a 1st rounder to get him.
2) Det. The top 5 picks in this draft are well regarded. Trading 10 + 16 alone may not be anough for 4th, let alone another 2nd rounder.
3) NYR. If I'm the GM for NYR, I'd be looking to rob the team who wants the 1st overall. I'd replace Poehling for Caufield in this trade.

you did all this and. you didnt move Suzuki, Romanov, or Caulfield....hate to break it to ya but you wont have the majority of those guys to get this job done

no. no other 1st. 2nd overall plus JK

Lol, KK and Byfield for Laf, could you imagine the madness it would take to accept that trade on MTL end. KK and Suzuki are our best players this offseason, theres no way. 2nd OA, 2021 first and a first pick in 2017 is enough

Byfield as a potential star 6’4 centre plus kk. No one would ever do that

KK himself will probably be our number one center. You dont trade 2 of those for a winger. Plus, Byfields potential is even greater than Laf

A little deeper analysis...

In:
Perreault
WSH 2nd
STL 2nd
NYR 1st
Russell

Out:
Domi
2020 MTL 1st
2021 MTL 1st
Tatar
Poehling

So let's break that down to Tatar for Perreault + 2 2nds. Then you're saying you send Domi + 2 1sts + Poehling for Russell + Lafreniere.

I'm pretty sure that's not gonna work. But it's clever

Well, thats basically 5 first rounders (assuming the value of Tatar and Domi) and 9 millions in cap dump for a single player... Would you os a player over 10,5 millions. No because it cost 4 first and its considered too much. Using your deep analysis, were giving 5 first for a player

I like Tatar, but not enough to give up Broberg. I'm not sure Edmonton has ever had the kind of blue line potential it has now, and they really can't be diminishing the top end of that prospect pool.

I mean, with Nurse, Klefbom, Bear (who looked really great by the way), Bouchard, Larsson, Samu and Jones, using a guy like Broberg to upgrade your top 6 might be wise. You guys need O more than D. And youd still have money to sign a guy like Hoffman or Dadonov

I doubt we'll see Hoffman or Dadonov in Oiler silks, off-season signings like that just don't fit with Holland's approach to building a roster.

Broberg and Bouchard, appear to be the future 1 & 2 and Bear is already a top 4 NHL d-man, I don't see Ken Holland trading any of those three. Klefbom is the current #1, so I don't see him moving this year or next. Trading Samorukov is unlikely to net the kind of return the Oilers need in order to improve immediately. Of the Oilers you identified, I think Larsson is the most likely to be traded, but I would be only mildly surprised if Nurse was moved in a block-buster.

A couple names that haven't been mentioned are Kris Russell and Matt Benning. Russell's $4M cap hit and M-NTC/NMC are a bit of a problem. I believe that for next season he has already been surpassed on the depth chart by Caleb Jones. Holland would like to keep William Lagesson because he is a relatively inexpensive NHL-ready LHD who is bigger, more physical, a better skater and a better passer than Russell, but he needs a qualifying offer and will no longer be waiver exempt next season. Matt Benning requires a qualifying offer as well. His analytics are outstanding, as long as he is playing in a 5-6 d-man role. However, he must be qualified with a minimum offer of $2,000,000, which in this day and age is a bit rich for a bottom pair d-man, and he takes up a roster spot that could be used to ease Bouchard into the NHL. In order for Edmonton to keep Lagesson, one of Russell or Benning has to go. Neither is going to fetch a top-six forward, but a legitimate 3C is possible, and opening a spot for Lagesson adds insurance should Seattle grab Jones in the expansion draft.

The rational for the Detroit is solid but it only works with Yzerman wants Askarov. I really hope Yzerman doesn't move back to draft Askarov.

These comments are kind of the point; nothing you want to pay will be enough for the Rangers to actually want to do it. Brian Burke was interviewed in an article for The Athletic and said there's always lots of offers for top picks and all of them are garbage. And that seeing the few top-pick trades that HAVE happened, teams feel they can and should push the price even higher.

The Rangers have every right to demand one of KK, Caufield, Suzuki because they need to protect themselves against the risk. Doing it for a bottom 6 F and a 1st after their rebuild is supposed to be done doesn't protect them from the risk of passing on the better prospetc.

And the Habs have every right to say that's stupid and they won't do that. They're not going to pay more than what they think is fair.