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Créé par: Ragsandbluesfan
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020
Publié: 11 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CHI
  1. Marner, Mitchell
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YOU'RE NOT GETTING FUTURES FOR MARNER
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1881 500 000 $76 271 783 $0 $0 $5 228 217 $
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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11 août 2020 à 23 h 11
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Unfortunately you're right, I wouldn't do this trade though
11 août 2020 à 23 h 15
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You can get futures for Marner easily. It just won't be all you're getting.
11 août 2020 à 23 h 16
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
You can get futures for Marner easily. It just won't be all you're getting.


you wont get futures unless its something like a 2nd as an add on
11 août 2020 à 23 h 17
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Marner is a 22 year old 90+ point top line all star!!!! Ant GM in the league would give up unknowns for what is known... asinine to say teams wouldnt give up futures for a bonafide point per game forward
11 août 2020 à 23 h 22
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Sorry Hawks fans are busy right now...stay tuned
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11 août 2020 à 23 h 22
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
you wont get futures unless its something like a 2nd as an add on


Obviously the money is the obstacle that needs to be overcome in any hypothetical Marner trade. How that happens would be a huge determining factor in what the rest of the trade could be composed of. If they wanted the main value of the return to be made up of futures (which they very likely don't), they could easily make that happen.
11 août 2020 à 23 h 24
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honestly moving nylander is the smarter move. His contract is easier to let go of, the package offers for him were way better than marners. Plus while people complain about marners offense im good, the new matthews line was solid and honestly keeping it together is what dubas and keefe should prioritize. It can lead the charge for the leafs offense while Nylander can be moved to help out our blueline
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11 août 2020 à 23 h 29
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: Sean4417
Marner is a 22 year old 90+ point top line all star!!!! Ant GM in the league would give up unknowns for what is known... asinine to say teams wouldnt give up futures for a bonafide point per game forward


Yeah he’s a 90+point player being paid as if he’s a 100 + point player. In a vacuum Marner is amazing but add that god awful contract and he loses value imo. The caps is 81.5 million teams that need him don’t have the cap and teams that can afford him aren’t giving up futures for him. So either you take a lesser value or you keep doing what you are doing now and hope for a better result. Either way Matthews is gone in 4 years.
11 août 2020 à 23 h 31
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Caps fan idk why
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Quoting: aadoyle
honestly moving nylander is the smarter move. His contract is easier to let go of, the package offers for him were way better than marners. Plus while people complain about marners offense im good, the new matthews line was solid and honestly keeping it together is what dubas and keefe should prioritize. It can lead the charge for the leafs offense while Nylander can be moved to help out our blueline


Out of the “big 4” his contract is the only one that isn’t terrible. Seems like a lose lose trading him....
11 août 2020 à 23 h 34
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Out of the “big 4” his contract is the only one that isn’t terrible. Seems like a lose lose trading him....


i mean tavares is fine and matthews its just the term length. If he signed for 8 years nobody would complain. Dubas should have saw what ranta got and paid marner that.

Cause sure 11mill is alot but islanders were planning on giving him 10mill and sharks 13-15 mill for 4 years. And tavares was busting his ass out there and i believe next season were gonna see why the C was given to him.
11 août 2020 à 23 h 37
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Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Yeah he’s a 90+point player being paid as if he’s a 100 + point player. In a vacuum Marner is amazing but add that god awful contract and he loses value imo. The caps is 81.5 million teams that need him don’t have the cap and teams that can afford him aren’t giving up futures for him. So either you take a lesser value or you keep doing what you are doing now and hope for a better result. Either way Matthews is gone in 4 years.


I'd be willing to bet he will hit 100 pts in the next year or 2.
11 août 2020 à 23 h 42
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You probably could but I don’t know why you’d want to. Creates a huge hole in the lineup and all you get back a ton of maybes. Seems like a big risk for a team trying to win now
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11 août 2020 à 23 h 42
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Quoting: aadoyle
i mean tavares is fine and matthews its just the term length. If he signed for 8 years nobody would complain. Dubas should have saw what ranta got and paid marner that.

Cause sure 11mill is alot but islanders were planning on giving him 10mill and sharks 13-15 mill for 4 years. And tavares was busting his ass out there and i believe next season were gonna see why the C was given to him.


Tavares was market rate. Doesn’t mean they should have done it/ needed him. Proof is islander have done better without him.

Matthews should have got 10mx8y
Marner should have got 9-9.5x8y
Nylander at first looked bad but his deal is cool.

They overpaid. Other side of the coin is holding out or they leave but the GM really made things hard by handing out massive money to his RFA while also handing out one of the highest (at the time ) contracts to a UFA. You do one or the other not both imo
11 août 2020 à 23 h 48
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I'd be willing to bet he will hit 100 pts in the next year or 2.


Cool....Leon hit 100 and he’s way cheap. Pasta was on pace for 100 and won a rocket (Matthews hasn’t yet!) guentzel and Marner had similar ppg and he signed for 6 million. I’m excited to watch him score 100 soon smile
11 août 2020 à 23 h 55
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Dubas isnt a genius
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
Cool....Leon hit 100 and he’s way cheap. Pasta was on pace for 100 and won a rocket (Matthews hasn’t yet!) guentzel and Marner had similar ppg and he signed for 6 million. I’m excited to watch him score 100 soon smile


Trust me buddy I'm waiting too Confused
12 août 2020 à 2 h 44
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As a hawks fan I'd probably take this, we'd be in further cap hell but it would be worth it for Marner. We'd probably have to deal strome, too because we wouldn't be able to afford him if we got Marner so this would be a huge trade.
12 août 2020 à 8 h 35
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Hawks pass. Value wise it is good but we can't take Mainers contract. If you want to retain a bit (I know TOR won't) then the hawks could add a sweetener for that and it would be great
 
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