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Is Pulock for Nylander fair

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    10 août 2020 à 13 h 14
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    Asking as a Leafs fan
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 15
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    Asking as a Leafs fan


    I think it’s a good concept, fair for both sides, but I’d rather marner and I bet the isles are the same way
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 16
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    I think Marner + Dermott for Pulock + NYI 1st next year (top-15 protected) would make more sense.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 16
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    I think it’s a good concept, fair for both sides, but I’d rather marner and I bet the isles are the same way


    The Isles can't afford him and I'd rather keep Marner but that's just me.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 17
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    Quoting: SammyT_51
    I think Marner + Dermott for Pulock + NYI 1st next year (top-15 protected) would make more sense.


    They can't afford Marner and I'd rather hold onto him. Besides I'd want Beauviller coming back with Pulock if Marner was going the other way
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 17
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    Quoting: firezfurx
    They can't afford Marner and I'd rather hold onto him. Besides I'd want Beauviller coming back with Pulock if Marner was going the other way


    Beauvillier is like 3rd liner on Leafs.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 17
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    I don't think the Islanders can afford Nylander. But yes, I think the value is right
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 18
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    Beauvillier is like 3rd liner on Leafs.


    He'd replace Nylander on the PP though
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 19
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    Quoting: firezfurx
    He'd replace Nylander on the PP though


    No he wont.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 19
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    Value-wise? Sure it's fair. As a hockey trade? Isles can't do it. We'd love Nylander, but if we lose Pulock our defense is screwed.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 20
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    Value-wise? Sure it's fair. As a hockey trade? Isles can't do it. We'd love Nylander, but if we lose Pulock our defense is screwed.


    Well what could we do to get Pulock? I've got Dermott on this trade but forgot to sign him. He can play 2nd paring minutes.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 21
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    Quoting: SammyT_51
    I think Marner + Dermott for Pulock + NYI 1st next year (top-15 protected) would make more sense.


    Quoting: firezfurx
    The Isles can't afford him and I'd rather keep Marner but that's just me.


    Firefurx has a hard on to move Nylander (that's a mistake) moving Marner would be the smart move says 1 very loud statement by Dubus and that's we'll pay you but if you cannot carry this team you'll be gone - Marner is getting carry a team single hand win a series money
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 22
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    Quoting: SammyT_51
    Beauvillier is like 3rd liner on Leafs.


    Beauvillier would put up 30 G , 60 pts in an offensive minded system.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 23
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    Quoting: Isles777
    Beauvillier would put up 30 G , 60 pts in an offensive minded system.


    Thats a huge if.
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 25
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    NO PULOCK IS MORE ESSENTIAL THAN NYLANDER
    NOW IF ITS MARNER WE MIGHT CONSIDER IT IF IT WAS NOT A FLAT CAP ERA
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 25
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    Thats a huge if.


    Not really. He was on a 22 G 47 pt pace in a system that stifles offense. He has a higher xGF% than Mikheyev and Johnson. He’s already a high end 2nd liner
    10 août 2020 à 13 h 27
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    Well what could we do to get Pulock? I've got Dermott on this trade but forgot to sign him. He can play 2nd paring minutes.


    Nothing. He's not going anywhere. Like I said, value-wise something around Nylander is fair (top-pairing defenseman for top-line forward), but I can't see any reason to trade Pulock. The only ridiculous thing I'd do that would only favor NYI is you took all our bad contracts (Ladd, Boychuk, Komarov) and gave us Nylander and Liljegren. But since what I'm asking is absolutely ridiculous and completely unrealistic, you should probably not even try getting Pulock.
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    10 août 2020 à 13 h 35
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    its fair but Isles have no need for it. Pulock is one of those underated 2-way RHD. They really got nobody to replace him and with Barzels extension coming i think they would prefer to extend Pulock.
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    10 août 2020 à 13 h 41
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    Quoting: linehan10
    I think it’s a good concept, fair for both sides, but I’d rather marner and I bet the isles are the same way


    I’d rather Nylander, I’d do the trade
    10 août 2020 à 15 h 42
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    No isles do not trade Pulock for Nylander.
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    10 août 2020 à 17 h 40
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    Nothing. He's not going anywhere. Like I said, value-wise something around Nylander is fair (top-pairing defenseman for top-line forward), but I can't see any reason to trade Pulock. The only ridiculous thing I'd do that would only favor NYI is you took all our bad contracts (Ladd, Boychuk, Komarov) and gave us Nylander and Liljegren. But since what I'm asking is absolutely ridiculous and completely unrealistic, you should probably not even try getting Pulock.


    Just piggy backing your thought.
    Even if you thinkits ok value its not a deal the Islanders should make. Mayfield may play over 20 minutes a night but I wouldnt put him on the top pairing. Niether could you put Boychuk(injuries/age) or Dobson(lack of experience). Trading Pulock is not an option the Islanders can entertain this offseason or until Dobson can prove hes ready. The Islanders are better off looking to move Leddy for picks and improve from within.
    10 août 2020 à 17 h 49
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    Just piggy backing your thought.
    Even if you thinkits ok value its not a deal the Islanders should make. Mayfield may play over 20 minutes a night but I wouldnt put him on the top pairing. Niether could you put Boychuk(injuries/age) or Dobson(lack of experience). Trading Pulock is not an option the Islanders can entertain this offseason or until Dobson can prove hes ready. The Islanders are better off looking to move Leddy for picks and improve from within.


    I completely agree. If Dobson came into the NHL and all the sudden he was Alex Pietrangelo, I'd think about moving Pulock. And while Dobson has shown a ton of positives in his first season, he can't handle top-pairing minutes starting next year.

    Basically, we'd have to trade Pulock and all our bad contracts, but also sign Pietrangelo or Barrie (to a cheap deal). Pulock is as close to elite as you can get without actually being elite. I'm not moving him so fast.
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