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Équipe: 2020-21 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2020
Publié: 24 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
32 000 000 $
22 500 000 $
55 000 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Sprong, Daniel900 000 $Aucune compensation
Svechnikov, Evgeny900 000 $Aucune compensation
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Fabbri, Robby [Droits de RFA]
DET
  1. Benning, Matthew [Droits de RFA]
2.
EDM
DET
  1. Kassian, Zack
Détails additionnels:
Part of Fabbri Trade
3.
EDM
  1. Murray, Matt [Droits de RFA]
PIT
  1. Jones, Caleb
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
5.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de WPG
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de PIT
Logo de EDM
2022
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2385 500 000 $79 633 532 $341 534 $805 000 $5 866 468 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
808 333 $808 333 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance75 000 $$75K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
DD
RFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
RFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
875 000 $875 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
915 000 $915 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 13
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That’s not going to get you Fabbri. We also aren’t shopping him as he can play center and our center depth is AHL level after Larkin.
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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 15
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Fabbri is our 2C at the moment so we won’t trade him unless we’re getting a player of similar value in return. No point for us trading quality for quantity.
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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 30
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Lol. That MTL trade is just disgusting
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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 33
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Fabbri and Kassian had very similar seasons but since Fabbri is about 5 years younger than Kassian, I think Detroit declines.
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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 44
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MTL decline not even close, Drouin is better than Athanasiou in everything
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24 juill. 2020 à 0 h 50
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Why wouldn’t those teams match those offer sheets?
24 juill. 2020 à 7 h 31
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Besides the comments already made that’s a hell of a package for Murray that’s coming off a down year.
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24 juill. 2020 à 8 h 1
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Quoting: BStinson
That’s not going to get you Fabbri. We also aren’t shopping him as he can play center and our center depth is AHL level after Larkin.


Can he play center though, I'm not sure yet
24 juill. 2020 à 8 h 14
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Why would Detroit trade Fabbri for a position we don't need in RD? How many time need we say that we're set at RD for the foreseeable future. Fabbri is worth more then Benning so we easily decline.
24 juill. 2020 à 8 h 14
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Why would Detroit trade Fabbri for a position we don't need in RD? How many time need we say that we're set at RD for the foreseeable future. Fabbri is worth more then Benning so we easily decline.
24 juill. 2020 à 8 h 22
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Quoting: redwingsfan04
Fabbri is our 2C at the moment so we won’t trade him unless we’re getting a player of similar value in return. No point for us trading quality for quantity.


He was traded for Jacob De La Rose...
24 juill. 2020 à 8 h 58
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Quoting: BStinson
That’s not going to get you Fabbri. We also aren’t shopping him as he can play center and our center depth is AHL level after Larkin.


Quoting: redwingsfan04
Fabbri is our 2C at the moment so we won’t trade him unless we’re getting a player of similar value in return. No point for us trading quality for quantity.


Quoting: Jfstompers
Can he play center though, I'm not sure yet


Fabbri took 66 faceoffs in 52 games this year. He won just 39.4% of them.

He's not a center.

Also, a quick look at Fabbri's on-ice defensive metrics show him to be much worse defensively than Athanasiou, which I didn't think was possible.

No interest in Fabbri from Edmonton's perspective, especially at that price. Benning and Kassian actually contribute positively to the team.
24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 4
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Quoting: Jfstompers
Can he play center though, I'm not sure yet

Won’t know until he tries. He played center through junior so it’s worth a shot.

Quoting: CD282
Fabbri took 66 faceoffs in 52 games this year. He won just 39.4% of them.

He's not a center.

Also, a quick look at Fabbri's on-ice defensive metrics show him to be much worse defensively than Athanasiou, which I didn't think was possible.

No interest in Fabbri from Edmonton's perspective, especially at that price. Benning and Kassian actually contribute positively to the team.

Nothing meaningful happens from a sample size of 66 face offs. He played center his entire time in junior and worst case if he sucks we switch back to center. It’s not like Detroit is a contender.

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He was traded for Jacob De La Rose...

So?
24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 8
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The goalie swap is ridiculous tripe. Koskinen is coming off a year where he posted the 6th best save percentage of the 30 goalies who played in at least 35 games, while Murray was 27th.

Yup, let's trade a whole bunch of assets for a worse goalie, give him a big contract and then give away our best goalie for a mere 3rd. D'oh!
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24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 13
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Nothing meaningful happens from a sample size of 66 face offs. He played center his entire time in junior and worst case if he sucks we switch back to center. It’s not like Detroit is a contender.

Lots of guys played center in junior. It means nothing. And my point was more about the quantity of faceoffs - he clearly didn't play center this year, that's because he isn't one.

You were right to say that Detroit's center depth after Larkin was AHL level, what you missed is that Fabbri wasn't good enough to displace any of those guys.

He's not a center, he's terrible defensively and the Oilers aren't interested.
24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 24
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Lots of guys played center in junior. It means nothing. And my point was more about the quantity of faceoffs - he clearly didn't play center this year, that's because he isn't one.

You were right to say that Detroit's center depth after Larkin was AHL level, what you missed is that Fabbri wasn't good enough to displace any of those guys.

He's not a center, he's terrible defensively and the Oilers aren't interested.

