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Could Jesper Fast Be An Option

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Date de création initiale: 24 juill. 2020
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Some Pens fans have suggested that the team should look to sign another Brandon Tanev style player. In this year's free agency, the most comparable player that comes to mind is Jesper Fast. A player that grinds and is solid defensively.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 16 h 29
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      Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


      No one is claiming Jack Johnson off waives especially not the habs we already have too many LD.
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      Johnson wont be claimed on waivers. pass on Mike green. Id take Fast though
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      24 juill. 2020 à 16 h 42
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      You guys would love Fast, it sure would hurt seeing him in a Pens jersey....
      Everyone saw that he filled out a line with Strome and panarin. Imagine how he would look with Crosby and Guentzel. Or Malkin and Zucker. Or at the very least in the bottom 6 with Tanev in the other bottom 6 RW hole. They would be relentless and extremely hard to matchup against
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      24 juill. 2020 à 16 h 54
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      Remember how you had Hagelin? Fast is him, but gives up some offense for better defense
      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 0
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      Quoting: FreeTacosAreBestTacos
      Remember how you had Hagelin? Fast is him, but gives up some offense for better defense


      Fast crushes guys too. Hagelin was more finesse. Fast is tough as nails
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 1
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      Crosby vs Kulak ?
      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 2
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      I dont know too much about fast, but reading the comments above he sounds like the perfect player. Id love a hagelin 2.0.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 9
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      Fast-yes
      I think Murray's gone.
      no Thornton or green.
      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 12
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      I think Fast would be a great option .... but we have so many Forwards kind of like him.

      - Ive just started putting JJ in AHL, It is our best option.....
      Even tho he has had a solid season & could help in playoffs being our only physical guy other than ZAR (when he feels like it)...
      I just think its our best option to save some cap space & not have to give up our limited prospects & picks to trade him.

      - also Simon is not getting more than 1m .... bc of being hurt & not finishing w/ great stats even tho he is really good.

      - I dont kno if id be ok with Green either... Think we need a more Defensive Type RHD as a 3rd pair guy bc Letang & Marino can run PP's ... I actually think Marino could end up passing up both Schultzy & Letang (even tho I love Letang more than another man should love another man, lol) for the #1 point on PP?? Have u noticed every time Marino is on PP at point in scrimmage game he puts a shot directly on net & either scores, creates a rebound for a goal or creates an almost goal every time he is out?? The kid is so good its scary.
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      Johnson wont be claimed on waivers. pass on Mike green. Id take Fast though


      I agree, Ive given up with JJ and just started putting him in AHL, lol
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      Quoting: Sidstick87
      I think Fast would be a great option .... but we have so many Forwards kind of like him.

      - Ive just started putting JJ in AHL, It is our best option.....
      Even tho he has had a solid season & could help in playoffs being our only physical guy other than ZAR (when he feels like it)...
      I just think its our best option to save some cap space & not have to give up our limited prospects & picks to trade him.

      - also Simon is not getting more than 1m .... bc of being hurt & not finishing w/ great stats even tho he is really good.

      - I dont kno if id be ok with Green either... Think we need a more Defensive Type RHD as a 3rd pair guy bc Letang & Marino can run PP's ... I actually think Marino could end up passing up both Schultzy & Letang (even tho I love Letang more than another man should love another man, lol) for the #1 point on PP?? Have u noticed every time Marino is on PP at point in scrimmage game he puts a shot directly on net & either scores, creates a rebound for a goal or creates an almost goal every time he is out?? The kid is so good its scary.


      that Marino snag could've potentially added years to the competitiveness of the Pens. Absolute steal by GMJR.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 22
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      that Marino snag could've potentially added years to the competitiveness of the Pens. Absolute steal by GMJR.


      I agree, I was just saying to someone today that I would sign him to a 5yr - $25m at $5m per - extension this offseason bc if we wait another yr when he is a RFA it could end up costing us $7-$8m per.
      But ur right it could end up being one of the greatest steals ever in NHL trade history just bc of how hard it is to find a #1 RHD & to get one for a 6th Rdr is just INSANE...

      Ive been speculating that Murray ends up in EDM for Bouchard + ... bc all we do is steal great RHD from EDM in trades, lol.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 41
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      Quoting: Campabee
      No one is claiming Jack Johnson off waives especially not the habs we already have too many LD.


      That's your opinion, but that's probably not what the GMs actually think. Teams are always in need of defenceman & Jack has proven he can be serviceable when used in the right situation. Marc Bergevin has shown interest in him in both last offseason and the one before.
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      Modifié 24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 52
      Quoting: Pens3lieve
      Fast-yes
      I think Murray's gone.
      no Thornton or green.


      D9YNwGbXoAAgtN0?format=jpg&name=small

      Thornton has still been a solid player & would be cheap. Why don't you like him? He seems like perfect depth option to me.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 45
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      Quoting: mhockey91
      Johnson wont be claimed on waivers. pass on Mike green. Id take Fast though


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      I think Fast would be a great option .... but we have so many Forwards kind of like him.

      - Ive just started putting JJ in AHL, It is our best option.....
      Even tho he has had a solid season & could help in playoffs being our only physical guy other than ZAR (when he feels like it)...
      I just think its our best option to save some cap space & not have to give up our limited prospects & picks to trade him.

