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Barzal In - Gaudreau Out

Créé par: BurnEmUp
Équipe: 2020-21 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 29 juill. 2020
Publié: 30 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1. I know the Rangers would rather move Trouba or Deangelo and keep Lundkvist
2. Flames fans will say we are getting screwed in the Flyers trade, and Flyers fans will say they are the ones getting screwed
3. I know Barzal is the Isles #1 C "and they have to match that"
4. Yes Viqsi, I know you love Josh and would rather the Jackets just keep him than trade him for a 2nd lol
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
712 000 000 $
32 250 000 $
1787 500 $
1787 500 $
1874 125 $
22 500 000 $
33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
1750 000 $
12 500 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Barzal, Mathew16 800 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
1.
CGY
    Barzal offer sheet compensation
    NYI
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
    Détails additionnels:
    2023 1st round pick (CGY)
    2024 1st round pick (CGY)
    2.
    CGY
    1. Farabee, Joel
    2. Patrick, Nolan [Droits de RFA]
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PHI)
    3.
    CGY
    1. Georgiev, Alexandar [Droits de RFA]
    2. Lundkvist, Nils [Liste de réserve]
    4.
    CGY
    1. Anderson, Josh [Droits de RFA]
    CBJ
    1. Phillips, Matthew
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
    Rachats de contrats
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2020
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    2021
    Logo de PHI
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    2022
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    Logo de CGY
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $73 638 291 $0 $957 500 $7 861 709 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    12 000 000 $12 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 4
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    6 375 000 $6 375 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Flyers de Philadelphie
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    874 125 $874 125 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
    AG, AD, C
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    RFA
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    787 500 $787 500 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    750 000 $750 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    787 500 $787 500 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Flames de Calgary
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1

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    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 42
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    If I'm Calgary, I'd rather have Frost than Patrick
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    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 42
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    Lmao u ain’t getting nils for that we’d trade u deangelo for that package
    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 43
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    Look people need to stop underselling the Anderson trades. If the Jackets trade him, IF, he would bring back more than a 2nd round pick and some B or C prospect. He is not going to be traded as a discount. Stop peddling garbage for him.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 45
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    I could see instead of an offer sheet the isles end up making a trade to get Johnny Hockey and send Barzy. Who know?
    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 52
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    Quoting: Jacketsman61
    Look people need to stop underselling the Anderson trades. If the Jackets trade him, IF, he would bring back more than a 2nd round pick and some B or C prospect. He is not going to be traded as a discount. Stop peddling garbage for him.


    It isn't a high end return, but it's not garbage either.

    ...and people don't need to "stop" doing anything on here, lol
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    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 53
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    Lmao u ain’t getting nils for that we’d trade u deangelo for that package


    Lmao see point #1 in the explanation, but thanks tips
    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 54
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    Quoting: Hedman77
    If I'm Calgary, I'd rather have Frost than Patrick


    I would too, but like I said in the explanation, most Flyer fans will probably already balk at the return with Patrick in it.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 11 h 55
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    Isles cant afford to lose Barzal and will probably match any offer sheet out of desperation.

    Quoting: Hedman77
    If I'm Calgary, I'd rather have Frost than Patrick

    Agree, ask for Frost > Patrick

    I think in 2 years when Tkachuk hits RFA, you get stuck paying additional 1-2million "surcharge" on re-signing him because you grossly overpaid for Barzal.
    For argument sake, if Tkachuks true value is 8mil in 2 years, why would he accept 50% less pay than what Barzal gets? He isnt 50% less valuable.
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 7
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    Quoting: McRanteskog
    Isles cant afford to lose Barzal and will probably match any offer sheet out of desperation.


    Agree, ask for Frost > Patrick

    I think in 2 years when Tkachuk hits RFA, you get stuck paying additional 1-2million "surcharge" on re-signing him because you grossly overpaid for Barzal.
    For argument sake, if Tkachuks true value is 8mil in 2 years, why would he accept 50% less pay than what Barzal gets? He isnt 50% less valuable.


    Tkachuk's QO is already going to be $9 million with the way the contract is set up. He is going to get a massive AAV on his next extension or he just takes the QO for one year and goes UFA, and paying Barzal (or anyone else) big money doesn't change that.
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 12
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    Quoting: JimmyBeee
    You are definitely burning something up. You are HIGH !!!!


