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Équipe: 2020-21 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 10 août 2020
Publié: 10 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Embrace the tank
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 650 000 $
24 800 000 $
2800 000 $
2800 000 $
21 900 000 $
Transactions
1.
MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Staal, Eric (1 625 000 $ retained)
2.
MIN
  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
CHI
  1. Brodin, Jonas
Détails additionnels:
Comes w/ extension
3.
VGK
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Stalock, Alex
Détails additionnels:
Probably more
4.
MIN
  1. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
CGY
  1. Greenway, Jordan [Droits de RFA]
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UFA - 5
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 45
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Even though you're in our division, was really pulling for the Wild to get the #1
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 46
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Even though you're in our division, was really pulling for the Wild to get the #1


Appreciate the gesture. Sadly I think we're in for another 5-10 more years of mediocre hockey
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 49
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Deep breath, trust Guerin.
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 49
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Appreciate the gesture. Sadly I think we're in for another 5-10 more years of mediocre hockey


Why ruin a good thing? Keep the mediocrity going forever!
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 51
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Deep breath, trust Guerin.


I do, but I just don't see this current core getting anywhere
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 53
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I do, but I just don't see this current core getting anywhere


I agree that the Wild need to focus on plugging some important pieces in but ensuring they are 25 years old or younger. Retool on the fly, but plug in young guys to lead the team moving forward even at the expense of missing the playoffs a year or two in a row.
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 54
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I do, but I just don't see this current core getting anywhere


Yeah, but the ninth overall in this draft could be the next Bo Horvat. Add Kaprizov and Boldy, maybe Firstov . . .
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 56
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I agree that the Wild need to focus on plugging some important pieces in but ensuring they are 25 years old or younger. Retool on the fly, but plug in young guys to lead the team moving forward even at the expense of missing the playoffs a year or two in a row.


This right here is the problem. Our owner is hell-bent on the fact that our team is just a few tweaks away from a cup. He's been saying this to season ticket holders for like 10 years but nothing has changed. He doesn't want us to miss the playoffs and I can't see him being very comfortable with us missing them again. That being said, that's exactly what we need to do to get some high-end players in our system, particularly at center.
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 58
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Yeah, but the ninth overall in this draft could be the next Bo Horvat. Add Kaprizov and Boldy, maybe Firstov . . .


Unfortunately we need a Petterson, not a Horvat. We have our Horvat with Eriksson Ek. I'm hoping Rossi falls but knowing our luck we'll take the goalie and he's caught in a KGB firefight or something stupid like that...
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10 août 2020 à 18 h 59
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This right here is the problem. Our owner is hell-bent on the fact that our team is just a few tweaks away from a cup. He's been saying this to season ticket holders for like 10 years but nothing has changed. He doesn't want us to miss the playoffs and I can't see him being very comfortable with us missing them again. That being said, that's exactly what we need to do to get some high-end players in our system, particularly at center.


Strome for Brodin makes a lot of sense for both teams as long as brodin can be extended. Hawks would have to move Maatta or De Haan in order to accommodate the trade though. Would Minnesota want Maatta as part of the trade?
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10 août 2020 à 19 h 1
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Strome for Brodin makes a lot of sense for both teams as long as brodin can be extended. Hawks would have to move Maatta or De Haan in order to accommodate the trade though.


I agree. I've liked what I've seen from Strome during the play-ins. His skating is honestly worst than advertised which was already bad (straight line speed is good though to be fair), but he's extremely talented and he has really good vision/playmaking skill. I think of any of the perceived available centers, he's my favorite option.
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10 août 2020 à 19 h 3
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I agree. I've liked what I've seen from Strome during the play-ins. His skating is honestly worst than advertised which was already bad (straight line speed is good though to be fair), but he's extremely talented and he has really good vision/playmaking skill. I think of any of the perceived available centers, he's my favorite option.


What about Maatta and Strome for Brodin?
10 août 2020 à 19 h 5
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What about Maatta and Strome for Brodin?


