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1st Overall Pick

Créé par: JBR409
Date de création initiale: aoû 10, 2020
Publié: 10 aoû à 20 h 07
Équipe: 2020-21 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
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OTT
  1. 2020 1e round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. 2020 1e round pick (OTT)
  2. 2020 1e round pick (SJS)
  3. 2020 1e round pick (NYI)
Rangers select Stutzle with #3 and Drysdale with #5. Fills two needs for the Rangers.
Rachats de contrats
  • Dion Phaneuf: 1 354 167 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
NYR
OTT
CBJ
DAL
NYI
OTT
WPG
OTT
TBL
SJS
STL
2021
OTT
OTT
CBJ
SJS
OTT
COL
EDM
OTT
OTT
2022
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1181 500 000 $41 904 167 $0 $2 500 000 $39 595 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
OTT
Tkachuk, Brady
925 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
OTT
Anisimov, Artem
4 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
OTT
Ryan, Bobby
7 250 000 $
AD, AG
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
OTT
Gáborík, Marián
4 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
OTT
White, Colin
4 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 5
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
OTT
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
OTT
Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
OTT
Nilsson, Anders
2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
OTT
Wolanin, Christian
900 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
OTT
Högberg, Marcus
700 000 $
G
RFA - 1
OTT
Chabot, Thomas
8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8

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10 aoû à 20 h 08
#1
Hey Beter
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Haven't we all established by now how bad it would be for Ottawa to trade #3 and #5 for #1? Nevermind including #21?
Ryminister_27 a aimé ceci.
10 aoû à 20 h 09
#2
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Horrid for Ottawa
10 aoû à 20 h 12
#3
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Lafreniere isn't worth two top five picks.

Nor would it make sense for the Kings to trade the #2 and one of Turcotte/Vilardi.

The #3 and the Islanders pick would be the best offer NY would get from Ottawa. The #2 and a prospect like Rasmus Kupari/Akil Thomas would be the best they'd get from LA.

In other words, I think there won't be any moves in the top 5.
10 aoû à 20 h 14
#4
Rejoint: mar 2018
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Not likely to happen. Sens won't wanna give away all of their 1sts. I'd suggest something with prospects/young players close to NHL level already

Ottawa Senators
1st overall pick

New York Rangers
3rd overall pick
NYI 1st round pick
Logan Brown
Columbus' 2nd round pick
Jonathan Aspirot


Or something similar. Basically a mix of picks and young roster players. Gotta remember Lafreniere hasn't played a game in the league yet and whoever goes #3 could turn out better. So it's a lot to pay for a guy that's never played yet
10 aoû à 20 h 14
#5
Rejoint: aoû 2020
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No
10 aoû à 20 h 16
#6
Hey Beter
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Not likely to happen. Sens won't wanna give away all of their 1sts. I'd suggest something with prospects/young players close to NHL level already

Ottawa Senators
1st overall pick

New York Rangers
3rd overall pick
NYI 1st round pick
Logan Brown
Columbus' 2nd round pick
Jonathan Aspirot


Or something similar. Basically a mix of picks and young roster players. Gotta remember Lafreniere hasn't played a game in the league yet and whoever goes #3 could turn out better. So it's a lot to pay for a guy that's never played yet


Anything over #3 and #21 is a silly overpay, and still really stupid for Ottawa to consider.

Even if Logan Brown isn't a long-term fixture in Canada's Capital, he's the kind of prospect you trade one-for-one to address a direct need. There's no genuine need for the Senators to acquire Lafreniere. It does them more long term good to go for quantity here, given how much quality exists in the pieces they have in quantity.
10 aoû à 20 h 18
#7
Raymond to Buffalo
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Nope.
10 aoû à 20 h 20
#8
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Anything over #3 and #21 is a silly overpay, and still really stupid for Ottawa to consider.

Even if Logan Brown isn't a long-term fixture in Canada's Capital, he's the kind of prospect you trade one-for-one to address a direct need. There's no genuine need for the Senators to acquire Lafreniere. It does them more long term good to go for quantity here, given how much quality exists in the pieces they have in quantity.


#3 and #21 wouldn't get it done. The drop off of quality of players selected after the top 3 is massive. There's nothing giving the Rangers the comfort ability of knowing the get value for #1. You're essentially saying "give us #1 for #3 and a huge risk".. Sens would need to convince the Rangers that the value at least equals out. A mix of young NHL ready players and later picks would add greater odds of making up the difference between #1 and #3
10 aoû à 20 h 22
#9
Hey Beter
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
#3 and #21 wouldn't get it done. The drop off of quality of players selected after the top 3 is massive. There's nothing giving the Rangers the comfort ability of knowing the get value for #1. You're essentially saying "give us #1 for #3 and a huge risk".. Sens would need to convince the Rangers that the value at least equals out. A mix of young NHL ready players and later picks would add greater odds of making up the difference between #1 and #3


The value alone of the top-3 pick and a mid-first round pick is far too much to give up to move from #3 to #1. There's no justifying Ottawa making any trade for Lafreniere.
10 aoû à 20 h 23
#10
Rejoint: aoû 2020
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Makes sense for the rangers and would help them a lot but I still think they wouldn’t take it just cuz laf and the sens would never do that they’ve finally put themselves in a great position and stutzle and Byfield both have potential to be generations talents as good as laf if not better
10 aoû à 20 h 30
#11
Rejoint: aoû 2020
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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
Nope.


This would make sense for the rangers cuz they get Byfield/ stutzle who are almost guaranteed to be stars and could even become better that laf and a top d prospect in Drysdale who would fix the blueline problem that the rangers will have that will prevent them from ever winning a cup. This years draft is so strong that stutzle/ Byfield would go 1 2 in any other draft besides 2015 and Drysdale is easy top 3
10 aoû à 20 h 33
#12
Rhianna gets it
Rejoint: jui 2016
Messages: 932
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Easiest way to commit franchise suicide
10 aoû à 20 h 45
#13
Raymond to Buffalo
Rejoint: oct 2018
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Quoting: Capsfan58
This would make sense for the rangers cuz they get Byfield/ stutzle who are almost guaranteed to be stars and could even become better that laf and a top d prospect in Drysdale who would fix the blueline problem that the rangers will have that will prevent them from ever winning a cup. This years draft is so strong that stutzle/ Byfield would go 1 2 in any other draft besides 2015 and Drysdale is easy top 3


I don't care, I'm not trading a franchise player.
10 aoû à 21 h 16
#14
Rejoint: aoû 2020
Messages: 7
Mentions "j'aime": 2
Stutzle and Byfield are both close to if not franchise level and you get Drysdale a probable future Norris winner
 
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