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Keeping the roster with as little trading as possible

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Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 30 juill. 2020
Publié: 30 juill. 2020
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I signed Mikheyev for 2 years at 1.8M. I don't know if he'll go for 1 or 2 years, but with only 39 NHL Games to his name, I would think 2M is a max he gets on a short bridge. The leafs simply don't have the cap to go long-term with him like they did with Johnsson/Kerfoot.

Dermott is a hard case. Assuming he mainly plays 3rd Pair in the play-in/playoffs, I'm going with the argument that he follows Johnsson's lead and takes his Qualifying Offer. It brings him to 1 year at 874,125. This means the following year he gets Arbitration Rights, and the expectation (for now) is that Keefe is willing to try him out in the top 4 next to Rielly. If that becomes a pair next year, it's been shown that (for whatever reason) Points and Time on Ice are the main determinants into defensemen contracts. If he's getting 20+ minutes a night next season, he'll be due for a proper raise, so this really is in the best interest of dermott in the short and long term, and helps toronto out for 1 season at least.

While I was seeing if I could keep the team together by not trading for a defenseman, it just isn't possible unless a 20 or 21-man roster is used. Marincin would likely be okay on waivers, but fair chance Gauthier and Engvall* are lost for nothing. Engvall could remain as the 21st forward, but it would require saving 100K in salary elsewhere, likely mikheyev dropping to either 1.7M, or 1.75M and spezza at league minimum of 700K. I am actually a big Johnsson supporter, but I wasn't trading Kapanen, and we don't have a 3C replacement (yet) for Kerfoot, so he was the odd man out. Moving him for picks (and/or prospects) gets the Leafs to under the cap ceiling with a 23 man roster.

One of the big advantages to doing this is the cap space while carrying extras. Cap Space accrues as the season progresses, so instead of having ~10K cap space and 1 extra forward, you can carry 3 spares, and have ~950K. That 950K could be more than 3M by the time the deadline hits, which means if the leafs decide to trade for a top 4 dman, and throw in a Kapanen/Kerfoot level roster player in that trade, they would have that 3.2/3.5M plus the 3M accrued to handle a 6-7M level rental, which is a proper top pair dman.
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (SJS)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (SJS)
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  1. Johnsson, Andreas
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This trade could've been to any team. San Jose is just an example, and I think a 2nd rounder is about the correct price for him, but I doubt SJ will trade there ones in 2020, so 2022 + a 5th in 2021 seemed about fair. Whether you think that's too much or not is irrelevant, the trade is about moving the contract, not the return.
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30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 31
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I think Dermott could follow Marcus Pettersson in PIT, take his QO on a gentlemans agreement on getting paid the next year.

Problem is, next year without the cap going up, you'll still have to trade out a cap hit to fit him under the salary..
30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 20
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Quoting: gregb569
I think Dermott could follow Marcus Pettersson in PIT, take his QO on a gentlemans agreement on getting paid the next year.

Problem is, next year without the cap going up, you'll still have to trade out a cap hit to fit him under the salary..


Which is fine. By then we should know about Mikehyev long term and if Barbabnov is any good
30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 35
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Sign Dermott for 3 years now. Trade Kapanen as well if need be.

The reason I say that is because Hyman and Andersen will be the Leafs priorities next summer, and if Dermott has a breakout season the Leafs are almost guaranteed to either lose him, Andersen or Hyman. Ideally, they keep all 3. Secondly, Rielly is up in 2 years and he may not come back. So giving Dermott a 3-year deal will cover the Leafs for at least 1 year in the event Rielly leaves.

3 years at 2.75 should get it done.
30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 36
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SJ declines.
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30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 45
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Am I to understand from your Team Explanation that if you sign Dermott for one year at $1.25 million, he WOULDN'T accrue arbitration rights? That is, does accepting a Qualifying Offer acquire them, or is it just the fact of signing another contract?
30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 2
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We'll take Kapanen for that price, not Johnsson.
30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 14
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SJ declines.


Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
We'll take Kapanen for that price, not Johnsson.


The 2nd pushed out to 22 is fair. they are taking a very delayed return and we need to juice it up because of that.
Col 2 nd is fair value imo, them waiting 2 years is a risk/reward senario so I agree with this trade.
30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 23
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The 2nd pushed out to 22 is fair. they are taking a very delayed return and we need to juice it up because of that.
Col 2 nd is fair value imo, them waiting 2 years is a risk/reward senario so I agree with this trade.


Johnsson + 2020 6th = 2020 COL 2nd at most in my opinion

This is saying Johnsson = 2020 SJS 2nd + 2021 5th

I wholeheartedly think that's a massive overpay for Johnsson
30 juill. 2020 à 16 h 44
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You could technically make 1 less trade...
30 juill. 2020 à 21 h 43
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Johnsson + 2020 6th = 2020 COL 2nd at most in my opinion

This is saying Johnsson = 2020 SJS 2nd + 2021 5th

I wholeheartedly think that's a massive overpay for Johnsson


Not the 2020 pick the 2022 pick and who knows where we will be picking then that’s the risk
31 juill. 2020 à 0 h 23
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Not the 2020 pick the 2022 pick and who knows where we will be picking then that’s the risk


Ohhhhh yeah then that makes more sense
2 août 2020 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
We'll take Kapanen for that price, not Johnsson.


Again, the trade was not about the return, it was about moving salary. If Kapanen was moved for a 2nd round pick, the Leafs were royally fleeced.
2 août 2020 à 15 h 23
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Quoting: RawZuccSauce420
Ohhhhh yeah then that makes more sense


I went with 2022 actually because I assumed SJ is more interested in a retool right now, and knowing that the 2nd will be about as low as possible this year, vs a likelihood that can only drop two spots by 2022, 2020's 2nd is probably a better pick.
 
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