    Great contribution from the guy that thinks Staal isn't just a cap dump.
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 20
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    If I'm the Isles, I don't know that I'd match that.

    4 1st round picks coming from a team that still has a number of holes in it, especially between the pipes, could leave the Flames looking pretty bad.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 28
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    Rangers easily decline.
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 32
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    Rangers easily decline.


    Of course they do. They always easily decline everything. You must have that pasted on your clip board to make it easier. laugh
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 34
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    Quoting: Buffsbrain
    I could see instead of an offer sheet the isles end up making a trade to get Johnny Hockey and send Barzy. Who know?


    Lol no way. Not trading a #1 center with at least 4 years of control for a winger that can walk in 2 years
    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 50
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    If I’m Columbus I probably take that trade as Phillips had a good year in the AHL last year and is a center prospect, plus we are getting a 2nd back and Anderson goes out west where we don’t have to see him but twice a year.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 12 h 59
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Lmao see point #1 in the explanation, but thanks tips


    Putting it in a point doesn’t mean that u then make the trade... we’re not moving nils, and we aren’t gonna be moving trouba either so that either means we trade Deangelo or he moves to the left side
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 0
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    Putting it in a point doesn’t mean that u then make the trade... we’re not moving nils, and we aren’t gonna be moving trouba either so that either means we trade Deangelo or he moves to the left side


    Oh?

    If I want to make the trade, I'll make the trade, thanks though.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 2
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Of course they do. They always easily decline everything. You must have that pasted on your clip board to make it easier. laugh


    lol i mean it's a trash trade. Not sure what you expected here. Rangers giving up the 2 best assets in the deal.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 4
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    lol i mean it's a trash trade. Not sure what you expected here. Rangers giving up the 2 best assets in the deal.


    Suuuuuure they are.

    I forgot where we are for a minute, a magical place where an unproven prospect is worth more than a proven NHL player.

    Out in the real world though, that's not the case.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 7
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Oh?

    If I want to make the trade, I'll make the trade, thanks though.


    Lol then don’t get mad when crap trades for your players happen
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 10
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    Quoting: BurnEmUp
    Suuuuuure they are.

    I forgot where we are for a minute, a magical place where an unproven prospect is worth more than a proven NHL player.

    Out in the real world though, that's not the case.


    lolololol.

    That explains a lot.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 17
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    Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
    Lol then don’t get mad when crap trades for your players happen


    What crap trade?

    The above trade makes your NHL team better. I didn't trade you garbage, the main piece is a 23 year old top 4 LHD Dman signed to a long term below market deal, and is something you can use on your roster. What I took was a very good young RHD who is blocked long term by Trouba and Fox in your top 4, and a good young goalie who I assume you'd prefer to trade over Shesterkin. The Rangers can still trade DeAngelo at their leisure for a nice return.

    I didn't pull this out of my arse, I got the idea of a Hanifin/Lundkvist basis for a swap from a Rangers fan on here.
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    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 20
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    Quoting: Sagecoll
    lolololol.

    That explains a lot.


    What explains a lot, that you live in a fairy tale world where draft picks and prospects actually have more value than NHL players? Laugh it up while you show me examples of a top prospect or a high draft pick netting multiple NHL players in a trade. I can literally list hundreds where multiple picks and prospects get traded for NHL players, because that's how it works genius.

    Just because you're in love with Nils Lundkvist's potential doesn't mean he's guaranteed to reach it.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 36
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    Definitely Frost instead of Patrick.
    Gaudreau is 90+ point player who drives the play when hes on the ice.

    Isn't Patrick potentially done? I mean he didnt play before the return to play and still not ready to play in the return to play.

    Its probably a low chance hes back at all.
    30 juill. 2020 à 13 h 48
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    Quoting: Trickster
    Definitely Frost instead of Patrick.
    Gaudreau is 90+ point player who drives the play when hes on the ice.

    Isn't Patrick potentially done? I mean he didnt play before the return to play and still not ready to play in the return to play.

    Its probably a low chance hes back at all.


    I think the latest update is that he's been feeling much better, and obviously nobody would ever trade anything of too much value for him unless they did their research first. Still a huge risk though, and his status is a big reason why I think Philly would rather hang onto Frost. If they can get Frost instead of Patrick in this package I'd be pretty happy with that return for Johnny.
     
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