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    2 août 2020 à 16 h 13
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    If you think Turris is 1C material, you are sadly mistaken
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    2 août 2020 à 16 h 16
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    Stutzle is gone at 2
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Stutzle is gone at 2


    I hope so. Byfield has a higher ceiling and we need a #1 centre.

    I think Stutzle is a #1LW in the NHL but we already have Brady.

    The Turris trade is only done if we don't get Byfield or someone to fill the top centre spot in the draft.
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    2 août 2020 à 16 h 20
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    I hope so. Byfield has a higher ceiling and we need a #1 centre.

    I think Stutzle is a #1LW in the NHL but we already have Brady.

    The Turris trade is only done if we don't get Byfield or someone to fill the top centre spot in the draft.


    You already have brady and formenton and they already have turcotte and vilardi
    2 août 2020 à 16 h 21
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    If the cost of that Zaitsev/Turris swap is Formenton, I’d probably rather just keep Zaitsev. Not to mention Turris isn’t 1C material as @McRanteskog stated above.

    The chance of you reeling in Lehner on a 1 year deal is also pretty much non-existent, regardless of the AAV, as he’s made it very clear he wants to sign a multi-year deal after this season is done.
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    2 août 2020 à 16 h 22
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Stutzle is gone at 2


    Nah they’re definitely taking Byfield at 2. If they don’t they’ll regret it eventually imo. As good as Stutzle is (he is rly talented and will he amazing in the NHL) you draft BPA at 2nd overall. Byfield is basically a dream 1C for any coach if he reaches his potential (he likely will) and would make a lethal 1-2 punch with Turcotte. I don’t think Stutzle and Byfield are that far apart but I can’t see how you pass a guy like Byfield at 2 tbh. That’s my opinion though. Byfield would look great in a Sens uniform though and could become their 1C, which scares me as a Habs fan.
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    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    You already have brady and formenton and they already have turcotte and vilardi


    So Byfield would be better for us and Stutzle would be better for them?
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    I hope so. Byfield has a higher ceiling and we need a #1 centre.

    I think Stutzle is a #1LW in the NHL but we already have Brady.

    The Turris trade is only done if we don't get Byfield or someone to fill the top centre spot in the draft.


    If you guys get Byfield I swear... Tkachuk and Byfied would be so annoying to play against omg.
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    So Byfield would be better for us and Stutzle would be better for them?


    Well yeah
    2 août 2020 à 16 h 28
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    So Byfield would be better for us and Stutzle would be better for them?


    You draft BPA at 2 and you don’t think of the teams behind you. I agree Stutzle is a better fit for LA and Byfield is a better fit in Ottawa, but it’s also easier to move centers to wing than vice-versa (trust me, I’m a Habs fan and we’ve been doing this for years smh it never really works). The Kings can simply move Turcotte to LW or Villardi to RW. Anyways, Byfield-Turcotte/Villardi > Turcotte-Villardi IMO. Villardi and Turcotte can also bust, even though I don’t think that will happen and the chances of that happening are slim. Who knows? Better off safe than sorry.
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    Nah they’re definitely taking Byfield at 2. If they don’t they’ll regret it eventually imo. As good as Stutzle is (he is rly talented and will he amazing in the NHL) you draft BPA at 2nd overall. Byfield is basically a dream 1C for any coach if he reaches his potential (he likely will) and would make a lethal 1-2 punch with Turcotte. I don’t think Stutzle and Byfield are that far apart but I can’t see how you pass a guy like Byfield at 2 tbh. That’s my opinion though. Byfield would look great in a Sens uniform though and could become their 1C, which scares me as a Habs fan.


    Stutzle is a safer pick. He's pretty much guarenteed to be a top line LW (not in the same tier as Lafreniere though).

    More unpredictability with Byfield because he is younger and not as good right now but he has more room for growth.

    I'd say they have very similar value but just centers are more valuable than wingers.
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    So Byfield would be better for us and Stutzle would be better for them?


    Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
    Well yeah


    Either player will fit. Just because we have Turcotte and Vilardi doesn’t mean we can’t pick Byfield.
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    Either player will fit. Just because we have Turcotte and Vilardi doesn’t mean we can’t pick Byfield.


    Honestly you can't go wrong with either guy unless somehow Lafreniere is available.
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    Either player will fit. Just because we have Turcotte and Vilardi doesn’t mean we can’t pick Byfield.


    Well with kopitar thomas kupari JAD madden kempe all being C rn or in the future its pretty tough to see a scenario where they take byfield
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    Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
    Stutzle is a safer pick. He's pretty much guarenteed to be a top line LW (not in the same tier as Lafreniere though).

    More unpredictability with Byfield because he is younger and not as good right now but he has more room for growth.

    I'd say thei have very similar value but just centers are more valuable than wingers.


    Byfield produced at a similar rate in the WJC (this year) to Lafrenière (last year). They’re almost a year in age apart. Not saying that he’ll be as good as Laffy, but it’s still a good sign. I agree Stutzle is the safer pick, but Byfield’s potential is enourmous.
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    Honestly you can't go wrong with either guy unless somehow Lafreniere is available.


    Vilardi is already well aquatinted with being slotted on the RW, so the positional depth isn’t such a concern as people like to think it is.

    Fingers crossed Blake at least looks at trading up for Laf though!
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    Well with kopitar thomas kupari JAD madden kempe all being C rn or in the future its pretty tough to see a scenario where they take byfield


    Thomas, Kupari, Madden and Kempe either can, have or currently are playing wing, so no, that’s not the case.
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    Well with kopitar thomas kupari JAD madden kempe all being C rn or in the future its pretty tough to see a scenario where they take byfield


    Probably some of them will bust/not be as good as hoped. Prospects are never a guarantee. Also, I know that Kupari can play LW, Thomas can play RW, Villardi can play RW and Kempe can play LW. Pretty sure that Madden can play wing too. It’s a a good problem to have a lot of centers. It gives you a lot of options since many could be moved to wing/be dealt to help other needs. I don’t think their surplus at center is that big of a problem in consequence since most are well acquainted with the wings position.

    Don’t get me wrong though, Stutzle would be fantastic in LA and it would be a good pick, but I can’t help to think that Kopitar mentoring Byfield would be perfect for his development and that Byfield is the type of player that the Kings like. Speedy and strong.
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    Either player will fit. Just because we have Turcotte and Vilardi doesn’t mean we can’t pick Byfield.


    Quoting: GabeVilardiFanAccount
    Thomas, Kupari, Madden and Kempe either can, have or currently are playing wing, so no, that’s not the case.


    100 % agree.
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    Vilardi is already well aquatinted with being slotted on the RW, so the positional depth isn’t such a concern as people like to think it is.

    Fingers crossed Blake at least looks at trading up for Laf though!


    The cost would probably Turcotte at a minimum.

    I can't see a team trading the top pick.
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    Sharks say no but thanks for the offer. We are looking for more of a 1B guy
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    Sharks say no but thanks for the offer. We are looking for more of a 1B guy


    You're looking for a 1B guy?
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    You're looking for a 1B guy?


    Uh yeah Jones kinda blows.
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    Obvs Nashville trade aside (Formenton isnt going anywhere), i wouldnt mind Stutzle or Byfield. I really like both. For me, its the 5th pick that would change depending on which one we choose as i dont see Stutzle as a centre
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    Quoting: GabeVilardiFanAccount
    If the cost of that Zaitsev/Turris swap is Formenton, I’d probably rather just keep Zaitsev. Not to mention Turris isn’t 1C material as @McRanteskog stated above.

    The chance of you reeling in Lehner on a 1 year deal is also pretty much non-existent, regardless of the AAV, as he’s made it very clear he wants to sign a multi-year deal after this season is done.


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