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Créé par: Stones6160
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 4 août 2020
Publié: 4 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 300 000 $
35 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
37 000 000 $
33 700 000 $
11 100 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)
2.
TOR
  1. Marino, John [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rust, Bryan
PIT
  1. Marner, Mitchell (800 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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2021
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $81 406 783 $0 $400 000 $93 217 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
725 000 $725 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
800 000 $800 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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4 août 2020 à 11 h 11
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Pens fans wouldn't trade Marino for Marner 1 for 1

Edit: you took out the first and retained and it's still not close. Marino is worth more than Marner and Rust is close to his value on his own. No idea why we package both for a 10M winger that hasn't broken 30 goals
4 août 2020 à 11 h 15
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if you want anyone to take marner you’d have to retain salary. wait sh*t *shuffles papers* you guys can’t do that.
4 août 2020 à 11 h 19
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TOR takes it and runs
4 août 2020 à 11 h 30
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Pens fans wouldn't trade Marino for Marner 1 for 1

Edit: you took out the first and retained and it's still not close. Marino is worth more than Marner and Rust is close to his value on his own. No idea why we package both for a 10M winger that hasn't broken 30 goals


You're insane if you think Rust is close to Marner's value, I love Rusty and I like the Pens but you're way off on that. Not to mention, Marino isn't worth more than Marner. Could maybe see them having similar value cause of Marners contract but if Marner makes 9.5M (only 1.4M less) are any of us having this conversation? Plenty of players are paid 1-2M over their value but it doesn't make them as valueless as Marner apparently
4 août 2020 à 11 h 34
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
You're insane if you think Rust is close to Marner's value, I love Rusty and I like the Pens but you're way off on that. Not to mention, Marino isn't worth more than Marner. Could maybe see them having similar value cause of Marners contract but if Marner makes 9.5M (only 1.4M less) are any of us having this conversation? Plenty of players are paid 1-2M over their value but it doesn't make them as valueless as Marner apparently


Marino is a rookie defenseman that has already proven he can play top-4 minutes and is under team control for >3 more seasons. He's worth a lot more than Marner, who can't even score 30 goals on the NHL's most loaded offense and is overpaid by 4M. He's already more proven than Seth Jones was when he was moved for Johansen. Rust is a point/game winger signed at a reasonable term for another two seasons. He has identical Corsi % and point/60 stats to Marner this season on a worse offense.... I think most GM's would rather have Rust at 3.5M than Marner at 10M, so yes he is at least in the conversation value-wise. Marner's contract alone lowers his value massively whereas Rust's raises his. All of this conversation is worthless as Rust and Marino would get moved for maybe five players in the league and Marner is not one of them.
4 août 2020 à 11 h 44
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Marino is a rookie defenseman that has already proven he can play top-4 minutes and is under team control for >3 more seasons. He's worth a lot more than Marner, who can't even score 30 goals on the NHL's most loaded offense and is overpaid by 4M. He's already more proven than Seth Jones was when he was moved for Johansen. Rust is a point/game winger signed at a reasonable term for another two seasons. He has identical Corsi % and point/60 stats to Marner this season on a worse offense.... I think most GM's would rather have Rust at 3.5M than Marner at 10M, so yes he is at least in the conversation value-wise. Marner's contract alone lowers his value massively whereas Rust's raises his. All of this conversation is worthless as Rust and Marino would get moved for maybe five players in the league and Marner is not one of them.


you want to talk about overrating your teams players, then look no further than this post.
4 août 2020 à 11 h 49
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Marino is a rookie defenseman that has already proven he can play top-4 minutes and is under team control for >3 more seasons. He's worth a lot more than Marner, who can't even score 30 goals on the NHL's most loaded offense and is overpaid by 4M. He's already more proven than Seth Jones was when he was moved for Johansen. Rust is a point/game winger signed at a reasonable term for another two seasons. He has identical Corsi % and point/60 stats to Marner this season on a worse offense.... I think most GM's would rather have Rust at 3.5M than Marner at 10M, so yes he is at least in the conversation value-wise. Marner's contract alone lowers his value massively whereas Rust's raises his. All of this conversation is worthless as Rust and Marino would get moved for maybe five players in the league and Marner is not one of them.


