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Bottom 25 players according to WAR

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Date de création initiale: 20 juill. 2020
Publié: 27 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Not my opinion, just their WAR in the 19-20 season

The higher up you are, worse your WAR was.

I know that a lot of these guys are young rookies who werent NHL ready.

Zaitsev was worse with -1.5 WAR, the 2nd worst player, Perlini, only had -1 WAR.

The gap between Zaitsev and Perlini was equal to the gap between Perlini and Jesper Boqvist who was 28th
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DD
M-NTC
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AD, AG
UFA - 1
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AD, AG
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DG
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DG
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DD
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C, AD, AG
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C, AG
M-NTC
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
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DD
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DG
NMC
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, C
RFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 375 000 $3 375 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance60 000 $$60K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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C, AG
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27 juill. 2020 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bet it wouldn't if you had 5 Red Wings in the top25 WAR


English, please. Thanks
27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 41
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Quoting: CD282
Or you play on the PP and in late game situations (empty net).


Like 4 times a season lll
27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 42
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It's an absolutely horrible stat that doesn't take into account the sieve playing between the pipes, who your 4 teammates are, strength of your opponents, or which zone you typically start your shift in.

Alex Ovechkin had a season where he was -35. He's also had +24 and +26 seasons. The stat tells you nothing about your ability to defend.


That explains why Ovechkin has always been said to be shaky at defense.
27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 44
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Quoting: Dan10900
this model (assuming it's EW's) is newer than 2015, I'm p sure they have a write up of skater GAR somewhere, but I can't find it

Also just ignore that two of the most analytically heavy teams (CAR and COL) either made the conference finals last year or have probably the brightest future in the game for any team (also Dubas has put together some good teams, he's just not good at the whole contract negotiations thing lol)


You don't think Arizona is the most analytical team?
I dont agree when it comes to COL and CAR. They both use analytics, but that's not their main evaluation tool.
27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 45
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toronto are the masters of analytics because they moved zaitsev

imagine giving your rivals the worst defensemen in the league for 4 years
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27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 46
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Lol he calls himself the "Tom Wilson of ACGM".

Thats too nice to himself, more like the Raffi Torres of ACGM, 41 games suspension and he still sucks


Are you arguing with yourself again?
27 juill. 2020 à 13 h 59
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You don't think Arizona is the most analytical team?
I dont agree when it comes to COL and CAR. They both use analytics, but that's not their main evaluation tool.


No, ARZ is not an analytics team in the same way most analytics people on the internet would be, Chayka got the job bc he used micro stats from a private black box model, that most public analytics people don't really like, then he went down the rabbit hole of things like brain scans (and probably equipment type and sleep schedules and things like that) that likely have almost no use in evaluating players, and it was shown that he contradicted just about every public model available (and completely disregard normal aging curves which is like the number 1 way to run your team into cap hell)

Idk much about COL's front office, but ik they have a solid analytics team, and some COL fans say their head analytics guy has a lot of control on the organization, and Sakic listens to him a lot, and CAR is 100% an analytics team, they have Eric Tulsky who was one of the pioneers of modern analytics, and still has a lot of relevant studies that he did years ago (also rumors came out last summer that basically what he said went within the organization)
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27 juill. 2020 à 14 h 31
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Quoting: Bf3351
Are you arguing with yourself again?


God you really are psychotic.
Thinking people have backup accounts

@csick @McGruff @bhavikp27 @OldNYIfan @Gofnut999 @Jesus
Lol hes back with the "backup account bs"

Yo your bs actually made some nice guy wanna leave this website: havent seen CatmanV in a while
27 juill. 2020 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
God you really are psychotic.
Thinking people have backup accounts

@csick @McGruff @bhavikp27 @OldNYIfan @Gofnut999 @Jesus
Lol hes back with the "backup account bs"

Yo your bs actually made some nice guy wanna leave this website: havent seen CatmanV in a while


Was CatmanV your other account that got banned indefinitely?
27 juill. 2020 à 14 h 42
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
God you really are psychotic.
Thinking people have backup accounts

@csick @McGruff @bhavikp27 @OldNYIfan @Gofnut999 @Jesus
Lol hes back with the "backup account bs"

Yo your bs actually made some nice guy wanna leave this website: havent seen CatmanV in a while


i had a backup account back then csick123 just because 10 agms a day wasnt enough for me but capfriendly banned it
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27 juill. 2020 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: redw1n9s
English, please. Thanks


" WAR is a pretty stupid stat (as are most advanced stats "

Bet, it (WAR) wouldn't, if you had 5 Red Wings in the top25 WAR.. not hard to understand
27 juill. 2020 à 15 h 7
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Quoting: bhavikp27
" WAR is a pretty stupid stat (as are most advanced stats "

Bet, it (WAR) wouldn't, if you had 5 Red Wings in the top25 WAR.. not hard to understand


Ya.....no
27 juill. 2020 à 15 h 7
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Quoting: csick
i had a backup account back then csick123 just because 10 agms a day wasnt enough for me but capfriendly banned it


Lol thats funny tho, this guy thinks Bhavipk27 (dont wanna tag him again) is my backup
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27 juill. 2020 à 15 h 14
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Was CatmanV your other account that got banned indefinitely?


Not banned. @CatmanV

Look still there hahahahahahahaha god you keep getting rocked

and not my account lol, they woulda banned him if he was
27 juill. 2020 à 15 h 20
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Like 4 times a season lll


Are you talking about a specific player? I was talking about the plus minus stat in general.
27 juill. 2020 à 17 h 3
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Quoting: CD282
Are you talking about a specific player? I was talking about the plus minus stat in general.


I misunderstood you
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27 juill. 2020 à 23 h 6
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Bet it wouldn't if you had 5 Red Wings in the top25 WAR


This is the same stat that didn't have McDavid in the top 25....tell me now, if a top 2 player in the whole league, isn't in the top 25 of the stat compared to his value over a replacement, how good can the stat really be?
 
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