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Full season of Matthews-Tavares-Marner

Créé par: Daryl
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2020
Publié: 10 août 2020
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
As shown during the Columbus series, Toronto's line of Matthews-Tavares-Marner was incredibly dominant, and should be given to chance to play a full season (lines like this work for teams like Colorado and Boston). Only issue with this line was the fact that the other three lines sucked....

Truth is, Nylander is simply not a center anymore, which raises the need for a new 2C. Morgan Rielly is great offensively, which makes him redundant given the Leafs already have great offense. Moving Rielly who was great 2 years ago but struggled this year, for Max Domi who was also great 2 years ago but struggled this year, helps both Toronto and Montreal. Leafs get an aggressive 2C (Habs still have Danault, Suzuki, and Kotkaniemi) and the Habs fill a major need at LD (Rielly-Weber should be fun). The Leafs then start the season with a line of Hyman-Domi-Nylander but probably eventually swap Hyman with Robertson.

Then there's the defense...

Leafs fans need to accept that Dubas won't be able to acquire an elite RHD as they are simply far too expensive. The best he can do is construct a d-core that is solid, reliable, and can actually support Andersen.

Henri Jokiharju is a massive risk but he's cheap, young, and would likely play well next to Jake Muzzin. Moving Johnsson hurts but it frees up cap, and allows for Robertson to have an increased role. Buffalo already has some RHD depth and could really benefit from having Johnsson in a top six role.

I'm a big fan of Scott Mayfield who can provide a shutdown role the Leafs have been lacking, he also makes very little money relative to other d-men. Kapanen's speed probably makes him an immediate line-mate to Mathew Barzal, and he should help an Islanders team that has struggled severely with goal scoring.

Overall, the team isn't perfect but I think allowing the nuclear topline to play together is a huge plus. In addition, the defense still isn't ideal, but if Sandin and Lehtonen can produce, perhaps the Leafs could see a series win.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Åberg, Pontus1750 000 $
Bracco, Jeremy2875 000 $
Veronneau, Max1950 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik1950 000 $
Malgin, Denis1800 000 $
Domi, Max46 800 000 $
Dermott, Travis23 000 000 $
Mikheyev, Ilya12 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Gravel, Kevin1750 000 $
Kaskisuo, Kasimir1750 000 $
Salomäki, Miikka1800 000 $
Spezza, Jason11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Mayfield, Scott
  2. 2021 3e round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
2.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  2. Ylönen, Jesse
  3. 2020 3e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Rielly, Morgan
  2. 2020 4e round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. 2022 3e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
4.
TOR
  1. 2021 3e round pick (ARI)
NJD
  1. Holl, Justin
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
MTL
VGK
VGK
TOR
CAR
COL
SJS
STL
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
NYI
ARI
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
BUF
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 371 450 $0 $637 500 $128 550 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
Domi, Max
6 800 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Robertson, Nicholas
821 667 $
AG
RFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
1 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
3 000 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
TOR
Marincin, Martin
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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10 août 2020 à 20 h 18
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If the Sabres trade Jokiharju - nevermind to a divisional rival - I'll boil a boot and eat the damn thing. Miller is a much more realistic target given what you're offering.

That Montreal trade is incredibly awful for the Leafs.
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10 août 2020 à 20 h 18
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From what I have heard mayfield won’t cost that much and he isn’t playing well.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 19
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
If the Sabres trade Jokiharju - nevermind to a divisional rival - I'll boil a boot and eat the damn thing. Miller is a much more realistic target given what you're offering.

That Montreal trade is incredibly awful for the Leafs.

He even added a 3rd coming back lol.
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10 août 2020 à 20 h 20
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
If the Sabres trade Jokiharju - nevermind to a divisional rival - I'll boil a boot and eat the damn thing. Miller is a much more realistic target given what you're offering.

That Montreal trade is incredibly awful for the Leafs.


Aside form Eichel, Reinhart, and Olofsson the Sabres offense is pretty dry. Johnsson could easily slot in the top six and the power play and make an impact.

Did you watch the TOR/CBJ series? Rielly looked lost on the ice. Domi is only a year removed from 70 points. A season with Robertson and Nylander could easily return him to that. He's also the exact type of player the Leafs have been in need of since Kadri got moved.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 21
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Quoting: Jamiepo
From what I have heard mayfield won’t cost that much and he isn’t playing well.


Kapanen also haven't been playing well. Can't just offer up the good'ol Bracco, Kappy, and a 3rd and expect a miracle.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Daryl
Aside form Eichel, Reinhart, and Olofsson the Sabres offense is pretty dry. Johnsson could easily slot in the top six and the power play and make an impact.

Did you watch the TOR/CBJ series? Rielly looked lost on the ice. Domi is only a year removed from 70 points. A season with Robertson and Nylander could easily return him to that. He's also the exact type of player the Leafs have been in need of since Kadri got moved.


Yeah but they are not trading their best RD who’s only 20 they have Skinner, Olofsson, Kahun,Johansson as left wingers. Ristolainen Miller and Montour are all available.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 25
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Out of curiosity would you trade Sandin and a 3rd for Andreas Johnsson? That is basically what you are offering Buffalo, Jokiharju is one of the top defense prospects in the league
10 août 2020 à 20 h 25
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Toronto's biggest weakness is defence. You've made their defence equivalent to a slightl a live average AHL defence.

Keeping the big 3 together for an entire season isn't smart. They're paid money to drive play themselves and centres are key. Tavares and Matthews need to play on different lines. Use them together when needed to throw teams off, but you can't keep them like that all year.

