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Créé par: reelkena
Publié: 20 juill. 2020 à 13 h 31
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 41/186 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 675 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: -3 875 357 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Montour, BrandonSabres de BuffaloLNH-3 387 500 $111---5451318--
Johansson, MarcusSabres de BuffaloLNH-4 500 000 $111---6092130--
Mittelstadt, CaseyExempté du ballottageSabres de BuffaloMineures-0 $011---31459--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Murray, MattPenguins de PittsburghLNH-3 750 000 $111-------2.870.898
Bjugstad, NickPenguins de PittsburghIR-4 100 000 $011---13112--
Warsofsky, DavidPenguins de PittsburghMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial10 550 357 $2245613410
Variation37 500 $-100010
Final10 587 857 $ (↑)21 (↓)456135 (↑)10-17-380

Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPenguins de Pittsburgh

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 000 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 3 316 250 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Murray, MattPenguins de PittsburghLNH-3 750 000 $111-------2.870.898
Bjugstad, NickPenguins de PittsburghIR-4 100 000 $011---13112--
Warsofsky, DavidPenguins de PittsburghMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Montour, BrandonSabres de BuffaloLNH-3 387 500 $111---5451318--
Johansson, MarcusSabres de BuffaloLNH-4 500 000 $111---6092130--
Mittelstadt, CaseyExempté du ballottageSabres de BuffaloMineures-0 $011---31459--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 683 750 $2547673510
Variation-37 500 $1000-10
Final2 646 250 $ (↓)26 (↑)476734 (↓)10173855
20 juill. 2020 à 13 h 34
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Pit gets a better piece back (maybe) in Mittlestadt. They still get rid of Bjugstad's contract and Montour still comes.
Buf gets rid of Mojo who does not look good in Buf. They get Murray who they would love to have. Warsofsky put up a bunch of points in the AHL but has holes.

The risks are also minimal. Pit was moving Murray anyway. The prospect is mild. Buf was moving Montour anyway, Mittlestadt is mild.

PS: I wanted to send Conor Sheary back in this trade just so he could go Pit-Buf-Pit-Buf but that guy needed a break.
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20 juill. 2020 à 14 h 20
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I don’t believe Buffalo would move Johansson, he has excellent chemistry with Kahun. They also don’t give up Mittelstadt unless not including him is the dealbreaker. Buffalo has plenty of defensive prospects and does not need any more.
20 juill. 2020 à 14 h 42
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I don’t believe Buffalo would move Johansson, he has excellent chemistry with Kahun. They also don’t give up Mittelstadt unless not including him is the dealbreaker. Buffalo has plenty of defensive prospects and does not need any more.


we can swap the prospect for a forward I'm sure. If you wanna keep a 9 goal scorer making 4.5 because of chemistry then I can't really help there.
20 juill. 2020 à 14 h 48
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Personally, I’d pass if I were the Sabres. I can’t see giving up three pieces for a goalie (as the main piece returning) who’s numbers struggled last year. I’d rather have Ullmark starting.
20 juill. 2020 à 15 h 35
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Personally, I’d pass if I were the Sabres. I can’t see giving up three pieces for a goalie (as the main piece returning) who’s numbers struggled last year. I’d rather have Ullmark starting.


You're not giving up 3 pieces. Mojo is a cap dump. He's part of the enticement of the other two. He's very bad. Like really really not good. If you want Ullmark though, that's fine that's a separate argument.
20 juill. 2020 à 16 h 50
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I think the Sabres might be giving up too much, considering Murray’s and RFA and Bjugstad is injured 3/4ths of the time
20 juill. 2020 à 16 h 51
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I think the Sabres might be giving up too much, considering Murray’s and RFA and Bjugstad is injured 3/4ths of the time


Montour is also an RFA so it's really just Casey.
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20 juill. 2020 à 20 h 39
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You're not giving up 3 pieces. Mojo is a cap dump. He's part of the enticement of the other two. He's very bad. Like really really not good. If you want Ullmark though, that's fine that's a separate argument.

I def want a goalie, just not this one.
20 juill. 2020 à 22 h 49
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I def want a goalie, just not this one.


Thats fine. I can understand that. It's a very different conversation than the Mojo has good chemistry so he's worth something thing. This one I can't argue. If you want a different available goalie then we can do that. I'll post a new trade.
21 juill. 2020 à 13 h 39
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@MJCrv TBH as a Pens fan, I'm with you on not wanting Murray, and it sucks to say that; he's just been way too inconsistent since Fleury left. That doesn't mean you couldn't get legit value for him, it just means that I personally am not the biggest fan. Getting him in a trade is a long term commitment as well and he is due for a fat raise. Overall, I hope they trade him over Jarry, and that's saying something. But league wide I'd imagine he would carry more value due to his playoff success and great numbers a couple of seasons ago, although as a GM I would be extremely hesitant to give him a deal over 3 years, and even that would be tough for me. You know he is going to want 5+.

@reelkena Like I said, I'm biased, but I do like this trade for the Pens. Montour is a question mark, and if he sucks, then this deal falls apart quick. For me I would be willing to sign him to another short term deal, but in todays NHL, what follows from a bridge deal is usually a more legitimate long term one. Much like with Murray, I'd be hesitant to give Montour a deal like that, but if somebody has watched a lot of him and has an opinion (maybe @MJCrv) I'd be all ears.

Either way, you're right, and Mittlestadt is rather inconsequential. Maybe he has a resurgence under Sullivan but it looks more like the kid just wasn't as good as his draft position. It happens. Johansson though, is interesting to me. He just had a solid AF playoffs for Boston last season. He is on an expiring deal. And if he got traded to us we would most likely not honor his trade protection. So if he sucked, we could flip him at the deadline to a team on the bubble, but if he was good, we might get another banner. Low key would be happy to have him here, he'd be the most legit 3C we had since Bonino left.
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