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13 août 2020 à 2 h 11
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Ducks accept. But take out Kesler. No need to have him in the package
13 août 2020 à 2 h 12
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Why is the trend Ekblad lol
13 août 2020 à 2 h 12
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CBJ trade is fine imo

FLA trade needs work. FLA looks to strengthen their defense, not weaken it.

ANA trade is pretty bad for the Leafs imo. Rakell's a step down from Nylander, Larsson would have hard time fitting your lineup as it is and Kesler's just dead money by this point. TOR as a "contender" don't really benefit from acquiring picks.

Same goes for OTT and NJ trades. I think you could garner more value by trading Kappy, Dermott, Mikheyev and Kerfoot seperately.
13 août 2020 à 2 h 22
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Stop thinking teams will trade you bona fide #1 RHD for 3rd liners, or even 2nd liners. Literally just stop. Matthews or Marner are going the other way or there isn't a discussion. Your 4th best forward isn't good enough to land a #1 RHD, and your what, 8th best forward? Definitely isn't

Ottawa doesn't like giving up #33 but the value there is unreal so they take it and run.

NJD is fleecing Toronto there lol

CBJ trade is fine, Anaheim trade doesn't make much sense for the Leafs at all, like I don't know what the motivation is for this deal other than not liking Nylander for some reason??
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13 août 2020 à 2 h 35
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Why is the trend Ekblad lol


Because Brett Pesce and Josh Manson trades have been beaten to death the past few days?
13 août 2020 à 2 h 40
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Because Brett Pesce and Josh Manson trades have been beaten to death the past few days?


Days? These have been going on for YEARS
13 août 2020 à 3 h 25
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Quoting: Wqrrior
Why is the trend Ekblad lol


Owner wants to cut cap, and if the Panthers can get a cheap yet effective defense man ekblad could go. Now sandin for ekblad is a no as I can't see the Panthers accepting that. Rielly for ekblad can work as both have a similar playstyle and Panthers need a strong top LD
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13 août 2020 à 7 h 33
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That's a BAD deal for CBJ.

The NJD trade might be a slight overpay by Toronto but Foote is very much the kind of player Toronto should be looking to find. He's the perfect spice to add to a Tavares-Marner or Matthews-Nylander line.
13 août 2020 à 7 h 59
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Quoting: Alfie11
Stop thinking teams will trade you bona fide #1 RHD for 3rd liners, or even 2nd liners. Literally just stop. Matthews or Marner are going the other way or there isn't a discussion. Your 4th best forward isn't good enough to land a #1 RHD, and your what, 8th best forward? Definitely isn't

Ottawa doesn't like giving up #33 but the value there is unreal so they take it and run.

NJD is fleecing Toronto there lol

CBJ trade is fine, Anaheim trade doesn't make much sense for the Leafs at all, like I don't know what the motivation is for this deal other than not liking Nylander for some reason??


Cap space?
13 août 2020 à 8 h 9
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Ekblad is going to cost at least Nylander maybe +
13 août 2020 à 8 h 50
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Quoting: HadesOfSoCal
Ducks accept. But take out Kesler. No need to have him in the package


Nice, but moving Nylander is contingent on getting the FLA trade done and Kesler is required as an LTIR play.
13 août 2020 à 9 h 4
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CBJ trade is fine imo

FLA trade needs work. FLA looks to strengthen their defense, not weaken it.

ANA trade is pretty bad for the Leafs imo. Rakell's a step down from Nylander, Larsson would have hard time fitting your lineup as it is and Kesler's just dead money by this point. TOR as a "contender" don't really benefit from acquiring picks.

Same goes for OTT and NJ trades. I think you could garner more value by trading Kappy, Dermott, Mikheyev and Kerfoot seperately.


FLA, is also looking to free up about $10m in payroll per their owner apparently. Getting Sandin, with a promising future, on an entry level deal plus cheaper help on the wing if/when Hoffman walks.

ANA deal, didn't want to move Nylander but had to after the FLA deal. Rakell is a cheaper Top 6 fwd to fill in the space left by Nylander. Larsson fills the void left by Sandin as a young upcoming LD and is on a cost effective deal. Kesler is simply a LTIR play, to allow Leafs to go over cap and bury the contract since they can afford it. I disagree, contenders do benefit from picks as it's currency for other deals or helps stock the cupboards.

OTT and NJ trades, Gaborik is another LTIR play and picks/prospects are future currency and/or development, see above, while freeing up current cap space.
13 août 2020 à 9 h 13
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Quoting: Alfie11
Stop thinking teams will trade you bona fide #1 RHD for 3rd liners, or even 2nd liners. Literally just stop. Matthews or Marner are going the other way or there isn't a discussion. Your 4th best forward isn't good enough to land a #1 RHD, and your what, 8th best forward? Definitely isn't

Ottawa doesn't like giving up #33 but the value there is unreal so they take it and run.

NJD is fleecing Toronto there lol

CBJ trade is fine, Anaheim trade doesn't make much sense for the Leafs at all, like I don't know what the motivation is for this deal other than not liking Nylander for some reason??


Owner in FLA wants to dump salary so it makes no sense to send back Matthews/Marner. This isn't a hockey trade it's a financially driven trade for FLA.

OTT trade is they get playable contracts rather than dead salary, with Gaborik, that Leafs use to get cap compliant via LTIR.

NJ deal to free up cap and hope Foote can develop into a player in a couple of years (ie Kessel for Kapanen).

