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Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 7 août 2020
Publié: 7 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
21 500 000 $
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WPG
  1. Dzingel, Ryan
  2. Pesce, Brett
  3. Suzuki, Ryan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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7 août 2020 à 9 h 56
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Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.
7 août 2020 à 9 h 57
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Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.


I'm pretty sure he's just looking. CAR would need to add Suzuki or Bokk if you wanted to shed Gardiner for the Hawks Best RD.
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7 août 2020 à 9 h 59
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I'm pretty sure he's just looking. CAR would need to add Suzuki or Bokk if you wanted to shed Gardiner for the Hawks Best RD.


Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him
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7 août 2020 à 9 h 59
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Carolina might do Pesce for Connor 1 for 1, this is a joke.


trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1
7 août 2020 à 10 h 1
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Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him


Thats fine. Just hoping the Hawks don't trade for Gardiner...at all. His 13 ATOI, zero points, and Minus one against the Rangers isn't exactly screaming quality player.
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 1
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Quoting: Teemu_salami
trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1


yeah that was my thought process. If Pesce was a 40pt player, i think it could work. But Winnipeg probably asks for more
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 1
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trade is fair pesce plays on the same core as slavin and is not worth connor 1 for 1


Pesce is worth Nylander 1 for 1, Nylander > Connor
7 août 2020 à 10 h 2
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Thats fine. Just hoping the Hawks don't trade for Gardiner...at all. His 13 ATOI, zero points, and Minus one against the Rangers isn't exactly screaming quality player.


His xGF, xGA and the fact he was on the ice for 1 whole goal against this series suggests otherwise. He's been great. He's been unlucky offensively, but him and Fleury were great defensively.
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Pesce is worth Nylander 1 for 1, Nylander > Connor


You just don't know who Kyle Connor OR Slick Willy are.
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 6
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You just don't know who Kyle Connor OR Slick Willy are.


I 100% do. I don't think people understand how good Brett Pesce is. Analytically, only 1 defender in the NHL is better in his own zone, and Nik Hjalmerssen is a cheat code defensively. His xGF and offesnive analytics make him all around a top 10 RHD, and a top 15 D overall. He's worth Nylander or Connor.

You're gonna say "oH sLaViN" Slavin plays with Dougie Hamilton, Pesce carries his own pairing, playing with noted black hole Joel Edmundson
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 7
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His xGF, xGA and the fact he was on the ice for 1 whole goal against this series suggests otherwise. He's been great. He's been unlucky offensively, but him and Fleury were great defensively.


You'd think if he was SOO good he'd turn the ice once or twice, but the minus one means that he was NEVER on the ice the any goals for either.
7 août 2020 à 10 h 8
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I 100% do. I don't think people understand how good Brett Pesce is. Analytically, only 1 defender in the NHL is better in his own zone, and Nik Hjalmerssen is a cheat code defensively. His xGF and offesnive analytics make him all around a top 10 RHD, and a top 15 D overall. He's worth Nylander or Connor.

You're gonna say "oH sLaViN" Slavin plays with Dougie Hamilton, Pesce carries his own pairing, playing with noted black hole Joel Edmundson


I agree with you on Pesce. He's a stud and on a good contract. I dont AT ALL agree Nylander > Connor.
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 8
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You'd think if he was SOO good he'd turn the ice once or twice, but the minus one means that he was NEVER on the ice the any goals for either.


You realise that 75% of Carolina's scoring in this series came from 2 players right? Gardiner not being on the ice with Aho or Svechnikov isn't a surprise
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 9
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You realise that 75% of Carolina's scoring in this series came from 2 players right? Gardiner not being on the ice with Aho or Svechnikov isn't a surprise


I do
7 août 2020 à 10 h 9
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I agree with you on Pesce. He's a stud and on a good contract. I dont AT ALL agree Nylander > Connor.