DRW FO has publicly stated they’re going to try him at center. No one ever mentioned he was a center last year but rather we are going to try him there and he was one in junior (so he’d be a 2/3C barring no other moves). He’s also missed time from injuries and I doubt our FO wanted to rush him to center especially when Yzerman said this was a throw away season. Never said the Oilers would be interested (OP isn’t a DRW fan) but it sure as hell would cost more than Kassian and Benning. I don’t want Kassian anywhere near the DRW locker room.
24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 33
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DRW FO has publicly stated they’re going to try him at center. No one ever mentioned he was a center last year but rather we are going to try him there and he was one in junior (so he’d be a 2/3C barring no other moves). He’s also missed time from injuries and I doubt our FO wanted to rush him to center especially when Yzerman said this was a throw away season. Never said the Oilers would be interested (OP isn’t a DRW fan) but it sure as hell would cost more than Kassian and Benning. I don’t want Kassian anywhere near the DRW locker room.


What’s wrong with kass? Oilers wouldn’t consider the deal but why wouldn’t you want him near dressing room? I’ve heard absolutely nothing but positives about his presence in Edmonton and the players also organization loves having him. Don’t really like when people say stuff like that gives a player a bad rep based on absolutely no facts
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24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 41
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Quoting: hockeygm
He was traded for Jacob De La Rose...


And Taylor Hall was traded for Adam Larsson...

Not saying Fabbri is amazing or anything, I’m just saying that he plays a much larger role on the Red Wings than he would on the Oilers and we aren’t getting any futures back so this trade really makes no sense for us.
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24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 45
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Fabbri took 66 faceoffs in 52 games this year. He won just 39.4% of them.

He's not a center.

Also, a quick look at Fabbri's on-ice defensive metrics show him to be much worse defensively than Athanasiou, which I didn't think was possible.

No interest in Fabbri from Edmonton's perspective, especially at that price. Benning and Kassian actually contribute positively to the team.


He played Center in juniors which is his natural position and Detroit’s going to give him a shot next year. Not saying it will work out but he’ll have a chance. Also, 66 face offs is a very small sample size.

I also don’t think it would make sense for Edmonton since they just got AA who is similar to Fabbri in the sense that they both suck at defence.

If Edmonton is happy with their guys and we’re happy with our guy than there’s no point arguing further.
24 juill. 2020 à 9 h 56
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What’s wrong with kass? Oilers wouldn’t consider the deal but why wouldn’t you want him near dressing room? I’ve heard absolutely nothing but positives about his presence in Edmonton and the players also organization loves having him. Don’t really like when people say stuff like that gives a player a bad rep based on absolutely no facts

I highly doubt me stating that gives him a bad rap. Last year alone off the top of my head he kicked Cernak in the chest, the hit on Tanev when he was down, and manhandling Tkachuk who wasn’t even fighting back (questionable based on history). I just want guys near my youngsters that can control their emotions a little better. I’m probably spoiled because growing up watching Detroit have guys like Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Hank as role models on and off the ice. That’s probably why I have preference towards ‘finesse’ puck possession players.
24 juill. 2020 à 10 h 2
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I highly doubt me stating that gives him a bad rap. Last year alone off the top of my head he kicked Cernak in the chest, the hit on Tanev when he was down, and manhandling Tkachuk who wasn’t even fighting back (questionable based on history). I just want guys near my youngsters that can control their emotions a little better. I’m probably spoiled because growing up watching Detroit have guys like Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Hank as role models on and off the ice. That’s probably why I have preference towards ‘finesse’ puck possession players.


I can’t defend the kick that I’m pretty sure didn’t sit right with any oilers fan. Definitely deserved a bigger suspension for that will 100% agree was wrong. The Tkachuk beating was actually very well deserved and proud of him for doing so he actually showed a lot of control in that case it was after the third attempt of a cheap shot before he had enough and did something about it. Has done very good protecting himself and others on the team.
24 juill. 2020 à 10 h 13
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Quoting: Timmah007
I can’t defend the kick that I’m pretty sure didn’t sit right with any oilers fan. Definitely deserved a bigger suspension for that will 100% agree was wrong. The Tkachuk beating was actually very well deserved and proud of him for doing so he actually showed a lot of control in that case it was after the third attempt of a cheap shot before he had enough and did something about it. Has done very good protecting himself and others on the team.


The Tkachuk thing was the refs fault for letting him get away with charging time and again.
24 juill. 2020 à 10 h 21
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I can’t defend the kick that I’m pretty sure didn’t sit right with any oilers fan. Definitely deserved a bigger suspension for that will 100% agree was wrong. The Tkachuk beating was actually very well deserved and proud of him for doing so he actually showed a lot of control in that case it was after the third attempt of a cheap shot before he had enough and did something about it. Has done very good protecting himself and others on the team.

That’s definitely the instance I think comes to most with Kassian is the Tkachuk since the media covered it like a pay per view UFC fight. I think I’d probably take Kassian back on the situation if Tkachuk actually fought him but he got rushed by Kassian after an EDM player hit him if I recall correctly. I’m also probably a little biased with throwing individuals to the ice since that’s what took Mantha out this year.
24 juill. 2020 à 10 h 29
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The Tkachuk thing was the refs fault for letting him get away with charging time and again.

Agreed. Charging and aiming high on that last one. I was personally very proud of kass for unleashing and sending that message.
24 juill. 2020 à 11 h 18
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overpayment for murray
I would rather have AA than drouin
 
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