I am not sure its the right move but if you are paying a goalie 5 million, he should steal a game in the playoffs once or twice a round and he hasn't done that. Freddie isn't deserving of all the blame but he isn't without blame. Game 1 was on him and game 5's second goal was a back breaker, brutal goal.

I don't like it for Pittsburgh...They don't have the cap space to bring Freddy in to be a tandem with Jarry. They're much better off moving Murray for picks or prospects (of which, they have very few), and running with Jarry/DeSmith next year.

Because kypreos is full of it

Think I spent a large part of my day yesterday trying to talk leaf fans off the ledge. Personally I think if they make that move it’s suicide and only way I see it working requires a significant upgrade to the D which if willing to do wouldn’t it be nice to have Freddy behind it instead. I just dont understand it. Replacing Freddy for the sake of it and expecting better results from a worse goalie ( no offence to pens or Murray but cmon) is pure insanity in my opinion. I understand people’s concerns he’s supposedly let them down in crucial games however need to respect that he will get them to those games idk about Murray doing that.

Game 1 is Freddys fault where the Leafs got shutout? And game 5 wasnt the best goal ever but that chance shouldn't have happened, he played well overall

To be fair it doesn't seem like freddy is the answer in net. Maybe getting Murray with some championship experience helps free cap and shake things up

No, you’re not crazy. Personally, I love Andersen as our goalie.

Well enough to not lose but not well enough to win. Game 1 was a softy. Korpisalo didn't let in any softies that was the difference.

Agreed. Can’t win games when you get shutout.

That championship experience sure has helped him the last couple years

Kypreos literally said that he made it up, but Leafs fans ...

There's no wieght to Freddie being better, he's got 1 year left and then will be priced at 7+ minimum (Leafs can not afford him) the Defense needs help regardless of who's in net - Murray's age and next contract fits the Leafs group and Cap structure in its current state - niether side really likes it much but unfortunately it makes a whole lot of sense

Except that Murray isnt good

This site sometimes spends too much focus on salaries and term and not enough focus on player contribution. I don’t mean to discredit Murray hes a fine goalie but Freddy is a pretty darn good goalie and I’m not even a leafs fan. Reality need to consider leafs weren’t exactly a top seed going into playoffs hence playing in qualifing round can they actually afford to consider leaking more goals against?

Freddie is a Darn good goalie - maybe this site does spend too much time and energy on salary and term but both play a very big part in what the Leafs options are - look at this way option 1: keep Freddie - probably make the playoffs anything beyond that is a bonus - he's offered 8 x 7 and walks , Leafs have Campbell now and are left to aquire a goalie or sign another starter.
2: complete this trade a starter for a younger starter who they can likely afford and sign at 5 x 5 - they likely make the playoffs and anything beyond that is a bonus

Which option is the smarter long term option

Both Goalies numbers are pretty much identical - Murray had a rough year but so did Freddie

A little truth about CBJ goalies : Bobrovsky was a Vezina goalie in CBJ goes to Florida on a massive deal and now he's a cap dump - Korpisela played very well had a few game savers - truth is the Defensive structure the Jackets play won that series not Korpisela

Except that andresen has had one season under a 910 ever (this year at 909) and murray has 2 in the last 3 (907 and an 899 this year) murray looks every bit a significant downgrade

Yea cuz the leafs are doing great as is right?

They've won as many championships as murray has the last 3 years and they dont even have thar championship experience!

Anderson is going to be moved as his history of letting in a soft goal in a big game has caught up to him and Leafs can not afford to resign him as a UFA. I think Matt Murray who has history with Dubas is on way to Leafs and his contract will allow cap savings to be used on upgrading a defenseman. Think there will be more pieces of players added to this trade but it is going to happen.

I agree, this was Andersen’s first really bad year with Toronto, while Murray has seriously struggled since the last Cup win. Murray has a higher ceiling, but after the last three years I’m not convinced he’s going to reach it again, especially not in Toronto. Better off holding onto and maybe even extending Freddy if you’ve got the right deal. The Muzzin extension was a reasonable deal for a guy entering his 30s, maybe they could try their luck again with Andersen if he justifies it with a good 20-21

But 2 less overall..... and MANY less rounds lmao

I thinm you're missing the point juuuuuust a little

I understand your logic on it but preformance difference between the two could cost you making a playoff spot so in my opinion you go with what gives you the best chance next year and that’s a problem can be resolved at a later time. I’m not actually certain he will be offered the type of contract your suspecting in the middle of a flat cap era. Who will need a goalie that is competitive with that much cap space. He will be in for a raise but I think it’s a lot more modest of one than might be thinking