I would keep the 1st and use demko since markstrom will have the starting spot for a while

Yeah but Demko isn't worth 2 cap dumps.

Baertschi isnt a cap dump and vancouver can still afford him

He is, if you need cap. He played most of the year in the AHL.

Again Teams with cap out weight teams with out cap. Why does everyone think teams like Detroit, Ottawa, New Jersey are going to give it away for nothing?

Cost the Leafs a 1st round pick to unload Marleau's $6.25M for 1 season. You want Detroit to take $9.37M for 1 season and then $6M the next? .. cost a lot more than that. I'd probably start with the 1st, Demko, and a mediocre prospect. See if that would entice them. But they're not just gonna do you a favour cause your GM signs the worst free agent contracts of anyone.

He played 6 games in Vancouver and then got buried, passing through waivers multiple times Detroit could have had him for next to nothing.

Past 3 years before this he was .5 PPG or better and passable defensively, green just doesn't like him

How do you explain him clearing waivers multiple times? Every team could’ve had him free but decided not to, therefore, negative value. Eriksson is 6M x 2 years which should net a first rounder at minimum based on Marleau and Backes as a baseline. Adding Baertschi is just more assets it will cost.

hes overpaid not a cap dump

Not had to do when you only play a handful of games each season. A player averaging .5 ppg you'd think he'd get more ice time. He has never played 70 games in one season.

That’s pretty much the definition of a cap dump (overpaid, 1 way deal, can’t make the club regularly). He isn’t a regular on the Canucks which although are a good team aren’t a true contender and passed through waivers multiple times. If you don’t view him as a dump then you’d have no objection of removing him from the deal and dealing him elsewhere.

Being overpaid and not wanting him on your cap because you need it to spend elsewhere or to sign other players is the definition of a cap dump.

If a player makes more money against the cap and the player is not good anymore or the cap is is lowered or and you need to shed cap to make the cap work are cap dumps.

If a player is good but you need the cap to keep younger players, is still a cap dump but you can expect something or not to get robbed, in this case the former describes Sven not the latter.

Sven is definitely still good

I dont

Agree to disagree

for the same reason you think the canucks are just gonna give away our assets.we have options we dont need to sell the farm.watch jim b weave his magic.

Just like you want Yzerman to take on Sven for free? Cap space is an asset. Good luck with that though.

not sure what you are talking about taking sven for free( not sure i said that)please dont twist my words. you are right cap space is an asset.we will not sell the farm though we have invested in our rebuild were not gonna just give away players or picks in trades that wont benifit the team going forward.

You literally said, “why would Vancouver give assets away” like he had positive value which is incorrect at the current time hence going through waivers multiple times. That’s not twisting your words. If you want to keep Eriksson + Sven then power to you but if you want that cap space it will cost players or prospects. I’m not saying it will cost a 1st or something outlandish to rid yourself of Sven so I’m not sure where you are getting “selling the farm” unless your imply GMJB can rid himself of Eriksson + Sven for future conditions or a late round pick.

i am simply saying that jim has some tough choices to make.we can trade sven or louie without selling the farm benning has done a good job of collecting assets hes not gonna just give away assets to get rid of louie or sven he has other trade options IN MY OPINION.

Can you hypothesize one of these options? Like I said he isn’t going to have to sell the farm for Sven but when you’re talking 9.5M + 6M then owners/GMs are looking to be compensated fairly and usually those teams are looking at futures.

so detroit has several bad contracts (cap dumps ) sooo the same applys i guess.your gonna have a hard time trading some of your 30 plus year old players with iffy contracts. just saying.

Detroit is a rebuild (39 points last year). You could add McDavid to this roster and we still don’t sniff the playoffs. We also are in a great cap position for the next few years. So the same doesn’t apply to Detroit as we don’t have to sign EP or Hughes next season for substantial raises.

so my point/opinion is detroit is in the same spot trying to get rid of bad contracts your not gonna keep some of the old timers in your rebuild. so you too will have to give up assets to get rid of some anchor contracts like neilsen filppula and abdelcader for example.so again in my opinion asset management is important and jim will do us proud without selling the farm.we have approx 19 million coming off the books next year more than enough to sign quinn and peety.

No, Detroit will just ride those bad contracts out. There would be no point to trading them away as we have around ~40M in cap space to sign Mantha, Bertuzzi, Fabbri and then Hronek the following year.

That 19M includes Markstrom, Tanev, Toffoli. Do you plan on just running an unproven goalie in Demko? Who replaces Tanev’s and Toffoli’s minutes?