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I saw a trade yesterday that seemed to be liked by both CHI and EDM fans in which the 1st OA and Neal were traded for DeBrincat, Strome, 17th OA and a bottom 6 player.
Domi = Strome + bottom 6 player
16th OA roughly = 17th OA
11th OA + 46th OA + Tatar = DeBrincat (maybe even more imo).
Transactions
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MTL
  1. Turris, Kyle
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
Détails additionnels:
11th OA for one of the worst contracts in the league. Will help NAS making a splash on the RFA or UFA market
NSH
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
2.
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  1. Neal, James
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
1st OA
EDM
  1. Domi, Max
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NSH)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
11th, 16th and 46th OA
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10 août 2020 à 8 h 38
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I’m not against idea of trading down for oilers but I wouldn’t have any interest in adding domi to oilers. No offence to domi just not a good fit.
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I’m not against idea of trading down for oilers but I wouldn’t have any interest in adding domi to oilers. No offence to domi just not a good fit.


Would you like a solid dmen instead or just another forward? I could change it and make a separate Domi trade before trading you back the player acquired in it. What about Brodin, Ehlers (but remove the second since Id have to add it to Domi) or DeAngelo?
10 août 2020 à 8 h 42
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If that’s what it takes, gimme Laffy. Also, retain on Turris if it’s going to be a second rounder
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10 août 2020 à 9 h 4
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Would you like a solid dmen instead or just another forward? I could change it and make a separate Domi trade before trading you back the player acquired in it. What about Brodin, Ehlers (but remove the second since Id have to add it to Domi) or DeAngelo?

Hmm. Habs are a little tougher than hawks. I didn’t come up with that trade but did post it and ran with it because I really liked it.
1 top six LW Drouin or Tatar (ability to speak with Tatar agent before hand discuss extension only include if that can be done at a reasonable comparable contract to Drouin.)
1 3c that is young and team control over which in habs case KK might be only real option.
For starters then can negotiate picks or prospects habs have a good goalie prospect if include him might be willing to accept a 2nd if not then your first.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 10
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Hmm. Habs are a little tougher than hawks. I didn’t come up with that trade but did post it and ran with it because I really liked it.
1 top six LW Drouin or Tatar (ability to speak with Tatar agent before hand discuss extension only include if that can be done at a reasonable comparable contract to Drouin.)
1 3c that is young and team control over which in habs case KK might be only real option.
For starters then can negotiate picks or prospects habs have a good goalie prospect if include him might be willing to accept a 2nd if not then your first.


Theres a huge huge difference between KK and Strome... Plus you guys need wingers way more than C tbh. Tatar, Ehlers, 11th and 16th OA is a pretty amazing offer tbh. Youd draft Askarov at 11 and a guy like Jarvis, Gunler or Lapierre at 16th.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 12
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Believe me, I really like Laffy. I would really like him in MTL. Though, I'm not sure taking on Turris' horrible deal is a good idea. We already have a logjam at center, and we would have to trade our whole team next year to be able to resign Suzuki and KK. I would rather give up another guy like Drouin (who is also a LW) than taking on Turris' contract. We could sign a LW UFA for the next 3 years, so until Laffy's contract is over.

Edit : Samething with James Neal. The guy won't have the stats he had last year with MTL, he may not even be a top6 forward.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 16
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Believe me, I really like Laffy. I would really like him in MTL. Though, I'm not sure taking on Turris' horrible deal is a good idea. We already have a logjam at center, and we would have to trade our whole team next year to be able to resign Suzuki and KK. I would rather give up another guy like Drouin (who is also a LW) than taking on Turris' contract. We could sign a LW UFA for the next 3 years, so until Laffy's contract is over.


Yeah but no UFA LW will sign for less than Drouin... 5,5 isnt a lot tbh. This NAS deal may be a bit one sided for NAS. Because of the 2nd they might have to retain 1m or 1,5 especially when you consider the prize paid by the leafs to get rid of one year of Marleau
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Yeah but no UFA LW will sign for less than Drouin... 5,5 isnt a lot tbh. This NAS deal may be a bit one sided for NAS. Because of the 2nd they might have to retain 1m or 1,5 especially when you consider the prize paid by the leafs to get rid of one year of Marleau


True, but that means we would really not be competitive in the next few years. We couldn't afford keeping Petry nor Gallagher (as well as Armia and Lehkonen). As well enter in a total "reset" and also trade Price and Weber...
10 août 2020 à 9 h 21
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True, but that means we would really not be competitive in the next few years. We couldn't afford keeping Petry nor Gallagher (as well as Armia and Lehkonen). As well enter in a total "reset" and also trade Price and Weber...


