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Would you trade from 1 to 3 in draft

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Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 5 août 2020
Publié: 5 août 2020
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RFAANSCAP HIT
42 250 000 $
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Byfield, Quinton
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Mysak, Jan
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Guhle, Kaiden
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Lapierre, Hendrix
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NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
Détails additionnels:
3OA; mid- to late-first round pick (NYI); 33rd overall (I think?)
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
1OA
2.
NYR
  1. Borgström, Henrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (FLA)
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NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
DET
  1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
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NYR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (STL)
STL
  1. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
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RFA - 2
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UFA - 1
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C, AG
UFA - 1
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UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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DG
RFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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5 août 2020 à 9 h 53
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Borgstrom is in the same category as Lias, at this point . Sort of a bust pick looking for a change of scenery.

While the mid 1st is nice, giving up both DeAngelo and Buchnevich for for that pick and a player we could basically swap Lias for isn't worth it.
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5 août 2020 à 9 h 59
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They’re sayingLafreniere has the potential of McDavid but on the wing... you’d need to get both Ottawa picks 3+5... Generational talent should get you 2 elite players or potential players. If you can get Raymond and Rossi possibly, sure you’d consider that... but NYR RW depth isn’t good. Kakko can be very good, Kravtsov has not played in the NHL Yet. Not easy to just have him play top line his first year. Buch needs to stay at least one more season or one more deadline. I really do not want to be here as a fan for the potential of Buchnevich to become the JT Miller of another team.
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5 août 2020 à 10 h 1
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Ottawa accepts but its the SJ pick thats 3rd overall not the Ottawa pick
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5 août 2020 à 10 h 3
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Quoting: csick
Ottawa accepts but its the SJ pick thats 3rd overall not the Ottawa pick


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5 août 2020 à 10 h 4
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Quoting: Shakabakes
Borgstrom is in the same category as Lias, at this point . Sort of a bust pick looking for a change of scenery.

While the mid 1st is nice, giving up both DeAngelo and Buchnevich for for that pick and a player we could basically swap Lias for isn't worth it.


True, that was a hard one to assess. Maybe a 1st + a 3rd + Borgstrom?
5 août 2020 à 10 h 5
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They’re sayingLafreniere has the potential of McDavid but on the wing... you’d need to get both Ottawa picks 3+5... Generational talent should get you 2 elite players or potential players. If you can get Raymond and Rossi possibly, sure you’d consider that... but NYR RW depth isn’t good. Kakko can be very good, Kravtsov has not played in the NHL Yet. Not easy to just have him play top line his first year. Buch needs to stay at least one more season or one more deadline. I really do not want to be here as a fan for the potential of Buchnevich to become the JT Miller of another team.


That's my dream scenario, I just don't think OTT would do it because I think they really want a shot at Drysdale. If it were to happen, Raymond + Rossi would be intriguing, but I'd really love Byfield + Sanderson or Byfield + Raymond.
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5 août 2020 à 10 h 8
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For fun I did a little exercise.
In this scenario, NYR will pick #3, #21 (NYI current standings in league) and #33, OTT gets #1.

2015; McDavid vs Eichel draft
OTT get McDavid
NYR get D. Strome, Colin White and Mitchell Stephens.

2016; Matthews vs Laine
OTT get Matthews
NYR get PL Dubois, Julien Gauthier and Rasmus Asplund

2017; Hischier vs Patrick
OTT get Hishier
NYR get Heiskanen, Chytil and Kole Lind

2018; Dahlin vs Svechnikov
OTT get Dahlin
NYR get Kotkaniemi, Ryan Merkley and Jonatan Berggren

Id feel safer keeping #1OA (although the trade wouldve helped in 2017)
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5 août 2020 à 10 h 37
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That's my dream scenario, I just don't think OTT would do it because I think they really want a shot at Drysdale. If it were to happen, Raymond + Rossi would be intriguing, but I'd really love Byfield + Sanderson or Byfield + Raymond.


That’s totally fair, but it’s very likely NYR would only do it if they got 3+5... you don’t give up a chance at a generational talent unless the return is worth it. Also another thing, Lafreniere has C ability on the wing... can score and pass which in essence nullifies that NEED of another C. He makes the ability to have a 1 C and two 2/3Cs bc he can make those plays. They have a 1 in Zib, Strome before Panarin was on pace for 43... Panarin made him on pace for 70... will that continue? We can hope, but did that price Strome out of NY? When Zib is up for an extension, if healthy he will get a Panarin like deal IF the cap goes up after the country settles down with the outbreak...
Lafreniere would put CK on 3rd line within 3 years at $6.75M...
5 août 2020 à 10 h 48
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Blues have no interest in/cap for that.
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5 août 2020 à 11 h 27
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Panthers have no interest in deangelo. They don’t need anymore defensive liabilities on d
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5 août 2020 à 11 h 31
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Is that deal meant to be for the Blues or just any team for a 3rd?
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5 août 2020 à 12 h 47
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Is that deal meant to be for the Blues or just any team for a 3rd?


Any. Just want Strome out of NY lol
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That’s totally fair, but it’s very likely NYR would only do it if they got 3+5... you don’t give up a chance at a generational talent unless the return is worth it. Also another thing, Lafreniere has C ability on the wing... can score and pass which in essence nullifies that NEED of another C. He makes the ability to have a 1 C and two 2/3Cs bc he can make those plays. They have a 1 in Zib, Strome before Panarin was on pace for 43... Panarin made him on pace for 70... will that continue? We can hope, but did that price Strome out of NY? When Zib is up for an extension, if healthy he will get a Panarin like deal IF the cap goes up after the country settles down with the outbreak...
Lafreniere would put CK on 3rd line within 3 years at $6.75M...


That's true, I just worry the Rangers will get bullied without a good second line center. But if Lafreniere can carry a second line like that, I'm down.
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5 août 2020 à 12 h 51
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For fun I did a little exercise.
In this scenario, NYR will pick #3, #21 (NYI current standings in league) and #33, OTT gets #1.

2015; McDavid vs Eichel draft
OTT get McDavid
NYR get D. Strome, Colin White and Mitchell Stephens.

2016; Matthews vs Laine
OTT get Matthews
NYR get PL Dubois, Julien Gauthier and Rasmus Asplund

2017; Hischier vs Patrick
OTT get Hishier
NYR get Heiskanen, Chytil and Kole Lind

2018; Dahlin vs Svechnikov
OTT get Dahlin
NYR get Kotkaniemi, Ryan Merkley and Jonatan Berggren

Id feel safer keeping #1OA (although the trade wouldve helped in 2017)


Those are some good points... I know it gets dicey when you trade down for need, especially from 1OA with such a generational talent. I just think the Rangers are so bad at center right now as an organization. But as someone else mentioned on here, I'd hope that Lafreniere and Kakko could carry a second line the way CHI had combinations of Sharp/Kane/Hossa/Saad/Panarin to carry their second line without a real strong center.
5 août 2020 à 14 h 10
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Any. Just want Strome out of NY lol


ok that makes sense, Blues don't have the center needs or cap space for that move but it's reasonable for plugging any team into
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5 août 2020 à 17 h 35
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Wings agree IF pick is conditional on gorgeiv performance & games played in Detroit..otherwose straight up .. Caps pick or 3rd sorry..our picks are top of round & too valuable ..& we need draft swings badly
5 août 2020 à 20 h 6
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If you’re looking to have a stopgap at 3C until Barron is ready and take D-zone shifts away from Byfield, I’m a proponent of the Andersson for Bozak deal.
 
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