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Équipe: 2020-21 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2020
Publié: 23 juill. 2020
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23 juill. 2020 à 10 h 23
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Newhook+
23 juill. 2020 à 10 h 27
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one of newhook or byram, burakovsky, 1st. honestly that probably doesn't even do it
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23 juill. 2020 à 10 h 29
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To much
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23 juill. 2020 à 10 h 34
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Quoting: Bdawwwgy1
one of newhook or byram, burakovsky, 1st. honestly that probably doesn't even do it


LMAO you are dreaming. Byram is a no go.
COL would be trading to add a top 6 F, why would they then trade away Bura to deduct 1 top 6 F?
Newhook + 1st + lesser prospect is absolute most youd get
23 juill. 2020 à 10 h 50
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Another guy Chicago traded away for peanuts. At least it allowed them to keep Seabrook though.

That aside, he's not available. Carolina has no incentive to move him.
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23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 1
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Another guy Chicago traded away for peanuts. At least it allowed them to keep Seabrook though.

That aside, he's not available. Carolina has no incentive to move him.

My reasoning for it is if Landeskog asks for too much money, Teuvo can be a replacement.
23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 3
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LMAO you are dreaming. Byram is a no go.
COL would be trading to add a top 6 F, why would they then trade away Bura to deduct 1 top 6 F?
Newhook + 1st + lesser prospect is absolute most youd get


Then you're not getting Teuvo. CAR has absolutely no reason to trade him, and he's on a great contract. If you're not willing to give up quality to get quality, they you won't be able to make deals like this. You may be unwilling to pay the price tag, but to suggest that it's a ridiculous ask is in itself ridiculous.

Over the past two seasons:
Rantanen 1.1 ppg -- current age = 23 -- current contract = 5 years at $9.25m
Landeskog 0.94 ppg -- current age = 27 -- current contract = 1 year at ~$5.5m
Teravainen 0.93 ppg -- current age = 25 -- current contract = 4 years at $5.25m

Teravainen is on a steal of a contract and his producing at nearly a point-per-game pace. That will cost A LOT to acquire. A late first + a good prospect in Newhook + a lesser prospect that you didn't even bother naming is not good enough to acquire Teravainen from a team that has 0 reasons to consider trading him.
23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 24
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Quoting: villenash
Then you're not getting Teuvo. CAR has absolutely no reason to trade him, and he's on a great contract. If you're not willing to give up quality to get quality, they you won't be able to make deals like this. You may be unwilling to pay the price tag, but to suggest that it's a ridiculous ask is in itself ridiculous.

Over the past two seasons:
Rantanen 1.1 ppg -- current age = 23 -- current contract = 5 years at $9.25m
Landeskog 0.94 ppg -- current age = 27 -- current contract = 1 year at ~$5.5m
Teravainen 0.93 ppg -- current age = 25 -- current contract = 4 years at $5.25m

Teravainen is on a steal of a contract and his producing at nearly a point-per-game pace. That will cost A LOT to acquire. A late first + a good prospect in Newhook + a lesser prospect that you didn't even bother naming is not good enough to acquire Teravainen from a team that has 0 reasons to consider trading him.


Why would you quote me? This isnt my AGM.
AGM was proposed by someone else, I gave my take. No need to quote me to challenge the whether or not he would be moved. I discuss whats proposed.

CAR doesnt move Tera, COL doesnt move Byram, trade doesnt work
23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: McRanteskog
Why would you quote me? This isnt my AGM.
AGM was proposed by someone else, I gave my take. No need to quote me to challenge the whether or not he would be moved. I discuss whats proposed.

CAR doesnt move Tera, COL doesnt move Byram, trade doesnt work


You challenged the value, he gave you justification behind the value that was set. Pretty simple, friend.
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23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 34
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Why would you quote me? This isnt my AGM.
AGM was proposed by someone else, I gave my take. No need to quote me to challenge the whether or not he would be moved. I discuss whats proposed.

CAR doesnt move Tera, COL doesnt move Byram, trade doesnt work


Relax. The OP just posted a question with no actual trade involved about what it would take to acquire Teravainen, and you gave your response to a different user other than OP. That's how this site works... just defend your ideas and don't get upset when someone else thinks differently from you.

I agree -- Teravainen doesn't get moved and Byram doesn't get moved.
23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 34
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COL and CAR are bad trade partners, to many similar needs and strengths
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23 juill. 2020 à 11 h 44
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COL and CAR are bad trade partners, to many similar needs and strengths


Yeah, we both have great depth in the same positions (i.e. forward and LHD), so I don't think we're great trade partners. Unless we're simply trading prospects or picks (eg. I'd be interested in acquiring Roland McKeown for example).

Carolina have zero need to trade Teravainen so this will never happen. It would have to be Newhook++ but that doesn't make sense from Colorado's perspective as we need Newhook to be our future 2C.

That said, Carolina do need a goalie upgrade, and if for whatever reason Sakic decides to move on from Grubauer this offseason then I would think Carolina would be a prime destination for him, given that Carolina actually offered Washington a better deal (i.e. a higher 2nd) than we offered Washington for Grubauer in 2018. For now there's no reason to move Grubauer, but that could change if he flops and/or if Francouz takes the starting role in the playoffs.
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23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 38
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LMAO you are dreaming. Byram is a no go.
COL would be trading to add a top 6 F, why would they then trade away Bura to deduct 1 top 6 F?
Newhook + 1st + lesser prospect is absolute most youd get


teuvo is one of the better wingers in the league lol. you aren't getting him for a prospect, a late first and a B level prospect. Bura is a big time downgrade from TT.
23 juill. 2020 à 12 h 43
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teuvo is one of the better wingers in the league lol. you aren't getting him for a prospect, a late first and a B level prospect. Bura is a big time downgrade from TT.


Never stated you couldnt get more/better package elsewhere.
My point was that Byram wouldnt be included, period.
Then moving onto the remaining pieces, COL needs to add one top 6 F so including Bura to add Teuvo means they still need to add another top 6 F (essentially not filling there true need of adding one F).
They just arent compatible trade partners
23 juill. 2020 à 14 h 43
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Carolina will trade Bean + Bokk + 1st for Rantanen
 
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