Then forget the Turris trade and replace the 11th OA with an unprotected 2021 first
10 août 2020 à 9 h 23
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Then forget the Turris trade and replace the 11th OA with an unprotected 2021 first


At that price, I would rather draft a guy like Jarvis, Holloway or Reichel.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 32
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Theres a huge huge difference between KK and Strome... Plus you guys need wingers way more than C tbh. Tatar, Ehlers, 11th and 16th OA is a pretty amazing offer tbh. Youd draft Askarov at 11 and a guy like Jarvis, Gunler or Lapierre at 16th.


I’m not against that trade completely don’t really need two top six wingers
Tatar mcdavid Jp
Nuge Leon yam
Really do need a 3c that’s toughest part with habs don’t really have the ideal one. Danault would be perfect if had term but I think he’s going to price himself out too fast.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 41
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I’m not against that trade completely don’t really need two top six wingers
Tatar mcdavid Jp
Nuge Leon yam
Really do need a 3c that’s toughest part with habs don’t really have the ideal one. Danault would be perfect if had term but I think he’s going to price himself out too fast.


The only thing with Danault is that since he played on our 1st line during a few years, you would need to pay him at least 6mil per year, which is a lot for a 3rd c.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 46
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At that price, I would rather draft a guy like Jarvis, Holloway or Reichel.


Man idk... We have too much of thise ok guys. We need a franchise player, you know a Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon, Kane.... Doesnt matter the price as long as we dont create too big of a hole in the lineup.

Laf-Suzuki-Caufield
Drouin-KK-Armia
Lehky-Danault-Gally
Byron-Evans-Poehling

Chiarot-Weber
Romanov-Petry
Norlinder-Fleury

Is a hell of a lineup tbh.
10 août 2020 à 9 h 56
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I’m not against that trade completely don’t really need two top six wingers
Tatar mcdavid Jp
Nuge Leon yam
Really do need a 3c that’s toughest part with habs don’t really have the ideal one. Danault would be perfect if had term but I think he’s going to price himself out too fast.


What about Nuge as your 3C. That would create 3 highly skilled lines which is what most teams nowadays are looking for.

Tatar-McD-Chiasson
Ehlers-Drai-Yam
Athanasiou-Nuge-JP

Or Domi of course.
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Man idk... We have too much of thise ok guys. We need a franchise player, you know a Matthews, Eichel, MacKinnon, Kane.... Doesnt matter the price as long as we dont create too big of a hole in the lineup.

Laf-Suzuki-Caufield
Drouin-KK-Armia
Lehky-Danault-Gally
Byron-Evans-Poehling

Chiarot-Weber
Romanov-Petry
Norlinder-Fleury

Is a hell of a lineup tbh.


This lineup makes me dream. But with the acquisition of Turris and Neal, forget it. It's sure that 2 of Danault, Gallagher and Petry (or maybe the 3) are gone. I will trust Bergevin. If he wants to move, let's do it, but I don't want us to be a team that is the leader in the run for the 1st ovr pick for 3-4 years, like the Oilers were.
10 août 2020 à 10 h 33
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What about Nuge as your 3C. That would create 3 highly skilled lines which is what most teams nowadays are looking for.

Tatar-McD-Chiasson
Ehlers-Drai-Yam
Athanasiou-Nuge-JP

Or Domi of course.

Nuge wouldn’t do as 3c because he complements mcdavid and Leon perfectly also don’t want 3 lines commanding that much ice time. Will result in reducing mcdavid or Leon’s ice time or your about to be giving the 3c 7+ million extension that’s only on the ice 14 minutes if lucky a night. Ehlers as much as I do like him is a luxury I can’t justify affording. Ideally a responsible 3c that can win faceoffs and replace sheahan on pk that’s reasonably cheap is next piece needed.
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This lineup makes me dream. But with the acquisition of Turris and Neal, forget it. It's sure that 2 of Danault, Gallagher and Petry (or maybe the 3) are gone. I will trust Bergevin. If he wants to move, let's do it, but I don't want us to be a team that is the leader in the run for the 1st ovr pick for 3-4 years, like the Oilers were.


