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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020
Publié: 11 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 850 000 $
31 833 333 $
65 250 000 $
1775 000 $
1715 000 $
2800 000 $
44 450 000 $
45 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
41 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
NYR
  1. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (MIN)
MIN
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali
  2. Staal, Marc
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Krav is now expendable - He's a project player at this point, I wouldn't label his value as elite, but its worth moving to free cap now that the Rangers are a contender
2.
NYR
  1. Chlapik, Filip [Droits de RFA]
3.
NYR
  1. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
4.
NYR
  1. Zadorov, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
COL
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de NYR
Logo de CAR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NSH
Logo de VAN
2021
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de BUF
Logo de NYR
Logo de OTT
Logo de NYR
Logo de MIN
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2022
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $74 376 466 $0 $7 212 500 $7 123 534 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Lafreniere, Alexis
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Rangers de New York
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 833 333 $1 833 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
833 333 $833 333 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
715 000 $715 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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11 août 2020 à 3 h 16
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What a mistake that Kreider signing was
11 août 2020 à 3 h 16
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Not a personal attack at all, You are extremely sleeping on Vitali Kravtsov. He's a dynamic playmaking RW and we shouldn't move him for a 3LW. I like Greenway but no thanks.

Pass on the OTT deal. Won't move Georgiev in a cap dump and rather keep him.

I'll take the CGY deal.

Pass on the COL deal. Zadorov isn't going to be a long term fixture on the NYR LHD and trading a 2nd and 21-year-old top 10 pick who looks like he needs seasoning in the SHL is a bad move too. I think Lias will improve in Sweden and may improve his trade stock or level to maybe come back to NY and play with us again.
11 août 2020 à 3 h 17
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
What a mistake that Kreider signing was

Term is bad but salary is good.
11 août 2020 à 3 h 51
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Not a personal attack at all, You are extremely sleeping on Vitali Kravtsov. He's a dynamic playmaking RW and we shouldn't move him for a 3LW. I like Greenway but no thanks.

Pass on the OTT deal. Won't move Georgiev in a cap dump and rather keep him.

I'll take the CGY deal.

Pass on the COL deal. Zadorov isn't going to be a long term fixture on the NYR LHD and trading a 2nd and 21-year-old top 10 pick who looks like he needs seasoning in the SHL is a bad move too. I think Lias will improve in Sweden and may improve his trade stock or level to maybe come back to NY and play with us again.


I know you guys won the lottery, but that doesn't mean everyone carrys extreme optimism. The trade isn't Krav for a 3rd liner, it's moving cap to have an impactful team. I don't think Krav becomes much more than a 2nd liner, so I am in fact low on him, but in that case dumping 6M in cap for only a line difference of one line. Greenway is a pretty good player to have on this team too.

Georgiev is also massively overrated. He's a fringe starter at best, whose stats reflect one hot streak. His value is high, but on this site it is TOO high. Moving 4M in cap costs about a 2nd, which is what I would assign the value of Georgiev.

Andersson is unhappy in NY, everyone knows it, they're not paying fair value. Zadorov seems like an almost perfect pairing for Trouba.
11 août 2020 à 4 h 1
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Term is bad but salary is good.


Which makes it a bad deal, they don't need him and hes gonna be there eating cap for awhile
11 août 2020 à 4 h 8
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Which makes it a bad deal, they don't need him and hes gonna be there eating cap for awhile


Technically the NMC doesn't kick in until FA starts, so they could technically trade him at the draft to free the spot lol
11 août 2020 à 4 h 12
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
Which makes it a bad deal, they don't need him and hes gonna be there eating cap for awhile


They don't need him now that Lafreniere is coming. No one expected it at the time.
11 août 2020 à 4 h 13
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I know you guys won the lottery, but that doesn't mean everyone carrys extreme optimism. The trade isn't Krav for a 3rd liner, it's moving cap to have an impactful team. I don't think Krav becomes much more than a 2nd liner, so I am in fact low on him, but in that case dumping 6M in cap for only a line difference of one line. Greenway is a pretty good player to have on this team too.

Georgiev is also massively overrated. He's a fringe starter at best, whose stats reflect one hot streak. His value is high, but on this site it is TOO high. Moving 4M in cap costs about a 2nd, which is what I would assign the value of Georgiev.

Andersson is unhappy in NY, everyone knows it, they're not paying fair value. Zadorov seems like an almost perfect pairing for Trouba.

I gotcha. Personally disagree and would rather hold onto them but moot point since NYR won't move em anyway considering the asking prices.
11 août 2020 à 4 h 16
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They don't need him now that Lafreniere is coming. No one expected it at the time.


Everyone said it was a bad deal at the time too an aging powerforward for 6 more years
11 août 2020 à 4 h 17
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Everyone said it was a bad deal at the time too an aging powerforward for 6 more years


Oh I know, I was pissed. Maybe they look to trade him who knows...
11 août 2020 à 6 h 16
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Oh I know, I was pissed. Maybe they look to trade him who knows...


Just like Trouba, they can't just trade him. A decision was made and they have to see it through, it won't be a problem for a few years anyways but when Laffy needs a deal and Ziba is making at least 10M y'all are gonna hate Kreider
11 août 2020 à 6 h 19
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Just like Trouba, they can't just trade him. A decision was made and they have to see it through, it won't be a problem for a few years anyways but when Laffy needs a deal and Ziba is making at least 10M y'all are gonna hate Kreider


Zibanejad won't be making $10M+ at 29 imo. They'll move him.
11 août 2020 à 6 h 23
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Zibanejad won't be making $10M+ at 29 imo. They'll move him.


I think he signs for 10x6 and how or why would they move him
11 août 2020 à 6 h 23
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I think he signs for 10x6 and how or why would they move him


Because he's entering 30 Y/O and they will pull another Brassard/Zibanejad swap
11 août 2020 à 6 h 27
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Because he's entering 30 Y/O and they will pull another Brassard/Zibanejad swap


Brassard was never as good as Zib was this year and hes a top C, doubt theyd move a guy 1 season removed from leading the NHL in G/gp
11 août 2020 à 6 h 28
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Brassard was never as good as Zib was this year and hes a top C, doubt theyd move a guy 1 season removed from leading the NHL in G/gp


I could see it but maybe not idk lol
11 août 2020 à 7 h 28
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Ottawa made the mistake of signing an inflated deal with the Hamburglar because of a hot streak, they won't make that mistake with Georgiev who they'd only need if Nilsson is retiring anyway.
11 août 2020 à 8 h 18
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Pass on the COL deal. Zadorov isn't going to be a long term fixture on the NYR LHD and trading a 2nd and 21-year-old top 10 pick who looks like he needs seasoning in the SHL is a bad move too. I think Lias will improve in Sweden and may improve his trade stock or level to maybe come back to NY and play with us again.


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Andersson is unhappy in NY, everyone knows it, they're not paying fair value. Zadorov seems like an almost perfect pairing for Trouba.


Zadorov would be a solid fit with Rangers. You can QO him at $3.2m for 1 year and then decide what to do with him next year when he's an RFA again (as far as I understand). Whatever the case paying him $4.45m x 4 years would be too much. $3.75m would be in line with Butcher and seems more appropriate.

For Zadorov the ideal return would be a 2020 2nd and a 3rd (any year). This is a pretty intriguing trade though and I'd be inclined to accept, presuming that Andersson would be happy with playing a year in the AHL with the nearby Colorado Eagles.
11 août 2020 à 8 h 39
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COL declines easy.
Andersson is off little to no value to COL, we will take a pick instead
 
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