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Winnipeg - Montreal blockbuster - WIN

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 1 août 2020
Publié: 1 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
21 150 000 $
2950 000 $
22 000 000 $
1950 000 $
65 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
42 350 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
  2. Petry, Jeff (2 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Domi = Samberg + 1st
Petry = Vesalainen + Roslovic
Retention $2.75m x 1 year = 2021 2nd
MTL
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Samberg, Dylan
  3. Vesalainen, Kristian
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Winnipeg get a 2C and 2RHD.

Montreal get a LHD prospect with top-pair upside; a good forward prospect; a young 3rd liner; and a 1st + 2nd.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $79 712 025 $0 $0 $1 787 975 $
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7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 6
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6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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4 995 000 $4 995 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 280 000 $2 280 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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2 916 667 $2 916 667 $
C
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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6 166 667 $6 166 667 $
G
UFA - 4
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894 167 $894 167 $
DG
RFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $
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1 août 2020 à 10 h 22
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Switch Samburg with Niku and remove the 2021 2nd and the deal is better. We have enough LHD prospects and are getting thin at RHD prospects. After Weber, Petry and Juulsen we only have Brook, Fleury and Hendrickson in the system we can't even fill the rockets right side next year lol.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 27
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Jets are giving way too much here so no thanks, the Habs can keep Petry.

The Jets 2020 1st and Heinola for Domi and one of the Habs 2nds is fair, don't need or want Petry.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: Campabee
Switch Samburg with Niku and remove the 2021 2nd and the deal is better. We have enough LHD prospects and are getting thin at RHD prospects. After Weber, Petry and Juulsen we only have Brook, Fleury and Hendrickson in the system we can't even fill the rockets right side next year lol.


Samberg is a much higher rated prospect than Niku. Montreal have a need for a top 4 LHD more than a small 3rd pair RHD which is what Niku projects as imo.

I made another AGM for the Montreal side here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1815150
1 août 2020 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Jets are giving way too much here so no thanks, the Habs can keep Petry.

The Jets 2020 1st and Heinola for Domi and one of the Habs 2nds is fair, don't need or want Petry.


I thought Winnipeg would rather keep Heinola over Samberg? Is that not correct?
1 août 2020 à 10 h 28
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Way too much for WPG to give up
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1 août 2020 à 10 h 29
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Easy no for jets
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1 août 2020 à 10 h 34
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Quoting: Richard88
I thought Winnipeg would rather keep Heinola over Samberg? Is that not correct?


Definitely but not sure if Samberg would be enough and didn't want to hear the whining about it.. Lol

I think Samberg is overrated but he is big and with Morrissey, Pionk and hopefully DeMelo I'm not sure having another small dman like Heinola is a good idea plus Niku is still around and he and Heinola are similar but Niku has very little value so he's not worth trading or would be enough for Domi, as good as Heinola is going to be the Jets need a 2C more then anything else, if it takes trading Heinola to get one then so be it.
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1 août 2020 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: Richard88
Samberg is a much higher rated prospect than Niku. Montreal have a need for a top 4 LHD more than a small 3rd pair RHD which is what Niku projects as imo.

I made another AGM for the Montreal side here: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1815150


I don't disagree with you that we need a top pairing LHD but we need a top pairing LHD not a prospect, we have a lot of top pairing prospects with Norlinder, Romanov, Harris and Struble all with potential. We actually have a greater need for a top pairing RHD prospect as our only one in the system is Brook and our only top 4 RHD prospects are Brook, Fleury and Henrikson. If Petry moves on in FA and Weber retires in less than 3 years we are severely screwed.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 43
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Quoting: Campabee
Switch Samburg with Niku and remove the 2021 2nd and the deal is better. We have enough LHD prospects and are getting thin at RHD prospects. After Weber, Petry and Juulsen we only have Brook, Fleury and Hendrickson in the system we can't even fill the rockets right side next year lol.


you do know free agency exists right? and that you'd be allowed to make other trades for a RHD right?
1 août 2020 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
you do know free agency exists right? and that you'd be allowed to make other trades for a RHD right?


