SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Fauteuil - DG

Makar

Créé par: habslife
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 31 juill. 2020
Publié: 31 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Chiarot Seatle
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
512 000 000 $
31 250 000 $
31 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
23 500 000 $
53 400 000 $
22 250 000 $
21 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
53 400 000 $
65 500 000 $
66 000 000 $
56 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Sanderson, Jake
3925 000 $
Lundell, Anton
3925 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Makar, Cale12 000 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
1.
MTL
ANA
  1. Chiarot, Ben
Détails additionnels:
Seatle
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (OTT)
OTT
  1. Byron, Paul (750 000 $ retained)
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (DET)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
#8 overall (Lundell)
BUF
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de MTL
Logo de BUF
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de STL
Logo de MTL
Logo de WSH
Logo de MTL
Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
2021
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de OTT
Logo de PHI
Logo de DET
Logo de MTL
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 853 870 $597 561 $1 175 000 $-353 870 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Lundell, Anton
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 5
Sanderson, Jake
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 833 $880 833 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
763 333 $763 333 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 24
#26
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 20,030
Mentions "j'aime": 12,187
Quoting: DirtyDangle
the whole thread is built in the premise that he signed one and what would the avs do. are you that oblivious.

you call yourself an avs fan but seem to forget sakic and o'rielly both signed offersheets.


I asked you explain why makar would sign one, more to
The point how you’re not an avs fan.

Greg Sherman was the gm when ROR signed an offersheet but and avs fan would know that, him signing one is irrelevant today. But you’re too dumb to figure that out

So now explain makar would sign one and explain why ROR did sign is, an avs fan would know what ROR issues were

You’re a pathetic troll stop pretending you cheer for this team
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 27
#27
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: coga16
I asked you explain why makar would sign one, more to
The point how you’re not an avs fan.

Greg Sherman was the gm when ROR signed an offersheet but and avs fan would know that

So now explain makar would sign one and explain why ROR did sign is, an avs fan would know what ROR issues were


like i said before the whole thread is built in the premise that he signed one and what would the avs do. are you that oblivious.

i can't believe i actually have to explain this to someone but players sign offersheets because they are the better offer.

still waiting on that 2021-22 roster. you can't even back-up your own opinions.
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 28
#28
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 20,030
Mentions "j'aime": 12,187
Quoting: DirtyDangle
like i said before the whole thread is built in the premise that he signed one and what would the avs do. are you that oblivious.

i can't believe i actually have to explain this to someone but players sign offersheets because they are the better offer.

still waiting on that 2021-22 roster. you can't even back-up your own opinions.


Players have to sign the offersheet you idiot, which is why I said explain why makar would

Players don’t sign them bc they get high offers, Brayden point said he didn’t ever look at the offer sheet that was prepared to him bc he wants to win in Tampa, so explain why makar Would sign one

Oh you can’t bc you don’t know the team you troll

I said makar would never sign one you moron, there’s nothing to explain more than that, you can’t respond to
My questions why he would sign one. You can’t respond to anything about the avs bc you’re a sad pathetic troll
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 32
#29
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: coga16
Players have to sign the offersheet you idiot, which is why I said explain why makar would


i just told you but unfortunately i can't make you understand. that's a battle you have to have with yourself.

if you're done moving the goalposts now you can look at a 2021-22 roster with makar making $12m then maybe you can understand why 4 top 5 picks and $12m in cap space would be tempting.
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 35
#30
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 20,030
Mentions "j'aime": 12,187
Quoting: DirtyDangle
i just told you but unfortunately i can't make you understand, that's a battle you have to have with yourself.

if you're done moving the goalposts now you can look at a 2021-22 roster with makar making $12m then maybe you can understand why 4 top 5 picks and $12m in cap space would be tempting.