ANA trade had to happen after Ekblad trade, not wanting to trade Nylander but had to with a flat cap.
13 août 2020 à 9 h 16
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That's a BAD deal for CBJ.

The NJD trade might be a slight overpay by Toronto but Foote is very much the kind of player Toronto should be looking to find. He's the perfect spice to add to a Tavares-Marner or Matthews-Nylander line.


Isn't it worse for CBJ to have an asset sit on the sidelines and receive nothing for him. If a team were to offer sheet him, it would be a 2nd round pick, this deal gives a 2nd plus a potential player.
13 août 2020 à 9 h 17
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Cap space?


Exactly
13 août 2020 à 10 h 22
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Quoting: mytduxfan
Cap space?

Trading Nylander to free up cap space is a trade you lose 10/10 times.
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Owner in FLA wants to dump salary so it makes no sense to send back Matthews/Marner. This isn't a hockey trade it's a financially driven trade for FLA.

OTT trade is they get playable contracts rather than dead salary, with Gaborik, that Leafs use to get cap compliant via LTIR.

NJ deal to free up cap and hope Foote can develop into a player in a couple of years (ie Kessel for Kapanen).

ANA trade had to happen after Ekblad trade, not wanting to trade Nylander but had to with a flat cap.

Yeah they’re dumping salary but if you were paying attention to that situation you’d know Quenneville specifically is trying to develop strong relationships with Barkov+Ekblad, as they are the long-term leaders of the team and quite frankly the only untouchables, for good reason. And I’d like to reiterate—a 3rd liner doesn’t get you a #1 RHD in any universe, even if they were selling Ekblad (which they are not) they could get more value than that from any other team, and that as an initial offer means they probably don’t even bother negotiating with you because it’s a super low-ball and you’re never gonna reach an acceptable level of value if you actually believe that ever had a chance of being considered.

I understand the point of the Ottawa trade and the NJD trade. The young teams don’t like losing that asset (#33 and Foote respectively) but you’re super overpaying to the point where they can easily get more value by trading on the pieces they acquire so both teams would probably accept.

See above comment on what happens when you trade a star for “cap space”
13 août 2020 à 10 h 39
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Isn't it worse for CBJ to have an asset sit on the sidelines and receive nothing for him. If a team were to offer sheet him, it would be a 2nd round pick, this deal gives a 2nd plus a potential player.


I know Anderson had season ending shoulder surgery but should be more than fully recovered by the time next season starts. He's also a guy who scored 27 goals in 18-19, while leading his team in hits. He's absolutely the player Toronto needs, but that offer won't do it. And let's be honest, no GM sees Bracco as a potential player. He's an undersized prospect coming off his worst AHL season, who even in his best season was never given an NHL game by Toronto. IF (and that's a big IF) Columbus were to shop Anderson there'd be much better offers from teams like OTT, NJD, MTL, LAK...
13 août 2020 à 11 h 11
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OTT accepts.

With Kerfoot at 3C we can move Tierney for a 2nd+3rd
13 août 2020 à 12 h 23
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Quoting: Alfie11
Trading Nylander to free up cap space is a trade you lose 10/10 times.

Yeah they’re dumping salary but if you were paying attention to that situation you’d know Quenneville specifically is trying to develop strong relationships with Barkov+Ekblad, as they are the long-term leaders of the team and quite frankly the only untouchables, for good reason. And I’d like to reiterate—a 3rd liner doesn’t get you a #1 RHD in any universe, even if they were selling Ekblad (which they are not) they could get more value than that from any other team, and that as an initial offer means they probably don’t even bother negotiating with you because it’s a super low-ball and you’re never gonna reach an acceptable level of value if you actually believe that ever had a chance of being considered.

I understand the point of the Ottawa trade and the NJD trade. The young teams don’t like losing that asset (#33 and Foote respectively) but you’re super overpaying to the point where they can easily get more value by trading on the pieces they acquire so both teams would probably accept.

See above comment on what happens when you trade a star for “cap space”


Can't say I've been paying attention to FLA beyond the owner wanting to save money - so if that's the case where those are the centre pieces of the team going fwd then yes I've low balled the offer. In which case I wouldn't do the deal and thus the ANA/Nylander deal doesn't happen subsequently making this ACGM needing a revisit.
13 août 2020 à 15 h 19
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Quoting: TCMonkey
I know Anderson had season ending shoulder surgery but should be more than fully recovered by the time next season starts. He's also a guy who scored 27 goals in 18-19, while leading his team in hits. He's absolutely the player Toronto needs, but that offer won't do it. And let's be honest, no GM sees Bracco as a potential player. He's an undersized prospect coming off his worst AHL season, who even in his best season was never given an NHL game by Toronto. IF (and that's a big IF) Columbus were to shop Anderson there'd be much better offers from teams like OTT, NJD, MTL, LAK...


If Toronto went the offer sheet route for Anderson, CBJ has just over $5m in cap space next year and Dubois is gonna get paid that plus some so they won't be able to match and take a 2nd.
18 août 2020 à 15 h 24
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If Toronto went the offer sheet route for Anderson, CBJ has just over $5m in cap space next year and Dubois is gonna get paid that plus some so they won't be able to match and take a 2nd.


You're assuming CBJ won't trade any of their other players to make room to extend Anderson, which they could.
And you're also ignoring that Toronto is not the only team who'd be interested if they were trading him. As I pointed out, your offer would fall very short.
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