How many of the FA will be better than or equal to Petry AND willing to sign in Montreal? Not many if any! Trades for a top 4 RHD will be just as hard as they rarely come up for a reason. That reason is simply because top pairing RHD are a rare breed and as a result it is the hardest position to trade for.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 57
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
you do know free agency exists right? and that you'd be allowed to make other trades for a RHD right?


Quoting: Campabee
How many of the FA will be better than or equal to Petry AND willing to sign in Montreal? Not many if any! Trades for a top 4 RHD will be just as hard as they rarely come up for a reason. That reason is simply because top pairing RHD are a rare breed and as a result it is the hardest position to trade for.


In the corresponding Montreal AGM I included Montreal offersheeting Cernak. I think he might be the best OS candidate in Tampa as he won't get anywhere near as good offers from Tampa as other teams can make him.
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1 août 2020 à 11 h 2
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Jets are giving way too much here so no thanks, the Habs can keep Petry.

The Jets 2020 1st and Heinola for Domi and one of the Habs 2nds is fair, don't need or want Petry.


Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Jets are giving way too much here so no thanks, the Habs can keep Petry.

The Jets 2020 1st and Heinola for Domi and one of the Habs 2nds is fair, don't need or want Petry.


That isn’t close to fair
1 août 2020 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Jets are giving way too much here so no thanks, the Habs can keep Petry.

The Jets 2020 1st and Heinola for Domi and one of the Habs 2nds is fair, don't need or want Petry.


Dont want or need a top 4 RHD who can play 20+ mins a night with Morrisey? He would be Winnipegs second best dman
1 août 2020 à 11 h 3
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In the corresponding Montreal AGM I included Montreal offersheeting Cernak. I think he might be the best OS candidate in Tampa as he won't get anywhere near as good offers from Tampa as other teams can make him.


That's fine but the Habs would have to move Petry before FA starts to be able to OS Cernak which I am not against but I doubt they do it.
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Quoting: NixJets
That isn’t close to fair


Isn't close to fair for who?
1 août 2020 à 11 h 4
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That's fine but the Habs would have to move Petry before FA starts to be able to OS Cernak which I am not against but I doubt they do it.


They can submit an OS the day after the draft, which is before FA starts. At least that's the way it is in normal years.
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Dont want or need a top 4 RHD who can play 20+ mins a night with Morrisey? He would be Winnipegs second best dman


He'll be 34 and a free agent, not overpaying for that, would rather sign DeMelo or one of the other many RHD's available in free agency then trade for Petry, I like Petry but I don't want to sell the farm for him.
1 août 2020 à 11 h 41
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They can submit an OS the day after the draft, which is before FA starts. At least that's the way it is in normal years.


Yeah, fair enough but that still doesn't solve the issue of RHD depth in the minors
1 août 2020 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Campabee
That's fine but the Habs would have to move Petry before FA starts to be able to OS Cernak which I am not against but I doubt they do it.


couldn't they do it after?
1 août 2020 à 12 h 49
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couldn't they do it after?


Yes they could but again I just don't see MB doing it cause he likes Weber, Petry and Chiarot so much
1 août 2020 à 14 h 27
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Yeah, fair enough but that still doesn't solve the issue of RHD depth in the minors


Montreal have tonnes of draft picks. You can easily solve your RHD depth issue in the draft.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 36
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Montreal have tonnes of draft picks. You can easily solve your RHD depth issue in the draft.


Your missing my point, if this trade was to happen it would have to include a top RHD prospect over Samburg because of positional need of the Habs.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 43
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Your missing my point, if this trade was to happen it would have to include a top RHD prospect over Samburg because of positional need of the Habs.


Ok. I figured Montreal's need for a top 4 LHD was greater than their need for RHD - in the short term.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 55
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Ok. I figured Montreal's need for a top 4 LHD was greater than their need for RHD - in the short term.


In short term yes we need the 1 LHD but I think many fans and the organization itself would rather see what our prospects become before bringing in another teams top prospect. Especially Romanov who is also NHL ready especially at the cost of creating a hole on the right side lol
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