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Would you make any of these trades for Sean Couturier

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23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 1
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Quoting: JeffW
Avs are a no

Tampa is a maybe


Agreed, and Tampa's is mainly because they shed salary.

If Montreal was a contender, the value there might make some sense as well, but I doubt they'd ever do it. 2 x 1st+2 x 2nd is probably reasonable.
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23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 2
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I'm a Flyers fan and I would take Barkov and Tippett in a heartbeat lol. Not a chance Florida does that.
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 16
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Haha that avs one, delusional
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 19
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Quoting: Richard88
Surprised you guys think so. Cirelli is a comparable Selke-calibre C who's younger and team controlled for another 4+ years, compared to 2 years of Couturier. On top of that the proposal suggests adding a good RHD prospect, a top 6 forward (albeit something of a capdump), and a decent pick. Tampa would never agree to this.


My thinking is; Tampa is in it to win it now and Couturier is currently in his prime (27yrs old). If they place Stamkos back at centre, you're laughing with Couturier playing the third line.
-- Substituting two players for one helps cap wise
-- Who cares for the pick, it's late round, it's defnitely below 10% chance of turning into anything, and certainly not in the short-term
-- Cal Foote doesn't jump as someone who can be a 'great' prospect; he's looking to be a bottom 4 . His younger brother seemed like the far more interesting potential, and yet Tampa had no issues trading him away, because they are 120% all in to win now
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 29
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Quoting: Jo_Habs77
My thinking is; Tampa is in it to win it now and Couturier is currently in his prime (27yrs old). If they place Stamkos back at centre, you're laughing with Couturier playing the third line.
-- Substituting two players for one helps cap wise
-- Who cares for the pick, it's late round, it's defnitely below 10% chance of turning into anything, and certainly not in the short-term
-- Cal Foote doesn't jump as someone who can be a 'great' prospect; he's looking to be a bottom 4 . His younger brother seemed like the far more interesting potential, and yet Tampa had no issues trading him away, because they are 120% all in to win now


The difference between Cirelli and Couturier isn't worth all those assets though. They might as well just roll with Cirelli as 3C if that's the role they have in mind for Couturier.
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 35
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What I'm more concerned with is the fact that the value Flyers are receiving in these trades is different in almost all trades.

Take the VAN and FLA trades for example. Horvat+1st is much more acceptable offer than Barkov+Tippett. The FLA package is three times more valuable than the VAN package.
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 42
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Quoting: Richard88
The difference between Cirelli and Couturier isn't worth all those assets though. They might as well just roll with Cirelli as 3C if that's the role they have in mind for Couturier.


I'd agree for the longterm. But Tampa has so much depth -- you can't treat their acquisitions like other teams -- else it's just a rotation of players and the team levels at the same strength. Even if you think Couturier is only slightly better (I think you still do that trade).
Couturier + Point on the same team... Tampa could potentially have two players in serious Selke conversation. (Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe MTL was the last team to achieve that with Gainey and Carbonneau)
23 juill. 2020 à 13 h 52
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Most of these are extremely in favor of PHI.
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23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 2
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Lets go Oilers
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Quoting: kafle22
with that oilers deal, you may as well get another mcdavid


The OIlers would consider RNH plus pick?
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23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: Timmah007
Ummm I’m not sure what that oilers trade is but I highly doubt Edmonton would even do a 1-1 for nuge. They don’t need him nor should be looking to make a deal for a significant add like that. They got a solid young team not Gunna blow that up for one player


Whaaat? 1 for 1 you would be absolutely insane to not take that
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 19
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Quoting: Cheddamonkey37
Whaaat? 1 for 1 you would be absolutely insane to not take that


Nuge doesn’t get a lot of attention because Leon and mcdavid kinda take up the headlines in Edmonton but nuge is right on level with them as a core player.
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: Timmah007
Nuge doesn’t get a lot of attention because Leon and mcdavid kinda take up the headlines in Edmonton but nuge is right on level with them as a core player.


Man couturier is a top 10 c in the league and edm is my fav team that’s a no brainer to take 1 for 1
23 juill. 2020 à 15 h 5
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The OIlers would consider RNH plus pick?


coutuerier is a two way beast so he has more value than RNH so probably RNH and a prospect/ a first for coutuerier
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23 juill. 2020 à 16 h 16
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IDK if you are serious about that Florida trade
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23 juill. 2020 à 16 h 44
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Sorry to the fans of other teams. Some of these are ridiculous and I love Coots and think he is definitely our best player overall. We have zero reason to move him anyway. Coots,Hayes and Frost down the middle and if Patrick returns he can play 3RW.....decent depth in my opinion.
24 juill. 2020 à 17 h 28
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...what the everloving **** is this insanity? I wouldn't trade Jones and Bjorkstrand together for Connor ****ing McDavid, let alone Couturier by himself.
25 juill. 2020 à 13 h 15
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Lets go Oilers
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Quoting: kafle22
coutuerier is a two way beast so he has more value than RNH so probably RNH and a prospect/ a first for coutuerier


Yeah you are right RNH plus 2020 1st Deal?
25 juill. 2020 à 13 h 27
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Yeah you are right RNH plus 2020 1st Deal?


probably
27 juill. 2020 à 10 h 59
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Quoting: Brigid1011
Sorry to the fans of other teams. Some of these are ridiculous and I love Coots and think he is definitely our best player overall. We have zero reason to move him anyway. Coots,Hayes and Frost down the middle and if Patrick returns he can play 3RW.....decent depth in my opinion.


I don't understand the apology?? It was just a Would you/What if trade scenario for arguably the best two way player right now. Not to mention this is just for fun.
 
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