Explain why he would sign one and explain why the avs would let him walk if he did during the mack window

Come on explain why their top pairing dman would sign an offersheet and why avs would take draft picks in their 3 year cup window

If you know the team you have an answer

Or are you a pathetic troll
31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 39
#31
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Modifié 31 juill. 2020 à 22 h 50
Quoting: coga16
Explain why he would sign one and explain why the avs would let him walk if he did during the mack window

Come on explain why their top pairing dman would sign an offersheet and why avs would take draft picks in their 3 year cup window

If you know the team you have an answer

Or are you a pathetic troll


re-read the thread. it's all covered in there.

you keep calling people trolls yet can't back up any of your arguments. it looks foolish.

it would be tempting because at $12m the avs would have to completely gut their depth to keep the core. meanwhile the avs already have what looks to be two bluechip defenseman in byram and girard. on top of that the avs would get 4 top 5 picks. for the record if you look back at the last few drafts even if the picks ended up being 5th overall you're looking at something like petterson, hayton, turcotte, and perfetti (according to bob's list). if you can't understand why a lineup like that is tempting that's on you.
31 juill. 2020 à 23 h 22
#32
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 5,062
Mentions "j'aime": 2,008
What's not answered is Sabres don't trade 8OA for Domi.
Seattle doesn't the a 30 year old Chiarot when younger options are available.
Ottawa laughs.
31 juill. 2020 à 23 h 28
#33
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2015
Messages: 20,030
Mentions "j'aime": 12,187
Modifié 31 juill. 2020 à 23 h 46
Quoting: DirtyDangle
re-read the thread. it's all covered in there.

you keep calling people trolls yet can't back up any of your arguments. it looks foolish.

it would be tempting because at $12m the avs would have to completely gut their depth to keep the core. meanwhile the avs already have what looks to be two bluechip defenseman in byram and girard. on top of that the avs would get 4 top 5 picks. for the record if you look back at the last few drafts even if the picks ended up being 5th overall you're looking at something like petterson, hayton, turcotte, and perfetti (according to bob's list). if you can't understand why a lineup like that is tempting that's on you.


You won’t get 5th overall with an offersheet you idiot, Montreal won’t be a lottery team

You are a troll and a moron, just leave avs rosters alone

You still can’t explain one thing when it comes to
Avs logic, you didn’t cover one of the questions that I asked
You of logic behind makar accepting and avs not matching their Franchise 1d yet you said 12m won’t work yet
They offered panarin 11.5m a season. Oh you didn’t know that did you, or course you didn’t bc you’re not an avs fan y

You’re legit a pathetic troll or the dumbest commenter of all time
31 juill. 2020 à 23 h 49
#34
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,597
Mentions "j'aime": 1,589
Quoting: DirtyDangle
re-read the thread. it's all covered in there.

you keep calling people trolls yet can't back up any of your arguments. it looks foolish.

it would be tempting because at $12m the avs would have to completely gut their depth to keep the core. meanwhile the avs already have what looks to be two bluechip defenseman in byram and girard. on top of that the avs would get 4 top 5 picks. for the record if you look back at the last few drafts even if the picks ended up being 5th overall you're looking at something like petterson, hayton, turcotte, and perfetti (according to bob's list). if you can't understand why a lineup like that is tempting that's on you.


To be fair, it’s not likely at all MTL gets 4 top 5 picks. They didn’t even get one this year. Unless that get the whacky 1overal that will never happen again. MTL didn’t win 2 of the 3 spots this year and technically finished 9th overall, I think
1 août 2020 à 7 h 21
#35
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Modifié 1 août 2020 à 7 h 30
Quoting: coga16
You won’t get 5th overall with an offersheet you idiot, Montreal won’t be a lottery team

You are a troll and a moron, just leave avs rosters alone

You still can’t explain one thing when it comes to
Avs logic, you didn’t cover one of the questions that I asked
You of logic behind makar accepting and avs not matching their Franchise 1d yet you said 12m won’t work yet
They offered panarin 11.5m a season. Oh you didn’t know that did you, or course you didn’t bc you’re not an avs fan y

