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Créé par: jonnymc26
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2020
Publié: 4 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
to Buffalo-- Strome and 14th pick (Mercer)
to Chicago-- Andersson and 8th pick (Holtz)
to New York --9th pick (rossi), Pilut and buf & chi 5th round picks
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 000 000 $
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21 000 000 $
43 500 000 $
43 800 000 $
33 800 000 $
33 000 000 $
3950 000 $
Transactions
1.
BUF
  1. Strome, Dylan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Détails additionnels:
9th to nyr
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
8th holtz
2.
BUF
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Pilut, Lawrence [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
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RFA - 1
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
C
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
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4 août 2020 à 13 h 29
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If Rossi is there the hawks take him and don't bother with this garbage trade. Rossi won't be there but if he is that's a home run pick. this trade sucks for Chicago. We give up Strome and a 5th just to move up 1 spot In the draft and get Lias Anderson. Horrible for the hawks. Lias Anderson has almost 0 value
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4 août 2020 à 13 h 30
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I’m not understanding why we are giving up Strome to move up 1 spot/ get a Bust?
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4 août 2020 à 13 h 35
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Why dont we just stay where we are (8oa) and draft holtz/rossi/perfetti? Dropping 5 places in the draft isnt enough value by itself to pick up a decent middle 6 center, and it drops our chances on hitting on our pick. Which is important when you have a rookie gm, NO scouts, and the worst player development in the league
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4 août 2020 à 13 h 39
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This doesn't make sense. Why is Chicago giving up so much to move up 1 spot?

I also don't understand the NYR trade. You move down for nothing?

Quoting: sabres89
Why dont we just stay where we are (8oa) and draft holtz/rossi/perfetti? Dropping 5 places in the draft isnt enough value by itself to pick up a decent middle 6 center, and it drops our chances on hitting on our pick. Which is important when you have a rookie gm, NO scouts, and the worst player development in the league


Rossi and Perfetti will be long gone at that pick.
4 août 2020 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Wadejos123
If Rossi is there the hawks take him and don't bother with this garbage trade. Rossi won't be there but if he is that's a home run pick. this trade sucks for Chicago. We give up Strome and a 5th just to move up 1 spot In the draft and get Lias Anderson. Horrible for the hawks. Lias Anderson has almost 0 value


Quoting: Stan_Bowman
I’m not understanding why we are giving up Strome to move up 1 spot/ get a Bust?


anderson is not a bust believe it or not he is still a top prospect. he just for what ever reason has a beef with nyr, so it makes his only value to them be in a trade. the reason i have chi even trading strome is cap space. chi has 42m$ commited before having to sign Strome and Kubalik so saving a few m$ in a flat cap has its value too.
4 août 2020 à 13 h 53
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Quoting: sabres89
Why dont we just stay where we are (8oa) and draft holtz/rossi/perfetti? Dropping 5 places in the draft isnt enough value by itself to pick up a decent middle 6 center, and it drops our chances on hitting on our pick. Which is important when you have a rookie gm, NO scouts, and the worst player development in the league


having a legit middle 6 center will help the team for years. regardless of who you draft and where its always a gamble. also i dont see anyone other then top 3 picks playing next year so if team still have that need to make playoffs mentality this is a helpful move.
4 août 2020 à 13 h 55
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This doesn't make sense. Why is Chicago giving up so much to move up 1 spot?

I also don't understand the NYR trade. You move down for nothing?

Rossi and Perfetti will be long gone at that pick.


i just used https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2020/
all the player mentioned were no more then 1 spot away from where i said
4 août 2020 à 13 h 58
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anderson is not a bust believe it or not he is still a top prospect. he just for what ever reason has a beef with nyr, so it makes his only value to them be in a trade. the reason i have chi even trading strome is cap space. chi has 42m$ commited before having to sign Strome and Kubalik so saving a few m$ in a flat cap has its value too.


Seems like we could get a better haul for Strome that what is being proposed here. Seems like very poor asset management.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 0
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Quoting: jonnymc26
i just used https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2020/
all the player mentioned were no more then 1 spot away from where i said


Holtz is way higher on this list than other sites I've seen.

I can't see NJD drafting Holtz over Rossi. Heck I'd even prefer the Sens take Rossi over Raymond.

Personally I see Rossi going at 4 and Perfetti going at 7 then Holtz going at 8.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 3
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Yeah this doesn't make sense for Chicago.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 6
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Yeah this doesn't make sense for Chicago.


cap space, top prospect and slightly better pick. that's what chi town gets back in order of importance.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Holtz is way higher on this list than other sites I've seen.

I can't see NJD drafting Holtz over Rossi. Heck I'd even prefer the Sens take Rossi over Raymond.

Personally I see Rossi going at 4 and Perfetti going at 7 then Holtz going at 8.


Every year there seems to be a wild card
4 août 2020 à 14 h 11
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Seems like we could get a better haul for Strome that what is being proposed here. Seems like very poor asset management.


its just a trade scenario but if i was a betting man i would say that strome isnt back on the team next year and they spend the money on Kubalik. flat cap is going to cause alot of good players to have to be moved in for assets and prospects that dont hurt cap space.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: jonnymc26
cap space, top prospect and slightly better pick. that's what chi town gets back in order of importance.


uh.... the cost of moving from pick 9 to pick 8 is about pick 100,...

https://bluebulletreport.com/2019/06/05/2018-19-draft-model-update-part-iii-blue-bullet-draft-pick-value-chart/

Chicago can just give you a late 3rd, Deal Strome for a late 1st anyway in a separate deal, and you'd be dumb not to take it as Buffalo. That's about how far off this deal is.
4 août 2020 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: jonnymc26
its just a trade scenario but if i was a betting man i would say that strome isnt back on the team next year and they spend the money on Kubalik. flat cap is going to cause alot of good players to have to be moved in for assets and prospects that dont hurt cap space.

What I’m saying is that this deal isn’t a good way to move Strome. If we wanted to move up I’d probably say a couple picks could do it, no need to give away Strome for what we’re getting.
4 août 2020 à 18 h 51
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Quoting: jonnymc26
anderson is not a bust believe it or not he is still a top prospect. he just for what ever reason has a beef with nyr, so it makes his only value to them be in a trade. the reason i have chi even trading strome is cap space. chi has 42m$ commited before having to sign Strome and Kubalik so saving a few m$ in a flat cap has its value too.


This trade is awful. Defending it by saying Lias Anderson is a top prospect and we sell low on one of our better forwards because we need cap space is even worse
5 août 2020 à 12 h 25
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This trade is awful. Defending it by saying Lias Anderson is a top prospect and we sell low on one of our better forwards because we need cap space is even worse


saying a prospect is good and pointing out you dont have cap space just makes you feel worse it makes the trade better.
5 août 2020 à 18 h 52
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saying a prospect is good and pointing out you dont have cap space just makes you feel worse it makes the trade better.


Lias sucks
6 août 2020 à 13 h 0
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6 août 2020 à 13 h 9
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the elite prospects stuff is dated 2017, nice try though. Dobber pretty much calls his ceiling a middle 6 forward and that's IF you can get him back to North America. Very easily could be a bust too lol
 
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