      - also Simon is not getting more than 1m .... bc of being hurt & not finishing w/ great stats even tho he is really good.

      - I dont kno if id be ok with Green either... Think we need a more Defensive Type RHD as a 3rd pair guy bc Letang & Marino can run PP's ... I actually think Marino could end up passing up both Schultzy & Letang (even tho I love Letang more than another man should love another man, lol) for the #1 point on PP?? Have u noticed every time Marino is on PP at point in scrimmage game he puts a shot directly on net & either scores, creates a rebound for a goal or creates an almost goal every time he is out?? The kid is so good its scary.


      Green has been regarded as an offensive defenceman because of his early career production, but over the years, he has seen his role change. He was very good this season, granted in a limited role, but that's all they need. A significant upgrade over Schultz.

      I hope they lock up Marino quickly like 5x7. EcruYYbX0AAUd5w?format=jpg&name=small
      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 48
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      Green has been regarded as an offensive defenceman because of his early career production, but over the years, he has seen his role change. He was very good this season, granted in a limited role, but that's all they need. A significant upgrade over Schultz.

      I hope they lock up Marino quickly like 5x7. EcruYYbX0AAUd5w?format=jpg&name=small


      id rather TVR than green
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      Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
      D9YNwGbXoAAgtN0?format=jpg&name=small

      Thornton has still been a solid player & would be cheap. Why don't you like him? He seems like perfect depth option to me.


      Because Joe is slow that's why. You can have all the fancy stats in the world. He's slow as can be.
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      24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 56
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      id rather TVR than green


      TVR's stats are similar, but he will probably be much more expensive, like 2.5-3 million. So that's why I went with Green.
      24 juill. 2020 à 18 h 1
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      one look at this line up and you know the problem.

      Honrqvist has no business on Crosby's wing and frankly I don't think Crosby likes him there. Which how we end up with Simon.
      Hornqvist is not fast.

      Sid needs faster players around him especially as he gets older. But they have to have a skill set too.

      I think this is the issue with Fast. He'd be a great bottom 6 winger for the penguins. But that isn't their need.
      Tanev is great there, and it's the only place to put Hornqvist unless you can unload him somewhere. So both those slots are filled.

      They need a top 6 RW with a shot. Right handed to play the wall on the PP.
      Fast is never gonna play the wall on the PP.
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      Modifié 24 juill. 2020 à 19 h 47
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      one look at this line up and you know the problem.

      Honrqvist has no business on Crosby's wing and frankly I don't think Crosby likes him there. Which how we end up with Simon.
      Hornqvist is not fast.

      Sid needs faster players around him especially as he gets older. But they have to have a skill set too.

      I think this is the issue with Fast. He'd be a great bottom 6 winger for the penguins. But that isn't their need.
      Tanev is great there, and it's the only place to put Hornqvist unless you can unload him somewhere. So both those slots are filled.

      They need a top 6 RW with a shot. Right handed to play the wall on the PP.
      Fast is never gonna play the wall on the PP.


      Personally, I don't mind Hornqvist on the top line. He played very well with Crosby & Guentzel during the 2017 & 2018 playoffs, they scored a lot of goals & generated plenty of high danger chances. I agree that he is too slow & his body can't handle that type of role for a full season, but I feel he makes too much money to play in the bottom 6.
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      Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
      D9YNwGbXoAAgtN0?format=jpg&name=small

      Thornton has still been a solid player & would be cheap. Why don't you like him? He seems like perfect depth option to me.


      Quoting: pharrow
      Because Joe is slow that's why. You can have all the fancy stats in the world. He's slow as can be.


      what pharrow said. no need for him. the pens play a speed game. vets are overrated and PIT has enough leadership.
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      Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
      Personally, I don't mind Hornqvist on the top line. He played very well with Crosby & Guentzel during the 2017 & 2018 playoffs, they scored a lot of goals & generated plenty of high danger chances. I agree that he is too slow & his body can't handle that type of role for a full season, but I feel he makes too much money to play in the bottom 6.


      But Sid.
      if Sid isn't comfortable with a slow grinder on his line that's his preference. I get he's a bit overpaid especially for a 3rd line role but no one complained when HBK did their thing with Kessel's $6.8M on the 3rd line.
      12-19-72 has the potential to some really nice things this playoffs and __-19-72 (insert one of FA signing, Erod, Simon, Lafferty) next year will be fine and definitely better than Thornton. Hornqvist playing 15 min a night and PP is fine. he's injury prone and gets beat up....he doesn't need more chance to be injured. he needs to be fresh.
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      Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
      Personally, I don't mind Hornqvist on the top line. He played very well with Crosby & Guentzel during the 2017 & 2018 playoffs, they scored a lot of goals & generated plenty of high danger chances. I agree that he is too slow & his body can't handle that type of role for a full season, but I feel he makes too much money to play in the bottom 6.


      it's not about who makes what on what line. It's about can they win.
      And the easiest way to slow down the Crosby or Malkin line is to put Hornqvist on the wing.

      No need to shoot themselves. He goes on the 3rd line which is really the 4th line as the 4th line is really the 3rd at this point.

      I honestly think the penguins should play with that mentality. Put McCann on the top line with Jake and Sid.
      Throw together the 4th line that will play but a handful on minutes a night and be done with it.
       
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