& Domi really shouldn't be a centre. Although he'd be a tremendous fit beside Matthews and Marner. Cost is likely gonna be too high to get him from a divisional and historical rival like Montreal. Rather spend the assets on team needs than adding to a strength.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 27
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Quoting: Sabres923
Yeah but they are not trading their best RD who’s only 20 they have Skinner, Olofsson, Kahun,Johansson as left wingers. Ristolainen Miller and Montour are all available.


Montour is easily the most overrated D in the league. Ristolainen isn't great at all. And Colin Miller is decent. Impact top-six wingers aren't cheap, and Montour, Risto, and Miller certaintly aren't as luxurious D options as they used to look.

I'll admit that its probably better if the Leafs added the pick to Johnsson, rather than Buffalo adding it to Jokiharju.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 28
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Quoting: Daryl
Montour is easily the most overrated D in the league. Ristolainen isn't great at all. And Colin Miller is decent. Impact top-six wingers aren't cheap, and Montour, Risto, and Miller certaintly aren't as luxurious D options as they used to look.

I'll admit that its probably better if the Leafs added the pick to Johnsson, rather than Buffalo adding it to Jokiharju.

That’s the point they aren’t trading their best RD especially at a position they don’t need improving.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 29
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Toronto's biggest weakness is defence. You've made their defence equivalent to a slightl a live average AHL defence.

Keeping the big 3 together for an entire season isn't smart. They're paid money to drive play themselves and centres are key. Tavares and Matthews need to play on different lines. Use them together when needed to throw teams off, but you can't keep them like that all year.

& Domi really shouldn't be a centre. Although he'd be a tremendous fit beside Matthews and Marner. Cost is likely gonna be too high to get him from a divisional and historical rival like Montreal. Rather spend the assets on team needs than adding to a strength.


I understand your point, but looking at how important Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen and Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak have been to their teams, I think the Leafs could seriously improve with Matthews-Tavares-Marner as the topline.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 31
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Quoting: Daryl
I understand your point, but looking at how important Landeskog-MacKinnon-Rantanen and Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak have been to their teams, I think the Leafs could seriously improve with Matthews-Tavares-Marner as the topline.


The big difference between those 2 lines and Toronto's is:
1. The money the players are being played
2. Toronto has 2 centres. Both those teams lack good centre depth behind they're top lines. (Kadri and Krecji are decent, but they're not the level of Matthews or Tavares)
10 août 2020 à 20 h 33
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Quoting: Sabres923
That’s the point they aren’t trading their best RD especially at a position they don’t need improving.


You guys tied with Arizona for 10th last in goals scored this past year. Take away Jack Eichel's input and you guys finish second last (ahead of Detroit). You desperately need offense from other players not named Jack Eichel.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 37
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
The big difference between those 2 lines and Toronto's is:
1. The money the players are being played
2. Toronto has 2 centres. Both those teams lack good centre depth behind they're top lines. (Kadri and Krecji are decent, but they're not the level of Matthews or Tavares)


I really don't think you can factor money as reason not to build a line capable of carrying the team. MacK, Landy, Bergeron, and Marchand were all signed at very different times than Marner, Matthews, and JT, hence why they make so much less. Ultimately, I think Keefe has to put out the lineup capable of producing the most goals. Of course if it doesn't work out you can always move Matthews back to 2C and put Domi or Kerfoot on the wing. What I'm saying is, this line is low risk high reward; if it works we win, and if it doesn't work we have alternative options.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 38
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Quoting: Daryl
I really don't think you can factor money as reason not to build a line capable of carrying the team. MacK, Landy, Bergeron, and Marchand were all signed at very different times than Marner, Matthews, and JT, hence why they make so much less. Ultimately, I think Keefe has to put out the lineup capable of producing the most goals. Of course if it doesn't work out you can always move Matthews back to 2C and put Domi or Kerfoot on the wing. What I'm saying is, this line is low risk high reward; if it works we win, and if it doesn't work we have alternative options.


Absolutely you can factor the money in. They're paid to drive play. If they weren't, they wouldn't be making over $10M each. When you make $11M a year you shouldn't have to play with the best players to create offence. You should be able to carry others to do it
10 août 2020 à 20 h 42
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Absolutely you can factor the money in. They're paid to drive play. If they weren't, they wouldn't be making over $10M each. When you make $11M a year you shouldn't have to play with the best players to create offence. You should be able to carry others to do it


And I get what you mean. What I'm arguing is that you should just make the lineup most likely to win the cup. Matthews-Tavares-Marner would be such a dominant line that can only work if we have the depth, with a guy like Max Domi I'd say we definitely do.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: Daryl
You guys tied with Arizona for 10th last in goals scored this past year. Take away Jack Eichel's input and you guys finish second last (ahead of Detroit). You desperately need offense from other players not named Jack Eichel.


There is no question that the sabres drastically need to improve their offense to become a good team. It's possible this trade even makes us better (I would doubt it).

There is also no question that if the Sabres do decide to trade Jokiharju, there would be significantly better offers for a young top 4 RHD on his ELC, especially in a cap strapped league.
10 août 2020 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: Daryl
You guys tied with Arizona for 10th last in goals scored this past year. Take away Jack Eichel's input and you guys finish second last (ahead of Detroit). You desperately need offense from other players not named Jack Eichel.


Obviously but they need Right wingers and centers not a 40 point LW which they already have plenty of.
10 août 2020 à 21 h 6
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Buffalo easily declines
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10 août 2020 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: Jamiepo
From what I have heard mayfield won’t cost that much and he isn’t playing well.


Idk where you heard that but he has been pretty solid for the isles in the qualifier round especially when they had to rotate 5 dmen
10 août 2020 à 21 h 45
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Islanders say maybe. Not sure if the Leafs are a team they want to deal with especially giving them something the need.
 
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