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Créé par: MNBassman

Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota

Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020

Publié: 11 août 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I am in the minority here, but I don’t think the Wild NEED a #1 center...or am at least convinced the will not get one anytime soon... I do, however, firmly believe they can be legitimately competitive with three #2 centers and also consider this more realistic.

Adding Dumba to the Nucks blueline would be huge! Having a one-two punch of Hughes and Dumba would allow them all kinds of options and match up nightmares.
I need help with value here, but this is where I start with my offer. Im very interested in reading opinions from both team’s fanbases as well as the many other astute NHL nerds that lurk around these parts!

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Belpedio, Louis	2	750 000 $
Menell, Brennan	2	800 000 $
Robson, Mat	2	800 000 $
Sturm, Nico	2	900 000 $
Kunin, Luke	3	2 800 000 $
Greenway, Jordan	2	1 750 000 $
Virtanen, Jake	3	1 750 000 $
Cirelli, Anthony	5	6 250 000 $
Kähkönen, Kaapo	3	1 250 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Soucy, Carson		4	2 750 000 $
Braun, Justin		2	2 750 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Cirelli, Anthony	6 250 000 $	Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 Choix de 3e ronde en 2021

Transactions

MIN

Horvat, Bo
Virtanen, Jake [Droits de RFA]

VAN

MIN

Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DAL)

DAL

Zuccarello, Mats (1 500 000 $ retained)

MIN

Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)

WPG

Staal, Eric

Détails additionnels:

Jets can be any team looking for a veteran center on the cheap.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Mats Zuccarello: 1 500 000 $ (25%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	71 682 758 $	0 $	925 000 $	9 817 242 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Parise, Zach 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ AG NMC UFA - 5	Horvat, Bo 4 125 000 $4 125 000 $ C UFA - 3	Fiala, Kevin 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Kaprizov, Kirill 925 000 $925 000 $ (925 000 $$925K) AG UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony 6 250 000 $6 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 3	Kunin, Luke 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AD, C RFA - 2
Donato, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Eriksson Ek, Joel 1 487 500 $1 487 500 $ C UFA - 1	Virtanen, Jake 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Foligno, Marcus 2 875 000 $2 875 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1		Hartman, Ryan 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1
	Sturm, Nico 900 000 $900 000 $ C UFA - 2
	Rask, Victor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Suter, Ryan 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 5	Spurgeon, Jared 7 575 000 $7 575 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7	Kähkönen, Kaapo 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas 4 166 667 $4 166 667 $ DG NMC UFA - 1	Soucy, Carson 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Stalock, Alex 785 000 $785 000 $ G UFA - 2
Hunt, Brad 700 000 $700 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1	Braun, Justin 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DD UFA - 2
	Menell, Brennan 800 000 $800 000 $ D UFA

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Dubnyk, Devan 2 166 667 $2 166 667 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Pateryn, Greg 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ DD UFA - 1

11 août 2020 à 10 h 24

SevenLeg

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I highly doubt VAN is trading Horvat. He's their captain and is signed to a really good contract. They could also just re-sign Tanev to play with Hughes

Remus, remowilliams et brocklesnar a aimé ceci.

11 août 2020 à 10 h 25

FloppyBiscuit

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I wonder if a Pavelski - Zuccarello swap could be worked out... I'd rather take the larger cap hit for shorter term

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 28

masterjuddi

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No way there's retention for the Zuccarello deal. He's got 4 more years left on his deal...that's just bad management.
The Vancouver deal is decent as far as value goes, but I highly doubt the canucks trade away Horvat with Brandon SUtter and Jay Beagle as their next two C's up.

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 29

wabit

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I agree with your thinking about the three #2 centers. That being said I really don't see Van trading their "C" away.

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 30

Remus

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When I think of three number twos, I think of Nashville and how they haven’t gotten far in the playoffs sincerely their final against the Pens. Maybe not the best strategy?

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 30

wabit

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Quoting: masterjuddi

If it makes Zucc go away I can see MN retaining for the duration of the deal. They are used to having dead cap with all the buyouts they've used over the years.

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 36

Timmah007

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Instead of signing Braun for 3rd pair I’d give benning and a 3rd for staal? Benning will cost that but is younger and is fantastic as a third pair d.

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 36

Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: masterjuddi

Actually next up is adam gaudette

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11 août 2020 à 10 h 59

Windjammer

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I don't see the Jets considering that deal at all.

11 août 2020 à 11 h 9

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masterjuddi

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Actually next up is adam gaudette

Do you think he's read for 2C responsibilities? He's around 40% so far in his young career and didn't even take 500 faceoff's last season. Maybe they throw him in there, but I don't think he's playing full time top 6 C minutes for a little bit

11 août 2020 à 11 h 9

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Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: masterjuddi

Agreed

11 août 2020 à 11 h 11

#12

masterjuddi

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Quoting: Windjammer

I don't see the Jets considering that deal at all.

If Im the jets I do it or at least look for a similar deal (Stastny). Staal's been really good for the wild. He's produced and has been healthy.

11 août 2020 à 11 h 14

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Windjammer

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Quoting: masterjuddi

If Im the jets I do it or at least look for a similar deal (Stastny). Staal's been really good for the wild. He's produced and has been healthy.

If the Jets are spending assets, they need to go after a looking term solution. They can't afford to keep throwing away youth for a short term fix.

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11 août 2020 à 11 h 23

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masterjuddi

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Quoting: Windjammer

If the Jets are spending assets, they need to go after a looking term solution. They can't afford to keep throwing away youth for a short term fix.

I agree, but I think there is a legit chance Stastny could re-sign and for a much cheaper deal. He was close to re-signing before he signed with Vegas. Maybe something in the 4 mill AAV range for 2-3 years. Maybe Staal is the same? I don't really know

11 août 2020 à 11 h 27

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Windjammer

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Quoting: masterjuddi

They're both just too old and declining. We need someone who is the same relative age as our core, that can grow with our young guys. Not a player that needs to be replaced in a season or two.

11 août 2020 à 11 h 30

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masterjuddi

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Quoting: Windjammer

They're both just too old and declining. We need someone who is the same relative age as our core, that can grow with our young guys. Not a player that needs to be replaced in a season or two.

or you can look at them as stop gaps until the next C is developed? I agree that the jets need a 2C and I would love to see them make a move to acquire a guy with relative age, but those guys just don't get dealt. Lots of talk on here about Domi or Dylan Strome. I would trade the #10 pick straight up for one of those guys...maybe even add a sprinkle of Niku or Stanley to make it happen.
If Im the jets I look at making a deal this offseaon to solidify the 2C.

11 août 2020 à 12 h 14

#17

Windjammer

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Quoting: masterjuddi

Neither of the two guys you mentioned are worth a high first round pick, let alone #10. I wouldn't mind picking up an older vet, but only as a last resort and definitely not for a 2nd as proposed here. A mid-grade prospect or pick, maybe if nothing else is available. It's just not worth wasting the cap space on.

12 août 2020 à 2 h 47

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brocklesnar

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VAN is not moving there Captain.

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