You’re legit a pathetic troll or the dumbest commenter of all time


with this team you would. they can't even afford to re-sign suzuki or romanov, the two cornerstone pieces. if suzuki has another season like last season he's probably looking at the hischer/keller contract and if romanov is good he's likely looking at something like the dumba/lindell contract. the habs would have to gut the depth of this team to make that happen and this team here doesn't have much depth. even after clearing out the depth the habs would still be up against the cap next season with kk and mete to re-sign so they have to cut even further. you're counting on a 35 year old weber and 33 year old price to do the heavy lifting for the next 4 years. without a doubt this team would give you at least 3 top 5 picks. you'd even have a few shots at 1st overall, especially if the nhl fixes the lottery system. even at #7th overall you're looking at a talent pool like andersson, hughes, cozens, and rossi. plus the $12m. when you actually take time to think these things out you see why it's tempting.

other contracts were signed after panarin moved on from the avs. the panarin offer was set to expire before mack needed to be extended not to run along side it like the makar offersheet. completely different situation. that argument doesn't hold any water.

still waiting on that 2021-22 roster. you moved the goal posts like 3 times now and can't defend any of your arguments.

the last time you tried pestering me like this it was to tell me that hutchinson wasn't even an ahl goalie and that werner and miska were miles better. yet when the avs were given the option of unlimited goalies for these playoffs they left werner and miska home and only took hutchinson as the an extra goalie.
1 août 2020 à 7 h 56
#36
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: KINGS67
To be fair, it’s not likely at all MTL gets 4 top 5 picks. They didn’t even get one this year. Unless that get the whacky 1overal that will never happen again. MTL didn’t win 2 of the 3 spots this year and technically finished 9th overall, I think


they were the 8th worst this season. with this roster they added makar and 5 rookies but lost domi, petry, chiarot and byron. makar is a great addition but the loss of established players i wouldn't expect this team to improve the following season. this team is up against the cap with no room to re-sign their two cornerstone pieces in suzuki and romanov. if either of them are any good this team would have to clear out at least $10m-$12m for the following season. so now your looking at replacing 3 to 4 roster players with league min player and you'd still be up against the cap with kk to re-sign the following season. a 35 year old weber and 33 year old price are going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting for then next 4 years.
1 août 2020 à 9 h 40
#37
John 3 16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 9,580
Mentions "j'aime": 4,616
Quoting: DirtyDangle
i think the avs could win with with girard, byram, and trade timmins with picks for an upgrade. then you have a very solid defense core. do you think the avs can win with makar and mackinnon taking up $24m. even if the cap is up to $90m by then your talking about over 1/4 of the cap on two players. then add rantanen at $9.25m and landeskog probably takes at least $8m and that's almost half your cap. i'd say the odds are the same either way but one gets you there sooner while the other takes longer but likely gives you an even longer window.


Avs already have a solid defense core without needing to lose Makar and Timmins. I doubt Makar and Mackinnon are going to get $24m combined due to the flat cap. And even if cap becomes an issue, now isn't the time to worry about that because it'll only be in 2023 that Mackinnon needs his raise. So the earliest Colorado might have to consider trading an important player is 2023, but I really don't think they will need to if Sakic manages the cap well.
1 août 2020 à 9 h 49
#38
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: Richard88
Avs already have a solid defense core without needing to lose Makar and Timmins. I doubt Makar and Mackinnon are going to get $24m combined due to the flat cap. And even if cap becomes an issue, now isn't the time to worry about that because it'll only be in 2023 that Mackinnon needs his raise. So the earliest Colorado might have to consider trading an important player is 2023, but I really don't think they will need to if Sakic manages the cap well.


well makar is making $12m and if you don't think mack isn't going to make $12m on his next contract then i admire your optimism but i doubt that he takes less as top forwards are taking $11m-$12.5m now.

the avs will be up against the cap next season even with makar making $8-9m and that's just keeping the status quo. the cap space is going to run out much sooner than you think.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 15
#39
John 3 16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 9,580
Mentions "j'aime": 4,616
Quoting: DirtyDangle
well makar is making $12m and if you don't think mack isn't going to make $12m on his next contract then i admire your optimism but i doubt that he takes less as top forwards are taking $11m-$12.5m now.

the avs will be up against the cap next season even with makar making $8-9m and that's just keeping the status quo. the cap space is going to run out much sooner than you think.


Makar isn't going to sign for $12m off his ELC. Sakic isn't Dubas. The best comparable is Rantanen who got $9.3m x 6 years.