Your assessment on Rust is insane. This is his 1st year with over 1.00 ppg, so he doesnt deserved to be tabled as a ppg player
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4 août 2020 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Marino is a rookie defenseman that has already proven he can play top-4 minutes and is under team control for >3 more seasons. He's worth a lot more than Marner, who can't even score 30 goals on the NHL's most loaded offense and is overpaid by 4M. He's already more proven than Seth Jones was when he was moved for Johansen. Rust is a point/game winger signed at a reasonable term for another two seasons. He has identical Corsi % and point/60 stats to Marner this season on a worse offense.... I think most GM's would rather have Rust at 3.5M than Marner at 10M, so yes he is at least in the conversation value-wise. Marner's contract alone lowers his value massively whereas Rust's raises his. All of this conversation is worthless as Rust and Marino would get moved for maybe five players in the league and Marner is not one of them.


The 28 year old Bryan Rust who never put up 40 points before this season is better offensively than 23 year old Marner who essentially put up b2b 90 point seasons? The Bryan Rust that played on a line with Guentzel and Malkin during his most productive part of the season and thats not stacked enough? Not to mention, Marner is a huge reason why Toronto has one of the most loaded offenses in the league, by setting up the multitude of goal scorers they have (best primary assist player in the NHL).

Marner's overpaid by 4M you say? So Marner is worth under 7M per season? I keep forgetting about all those 90+ point players at the age of 23 making less than $7M on long term deals...

As for Marino, he's a stud no doubt and I'm happy for him. Would say some regression may potentially be in his future but I agree that he'll probably be at least a top 4 guy. Would still say that him and Marner are worth it 1 for 1. Would you trade Marino for Kane? Rantenen? Panarin?

Marner is overly hated on this site cause of his slight overpayment and cause he plays on Toronto. Hes an absolute beast and has trade value equal to a lot of other top players.

Try and be less biased pls
4 août 2020 à 12 h 4
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Brad Boyes please Wq
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Quoting: Marino4Norris
Marino is a rookie defenseman that has already proven he can play top-4 minutes and is under team control for >3 more seasons. He's worth a lot more than Marner, who can't even score 30 goals on the NHL's most loaded offense and is overpaid by 4M. He's already more proven than Seth Jones was when he was moved for Johansen. Rust is a point/game winger signed at a reasonable term for another two seasons. He has identical Corsi % and point/60 stats to Marner this season on a worse offense.... I think most GM's would rather have Rust at 3.5M than Marner at 10M, so yes he is at least in the conversation value-wise. Marner's contract alone lowers his value massively whereas Rust's raises his. All of this conversation is worthless as Rust and Marino would get moved for maybe five players in the league and Marner is not one of them.


Bruh...
4 août 2020 à 12 h 21
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I wouldn't do this deal as a Pens fan, but come on. Rusty is nowhere near Marner, the only thing that's helping his case is he's making 7 mil less than him. Also, to whoever made this team, idk why you have Rust on the 4th line, he'd be much better suited for that 3rd line with Kerfoot and Mikheyev
4 août 2020 à 14 h 8
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Sharks would take that with ease
4 août 2020 à 15 h 8
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Quoting: Terry_AkiSauce
The 28 year old Bryan Rust who never put up 40 points before this season is better offensively than 23 year old Marner who essentially put up b2b 90 point seasons? The Bryan Rust that played on a line with Guentzel and Malkin during his most productive part of the season and thats not stacked enough? Not to mention, Marner is a huge reason why Toronto has one of the most loaded offenses in the league, by setting up the multitude of goal scorers they have (best primary assist player in the NHL).

Marner's overpaid by 4M you say? So Marner is worth under 7M per season? I keep forgetting about all those 90+ point players at the age of 23 making less than $7M on long term deals...

As for Marino, he's a stud no doubt and I'm happy for him. Would say some regression may potentially be in his future but I agree that he'll probably be at least a top 4 guy. Would still say that him and Marner are worth it 1 for 1. Would you trade Marino for Kane? Rantenen? Panarin?

Marner is overly hated on this site cause of his slight overpayment and cause he plays on Toronto. Hes an absolute beast and has trade value equal to a lot of other top players.

Try and be less biased pls


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Bruh...


Quoting: DavidAyers
Bruh...


Nowhere did I say Rust was better than Marner, I said they had similar value based off of their contracts. Which I stand by. Value is based off of a lot more than production
 
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