Connor is overrated, he doesn't do defense. His offense outside of his shot is kind of average as well. His skating is decent, not great, his passing is adequate. I think Nylander is just better.
7 août 2020 à 10 h 10
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I do


Kind of sums up why the rest of the team had 2 3 goals all series. When there's only 3 goals, it's not a shock he wasn't on the ice *at even strength* for them. He was for a PP goal, but obviously, +/- is only ES
7 août 2020 à 10 h 34
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Kind of sums up why the rest of the team had 2 3 goals all series. When there's only 3 goals, it's not a shock he wasn't on the ice *at even strength* for them. He was for a PP goal, but obviously, +/- is only ES


Yeah.... and you appear to be bragging about this?
7 août 2020 à 10 h 35
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Connor is overrated, he doesn't do defense. His offense outside of his shot is kind of average as well. His skating is decent, not great, his passing is adequate. I think Nylander is just better.


Nylander players ZERO defense. He's less physical than Kane, Less Physical and Johnny hockey. Not suggesting hits are the only kind of physicality, BUT absolute truth here...he has less career hits than Kubalik...in his rookie year....in this shortened season....when he got 8-10 ATOI at the beginning of the season. It's a joke how little defense Nylander plays. I would NOT do a Pesce Nylander 1 for 1 trade. TOR needs to send more.
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 36
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Yeah.... and you appear to be bragging about this?


No. Just saying that trying to use a -1 to say he's not a good player when his team has 2 players responsible for all but 3 goals is kind of a reach
7 août 2020 à 10 h 37
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No. Just saying that trying to use a -1 to say he's not a good player when his team has 2 players responsible for all but 3 goals is kind of a reach


He's not a good player because he played ZERO defense for TOR too.
7 août 2020 à 10 h 38
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Nylander players ZERO defense. He's less physical than Kane, Less Physical and Johnny hockey. Not suggesting hits are the only kind of physicality, BUT absolute truth here...he has less career hits than Kubalik...in his rookie year....in this shortened season....when he got 8-10 ATOI at the beginning of the season. It's a joke how little defense Nylander plays. I would NOT do a Pesce Nylander 1 for 1 trade. TOR needs to send more.


Oh, you dislike Nylander, not like Connor, that makes far more sense.

I agree with everything you said, but Nylander does defence. His positioning in his own zone is naturally better than most forwards, he's usually not one to open a bakery and start dishing out turnovers. And he's always going to be overvalued because he's a 60 point forward playing in Toronto. I would ideally want Nylander + for Pesce, but saying that on here is like going into a school mirror and saying "beetlejuice" three times
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7 août 2020 à 10 h 39
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He's not a good player because he played ZERO defense for TOR too.


I disagree with that. For years he was their best defenceman in his own zone. Right up until they got Muzzin. He's better analytically speaking at least, than Rielly or anyone else they had which isn't a highbar but still.
7 août 2020 à 11 h 32
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Then don't. Gardiner is not a cap dump, and it's more than possible to get a positive return for him


I don’t think people will want his contract after a poor regular season and incomplete playoffs. If you think he has positive value, fine. However there is absolutely, positively, NO-WAY. That he gets you Murphy from Chicago. You absolutely must add a top prospect like bean or Suzuki.
7 août 2020 à 11 h 38
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I don’t think people will want his contract after a poor regular season and incomplete playoffs. If you think he has positive value, fine. However there is absolutely, positively, NO-WAY. That he gets you Murphy from Chicago. You absolutely must add a top prospect like bean or Suzuki.


Thinking Murphy is worth Suzuki is laughable.

As for Gardiner, he didn't even have a bad season. He was on pace to break the 30 point mark, and he had a PDO so bad that there's either a bridge of ladders he walks under every day, or a path of cracked mirrors. Gardiner was SO unlucky offensively, because he did generate a lot. He was victim to the depth not being able to finish ANYTHING.
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7 août 2020 à 11 h 53
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Thinking Murphy is worth Suzuki is laughable.

As for Gardiner, he didn't even have a bad season. He was on pace to break the 30 point mark, and he had a PDO so bad that there's either a bridge of ladders he walks under every day, or a path of cracked mirrors. Gardiner was SO unlucky offensively, because he did generate a lot. He was victim to the depth not being able to finish ANYTHING.

If he’s so good, I recommend you keep him. He can’t be unlucky all of the time, can he?
 
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