Forget turris, if we do Tatar, Domi, 16th, 46th and 2021 first it works as well.
10 août 2020 à 10 h 41
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I’m not against idea of trading down for oilers but I wouldn’t have any interest in adding domi to oilers. No offence to domi just not a good fit.


Why do you think Domi wouldn't be a good fit?
10 août 2020 à 11 h 2
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Why do you think Domi wouldn't be a good fit?


If he has any desire to play C that’s just not happening.
I would much rather Tatar or Drouin because I could easily see Tatar’s skill and smarts being explosive next to mcdavid. Drouin I might get some heat for it but I think has more raw skill than domi and would gell with Leon and yam better than domi. I personally don’t think he would fit in either of those lines as well and having nuge already in the mix provides the C flexibility in the event of an injury. Drouin has decent term it’s not too long if doesn’t work out. Tatar we will be able to watch before offering an extension. Domi worries me because not only do I have doubts he might not mesh in as well but will likely be a longer term investment while very likely being the most expensive of the three.
10 août 2020 à 11 h 9
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If he has any desire to play C that’s just not happening.
I would much rather Tatar or Drouin because I could easily see Tatar’s skill and smarts being explosive next to mcdavid. Drouin I might get some heat for it but I think has more raw skill than domi and would gell with Leon and yam better than domi. I personally don’t think he would fit in either of those lines as well and having nuge already in the mix provides the C flexibility in the event of an injury. Drouin has decent term it’s not too long if doesn’t work out. Tatar we will be able to watch before offering an extension. Domi worries me because not only do I have doubts he might not mesh in as well but will likely be a longer term investment while very likely being the most expensive of the three.


What if I add Poehling in the mix?
10 août 2020 à 11 h 9
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If he has any desire to play C that’s just not happening.
I would much rather Tatar or Drouin because I could easily see Tatar’s skill and smarts being explosive next to mcdavid. Drouin I might get some heat for it but I think has more raw skill than domi and would gell with Leon and yam better than domi. I personally don’t think he would fit in either of those lines as well and having nuge already in the mix provides the C flexibility in the event of an injury. Drouin has decent term it’s not too long if doesn’t work out. Tatar we will be able to watch before offering an extension. Domi worries me because not only do I have doubts he might not mesh in as well but will likely be a longer term investment while very likely being the most expensive of the three.

Tatar and Drouin both have far less value than Domi though - Tatar due to age and contract status and Drouin due to ability and drive. If you don't like Domi than you flip him for someone you do like, you don't take a lesser player instead.
10 août 2020 à 11 h 17
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Tatar and Drouin both have far less value than Domi though - Tatar due to age and contract status and Drouin due to ability and drive. If you don't like Domi than you flip him for someone you do like, you don't take a lesser player instead.


It’s not really about value to me here it’s about finding the best possible fits. Personally I think tatar can provide another 3-4 years of excellent hockey next to mcdavid. Drouin would be an ideal option next to leon. The value difference can become compensated with picks or other assets. I wouldn’t cry if domi went to Edmonton but I wouldn’t feel as confident about results of investment. Could flip him elsewhere but I honestly think tatar or Drouin are the perfect targets and would fit in magically.
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10 août 2020 à 11 h 21
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What if I add Poehling in the mix?


Honestly haven’t watched enough of him close enough to say if interested.
10 août 2020 à 11 h 22
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It’s not really about value to me here it’s about finding the best possible fits. Personally I think tatar can provide another 3-4 years of excellent hockey next to mcdavid. Drouin would be an ideal option next to leon. The value difference can become compensated with picks or other assets. I wouldn’t cry if domi went to Edmonton but I wouldn’t feel as confident about results of investment. Could flip him elsewhere but I honestly think tatar or Drouin are the perfect targets and would fit in magically.


Doesn't work for me. I'd rather see Lafreniere provide 15 years of excellent hockey next to McDavid than have Tatar and a bunch of prospects.
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Man, forget it. Lehkonen's goal sealed the deal, Lafrenière will not be a Hab.
 
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