As you know, I've shown in countless AGM's that it's possible for Colorado to keep all their best players even if they sign them all to fair contracts.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 27
#40
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: Richard88
Makar isn't going to sign for $12m off his ELC. Sakic isn't Dubas. The best comparable is Rantanen who got $9.3m x 6 years.

As you know, I've shown in countless AGM's that it's possible for Colorado to keep all their best players even if they sign them all to fair contracts.


look at the team in the op. it's a thread about makar getting a $12m offersheet. the whole discussion is with the assumption that makar making $12m

avs can keep their players for another 2 - 3 years but $12m makar makes that extremely difficult.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 29
#41
John 3 16
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 9,580
Mentions "j'aime": 4,616
Quoting: DirtyDangle
look at the team in the op. it's a thread about makar getting a $12m offersheet. the whole discussion is with the assumption that makar making $12m

avs can keep their players for another 2 - 3 years but $12m makar makes that extremely difficult.


Nobody is going to OS Makar at $12m. And if they did then Sakic would match it, and keep Makar for as long as possible.
1 août 2020 à 10 h 31
#42
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: Richard88
Nobody is going to OS Makar at $12m. And if they did then Sakic would match it, and keep Makar for as long as possible.


of course not. most things on this site aren't anything close realistic. it's just a discussion on how a $12m offersheet would affect the avs.
1 août 2020 à 13 h 55
#43
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,597
Mentions "j'aime": 1,589
Quoting: DirtyDangle
they were the 8th worst this season. with this roster they added makar and 5 rookies but lost domi, petry, chiarot and byron. makar is a great addition but the loss of established players i wouldn't expect this team to improve the following season. this team is up against the cap with no room to re-sign their two cornerstone pieces in suzuki and romanov. if either of them are any good this team would have to clear out at least $10m-$12m for the following season. so now your looking at replacing 3 to 4 roster players with league min player and you'd still be up against the cap with kk to re-sign the following season. a 35 year old weber and 33 year old price are going to have to do a lot of heavy lifting for then next 4 years.

My point was the avs are unlikely to get 4 top 5 picks in a row. Never said MTL was good. They didn’t get the top 2 out of 3 this year. They may get the 1 because this season is dumb. But technically they really didn’t even get a top 3 pick this year because a 2% chance team got it. So again, to say the Avs will get top 5 picks 4 years in a row is not likely at all
1 août 2020 à 14 h 5
#44
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: KINGS67
My point was the avs are unlikely to get 4 top 5 picks in a row. Never said MTL was good. They didn’t get the top 2 out of 3 this year. They may get the 1 because this season is dumb. But technically they really didn’t even get a top 3 pick this year because a 2% chance team got it. So again, to say the Avs will get top 5 picks 4 years in a row is not likely at all


i suppose they could fall out if another team wins the lottery. the way this habs team is built they'd be in contention for a top 5 pick every year.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 12
#45
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,597
Mentions "j'aime": 1,589
Quoting: DirtyDangle
i suppose they could fall out if another team wins the lottery. the way this habs team is built they'd be in contention for a top 5 pick every year.


I get that.... even buffalo can’t get top five picks several years in a row
1 août 2020 à 14 h 26
#46
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: KINGS67
I get that.... even buffalo can’t get top five picks several years in a row


buffalo went 8, 2, 2, 8, 8, 1, 7. any 4 year stretch there would be acceptable.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 27
#47
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,597
Mentions "j'aime": 1,589
Quoting: DirtyDangle
buffalo went 8, 2, 2, 8, 8, 1, 7. any 4 year stretch there would be acceptable.


Where were their 4 top 5 picks in a row?
1 août 2020 à 14 h 28
#48
retired
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2020
Messages: 8,893
Mentions "j'aime": 4,761
Quoting: KINGS67
Where were their 4 top 5 picks in a row?


nope but there were two franchise players in there. definitely worth it.
1 août 2020 à 14 h 29
#49
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 3,597
Mentions "j'aime": 1,589
Quoting: DirtyDangle
nope but there were two franchise players in there. definitely worth it.


Sure
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage