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Créé par: Pens3lieve

Équipe: 2020-21 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020

Publié: 11 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

3 Team Trade Breakdown:

TOR gives--}Anderson, Nylander
TOR gets--}Murray, Letang, Rinne (to LTIR or whatever)

PIT gives--}Murray, Letang
PIT gets--}Ellis, Bonino (with retention)

NSH gives--}Ellis, Bonino, Rinne
NSH gets--}Nylander, Anderson

Some notes:
1-the PP units fall into place better with Smith/Bonino/Ellis all slotting in.
2-The 3rd pair/3rd line issues loo better.
3-Khudobin is signed as the veteran backup presence with DeSmith as insurance for injury.
4-Sid gets a speedy hardworking RH RW.
5- (59-71-17) reunited and Buzzsaw kept intact.
6-No more face-offs for McCann as he moves to #3LW.
7-Good depth is preserved. Not starting are Simon/Erod/Lafferty/Poulin/Angello, Joseph/Ruhwedel/Riikola, and DeSmith.

Your thoughts???

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Angello, Anthony	2	750 000 $
Lafferty, Sam	2	750 000 $
Riikola, Juuso	2	750 000 $
Simon, Dominik	3	1 000 000 $
Rodrigues, Evan	2	800 000 $
McCann, Jared	3	2 500 000 $
Jarry, Tristan	3	2 750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Smith, Craig	4	3 750 000 $
Soucy, Carson	2	2 000 000 $
Beaulieu, Nathan	2	1 300 000 $
Khudobin, Anton	2	2 500 000 $

Transactions

PIT

TOR

Letang, Kris
Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]

Détails additionnels:

*Part 1 of 3-Team trade

PIT

Bonino, Nick (2 000 000 $ retained)
Ellis, Ryan
Rinne, Pekka

NSH

Détails additionnels:

*Part 2 of 3-Team Trade

PIT

TOR

Rinne, Pekka

Détails additionnels:

*Part 3 of 3-Team trade

PIT

Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BUF)

BUF

Bjugstad, Nick

PIT

Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (OTT)

OTT

Almeida, Justin
Björkqvist, Kasper
Johnson, Jack
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)

Enfoui

Casey DeSmith: 175 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
Juuso Riikola: 0 $ (750 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	77 125 175 $	0 $	850 000 $	4 374 825 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 5	Smith, Craig 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2
McCann, Jared 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Bonino, Nick 2 100 000 $2 100 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Aston-Reese, Zach 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Hörnqvist, Patric 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 3
		Tanev, Brandon 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 5

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Ellis, Ryan 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ DD UFA - 7	Jarry, Tristan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ G UFA - 3
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG UFA - 5	Marino, John 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 1
	Soucy, Carson 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Khudobin, Anton 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ G UFA - 3
Beaulieu, Nathan 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Simon, Dominik 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Rodrigues, Evan 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rust, B.		Hörnqvist, P.		Crosby, S.
	Ellis, R.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Smith, C.		Bonino, N.		Guentzel, J.
	Marino, J.		McCann, J.

Does Sully get fired?

11 août 2020 à 14 h 51

Pens3lieve

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11 août 2020 à 14 h 51

SammyT_51

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Nope lol

11 août 2020 à 14 h 52

JaredOfLondon

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what the hell is that?

11 août 2020 à 14 h 53

leafs101

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Andersen > Murray
Nylander > Letang

Pass.

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11 août 2020 à 14 h 55

AnalyticsGeek

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I like this team. I just think Craig Smith gets more money, possibly 5 Million. He was sensational this season.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 0

Yojimbo

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Quoting: leafs101

Andersen > Murray
Nylander > Letang

Pass.

Yeah, apparently Toronto fans think that Andersen is a top-10 goalie in the league. But that is what happens to a fan base when you get to the second round of the playoffs once in the last 18 seasons.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 2

gmgb

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Preds decline. Awful value for them.

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11 août 2020 à 15 h 2

leafs101

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Quoting: Yojimbo

Murray was literal garbage this series. Andersen was very very good but the team in front of him didn't get it done.

Even if they are even, or even if Murray is slightly better, the difference between the value of Andersen and Murray is not the difference between the value of Nylander and Letang

11 août 2020 à 15 h 7

MajesticWalrus

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Letang has more offensive upside than Ellis. Letang is also bigger, stronger, and hits a lot more. All in all I'd rather have Letang with the listed qualities than Ellis who's just a tiny bit more responsible with the puck.

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11 août 2020 à 15 h 15

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gdg_9

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That deal is terrible for the Leafs.
If Ellis were available, they would be better off dealing directly with NSH for him.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 19

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firezfurx

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Quoting: gmgb

Preds decline. Awful value for them.

Yeah why do all the extra steps and not just Nylander for Ellis straight up

11 août 2020 à 15 h 21

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gmgb

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Quoting: firezfurx

Yeah why do all the extra steps and not just Nylander for Ellis straight up

Because the Preds would decline that too.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 22

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firezfurx

Dubas isnt a genius

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Quoting: gmgb

Because the Preds would decline that too.

You'd be crazy to decline that. Ellis is like 6 years older and we all know his contract isn't going to age well.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 22

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Drw4209

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Hey you have to give up something of actual value for teams to take your cap dumps

11 août 2020 à 15 h 25

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gmgb

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Quoting: MajesticWalrus

That's cool. I prefer more years of the younger, smarter, cheaper player with better positioning, defensive game, and equal offensive ability. To each their own.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 28

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Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: leafs101

Andersen > Murray
Nylander > Letang

Pass.

Quoting: leafs101

Andersen > Murray
Nylander > Letang

Pass.

Quoting: leafs101

Andersen > Murray
Nylander > Letang

Pass.

Besides, Letang is old and always injured.

Tortarella was right by calling out Toronto sports media. Either they know little about hockey and talk **** 24/7 because of that, or they just want to sell sesations. Some people think Freddie and Nylander are ****ty players, but they were not the issue (they have to take part of the blame, but there are some who have to take bigger parts)

11 août 2020 à 15 h 32

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MajesticWalrus

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Quoting: gmgb

That's cool. I prefer more years of the younger, smarter, cheaper player with better positioning, defensive game, and equal offensive ability. To each their own.

Except he's only 3 to 4 years younger depending on what time of year it is. And Letang has put up several meaning more than one point per game season while Ellis has yet to do it and he's turning 30. So when is Ellis going to do this exactly when he's heading for the wrong side of 30 and will regress. And Letang is still good defensively he blocks a lot of shots just like Ellis and like I said Ellis is only slightly more responsible with the puck. I'll give it to you that he's cheaper though.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 36

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gmgb

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Quoting: firezfurx

You'd be crazy to decline that. Ellis is like 6 years older and we all know his contract isn't going to age well.

How do you know that? With his positioning and vision, Ellis' game should age better than most dmen.

Losing Ellis creates a bigger problem for NSH than Nylander solves. Swapping Andersson for Rinne does nothing for them, other than disrespect their all-time greatest player, in what's likely his final season. Giving away a great 3rd line center for no reason (with $2M retention, no less), doesn't make them better, and is just awful asset management.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 44

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firezfurx

Dubas isnt a genius

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Quoting: gmgb

For the record I'm only talking about Nylander for Ellis, not the other stuff.

I think Ellis won't age horribly when it comes to offense but will when it comes to defense. He plays a somewhat similar game to Doughty and Karlsson and those 2 have not aged gracefully at all.

11 août 2020 à 15 h 44

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mhockey91

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Pens get fleeced.

Letang > Ellis
Murray > Bonino

Hard pass

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11 août 2020 à 15 h 47

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gmgb

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Quoting: MajesticWalrus

3-4 years can be a huge deal, after players hit 30. While both players have had multiple injuries the past few seasons, Letang's conern me a lot more. Being partnered with Josi means Ellis has to be the more defensive player. GIve Letang's minutes on PIT's power play to Ellis, and his stats would be similar, if not better. Overall, I think Ellis will be the better defensemen for the rest of their careers.

11 août 2020 à 20 h 56

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Pens3lieve

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Quoting: mhockey91

Pens get fleeced.

Letang > Ellis
Murray > Bonino

Hard pass

given that fans from all 3 teams now have said they don't like it and their team gets the worst of it I think it might be a decent trade....LOL

12 août 2020 à 14 h 23

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NoWah49

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I see this as a lateral move. We don't get much younger so idk if it's worth it

12 août 2020 à 14 h 41

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Pens3lieve

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Quoting: NoWah49

I see this as a lateral move. We don't get much younger so idk if it's worth it

yeah IK it's just a crazy idea. we trade and replace tanger to shake the team up and get rid of Murray who is gone anyway.....plus get a decent #3C...

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12 août 2020 à 16 h 25

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Sidstick87

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Quoting: Pens3lieve

@gregb569 @BradTolliverGoalie @pharrow @mhockey91 @Sidstick87 @Eugene_Meltsner @acj @NoWah49 @Marcsnack @MitchMarnerElite @ryandrisc @PakNation7 @Missouri @hockeygm @Geno_the_Hero @CHUG @Adamitis @Vlad1sko @dgfresh78 @JordanFerreira99 @Arom5477 @Marino4Norris @Yojimbo @bhavikp27 @csick @penguindude87 @PensGM2019

What do you think? Pls vote in the poll.

Letang is NOT getting traded.... How do replace 25 min each night, #1 PP guy, #1PK guy and #1 RHD dont exactly grow on tree's

If anyone gets moved it will be Geno bc of how GMJR said,
- "I'm not moving the Core but if I get a call i will listen"
He then proceeded to say ...
IDK why but this team tends to play better when 1 of the 2- Centers are out & I dont kno why?? - HINT - HINT??

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