I don't love it mainly because we'll need the cap to re-sign Kaprizov and Fiala, but it's possible we'd still have enough space. I'd have to make a Wild AGM to see how it would work. What do you think Strome deserves on a 5ish year deal
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Unfortunately we need a Petterson, not a Horvat. We have our Horvat with Eriksson Ek. I'm hoping Rossi falls but knowing our luck we'll take the goalie and he's caught in a KGB firefight or something stupid like that...


I think you're in the Holtz-Lundell-Perfetti-Quinn stratum. And one of the other teams may take Sanderson, Schneider or the Russian goalie.
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I think you're in the Holtz-Lundell-Perfetti-Quinn stratum. And one of the other teams may take Sanderson, Schneider or the Russian goalie.


I think a team will take Sanderson ahead of us, which assuming Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stuzle go top 3, and Drysdale goes top 5-7, we're guaranteed one of Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, or Holtz. I'd just take whichever one of those four falls to us.
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10 août 2020 à 19 h 39
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Unfortunately we need a Petterson, not a Horvat. We have our Horvat with Eriksson Ek. I'm hoping Rossi falls but knowing our luck we'll take the goalie and he's caught in a KGB firefight or something stupid like that...


We an Aho more than anything: a guy taken outside of the top 10 who panned out to be great.
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10 août 2020 à 20 h 3
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We an Aho more than anything: a guy taken outside of the top 10 who panned out to be great.


My money is on Khusnutdinov being that guy this year
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10 août 2020 à 20 h 38
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I don't love it mainly because we'll need the cap to re-sign Kaprizov and Fiala, but it's possible we'd still have enough space. I'd have to make a Wild AGM to see how it would work. What do you think Strome deserves on a 5ish year deal


I think you'd want to bridge Strome 3 x $4M. On a 5 year deal, maybe $5M? Maatta is a cheap buyout at $680K if in a year you want to buyout or expose him to seattle.
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10 août 2020 à 21 h 13
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I think you'd want to bridge Strome 3 x $4M. On a 5 year deal, maybe $5M? Maatta is a cheap buyout at $680K if in a year you want to buyout or expose him to seattle.


I think we'd want a bit more than what I have here if we had to take on Maatta, maybe upgrade the pick to PIT's 2nd. Brodin became a lot more important for us since Suter had to sit out of our last game
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I think a team will take Sanderson ahead of us, which assuming Lafreniere, Byfield, and Stuzle go top 3, and Drysdale goes top 5-7, we're guaranteed one of Perfetti, Rossi, Raymond, or Holtz. I'd just take whichever one of those four falls to us.


I've bought into the hype that Detroit takes Perfetti at 4.
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I've bought into the hype that Detroit takes Perfetti at 4.


I think they should take one of Perfetti, Rossi, or Raymond. They need an offensive dynamo to complement Larkin.
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10 août 2020 à 22 h 58
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I think we'd want a bit more than what I have here if we had to take on Maatta, maybe upgrade the pick to PIT's 2nd. Brodin became a lot more important for us since Suter had to sit out of our last game


Maatta doesn't have negative value and we can certainly move him. I was thinking the Wild would need him on the left side with Brodin gone and pretty sure he's a better option then Hunt.
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10 août 2020 à 23 h 1
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Maatta doesn't have negative value and we can certainly move him. I was thinking the Wild would need him on the left side with Brodin gone and pretty sure he's a better option then Hunt.


Like I said the big issue is the cap. We need money to pay Fiala, Ek will be due for a decent raise, and if Kaprizov lives up to the hype I could see him being in the ballpark of Fiala. Maybe we can find takers for Dubnyk and Pateryn but if not we'er kinda sol.
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10 août 2020 à 23 h 33
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Like I said the big issue is the cap. We need money to pay Fiala, Ek will be due for a decent raise, and if Kaprizov lives up to the hype I could see him being in the ballpark of Fiala. Maybe we can find takers for Dubnyk and Pateryn but if not we'er kinda sol.


Dubnyk is probably getting bought out, our goalies are gonna make like $2 million combined for at least two seasons if they go with Kahkonen and Stalock. Once Rask is off the books too there should be zero cap issues, and I assume a Zucc trade will be fully explored by that time too.
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Winnipeg would have a little less than zero interest in that deal.
 
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