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Johnny Hockeys New Home

Créé par: vmark
Publié: 18 juill. 2020 à 13 h 33
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 41/186 (22%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Flames de CalgaryFlames de Calgary

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 894 166 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: -802 917 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gaudreau, JohnnyFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 750 000 $111---70184058--
Rittich, DavidFlames de CalgaryLNH-2 750 000 $111-------2.970.907
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Murray, MattPenguins de PittsburghLNH-3 750 000 $111-------2.870.898
Bjugstad, NickPenguins de PittsburghIR-4 100 000 $011---13112--
Riikola, JuusoPenguins de PittsburghLNH-850 000 $111---36167--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 697 083 $2445603612
Variation800 000 $011000
Final2 497 083 $ (↑)2446 (↑)61 (↑)3612-16-330

Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPenguins de Pittsburgh

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 000 000 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 3 316 250 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Murray, MattPenguins de PittsburghLNH-3 750 000 $111-------2.870.898
Bjugstad, NickPenguins de PittsburghIR-4 100 000 $011---13112--
Riikola, JuusoPenguins de PittsburghLNH-850 000 $111---36167--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gaudreau, JohnnyFlames de CalgaryLNH-6 750 000 $111---70184058--
Rittich, DavidFlames de CalgaryLNH-2 750 000 $111-------2.970.907
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial2 683 750 $2547673510
Variation-800 000 $0-1-1000
Final1 883 750 $ (↓)2546 (↓)66 (↓)3510163349
18 juill. 2020 à 13 h 41
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I'm a pens fan and I'm very high on Matt Murray. This would be highway robbery for the pens. Bjugstad is never playing and riikola is barely an nhl player. The only way I see a package like this working isnif lucic also comes back, and the pens have no cap space to do so.
18 juill. 2020 à 14 h 3
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Why would Calgary do this?
18 juill. 2020 à 14 h 18
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@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.
18 juill. 2020 à 15 h 27
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@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.


I do believe that Murray will be traded, I just think that it is considerably lopsided for the Pens.
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18 juill. 2020 à 15 h 30
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I do believe that Murray will be traded, I just think that it is considerably lopsided for the Pens.


Agreed. If Bjugstad wan’t injured so much and wasn’t a center, and Riikola was proven and was worth a little more, then yes.
21 juill. 2020 à 11 h 37
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@Yojimbo They need a long term answer in net. It wasn't too long ago that Murray and Vasilevsky were the two best young G in the league. Calgary is also loosing a bunch of D to FA and actually need to fill out their blue line. I added Riikola as a sweetener but it addresses a need for them.

But you're right they probably don't move Gaudreau for anybody and we probably don't move Murray for anybody.

@LetsGoPens29 I wouldn't say highway robbery. CGY needs a long term answer in net and Matt Murray is a young RFA with two Cups who they could sign for a long time. Unless they retained more than half of Lucic's salary we would never do that. The thing is, this addresses a need for both teams, and we have Jarry still.


I just think that the only asset with considerable gaudreau value is Murray. I'd say Murray, poulin/legarre and a pick would be more fair if you could get the cap to work.
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21 juill. 2020 à 13 h 28
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@LetsGoPens29 Well Riikola has legit NHL minutes and could slot into a bottom pairing role there no problem. CGY is a win now team so I took that into consideration; they would most likely want legit roster players as opposed to futures.

Bjugstad, while clearly injured a bunch this past season, is also a legit NHL player, even if he is a little bit underwhelming when you look at his numbers. He would also be on an expiring deal. Looking back at this trade I would say we might have to retain a little of salary to move Byoogs at this point, just because he's been so injured, but before that, we could have gotten a 2/3 rd pick for him no problem.

Should have moved him before the season but Rutherford didn't shop him enough. That was a mistake. Granted, I also thought they should have looked into trading Rust before the season, so hindsight is assuredly 20/20.
28 juill. 2020 à 13 h 30
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@LetsGoPens29 Well Riikola has legit NHL minutes and could slot into a bottom pairing role there no problem. CGY is a win now team so I took that into consideration; they would most likely want legit roster players as opposed to futures.

Bjugstad, while clearly injured a bunch this past season, is also a legit NHL player, even if he is a little bit underwhelming when you look at his numbers. He would also be on an expiring deal. Looking back at this trade I would say we might have to retain a little of salary to move Byoogs at this point, just because he's been so injured, but before that, we could have gotten a 2/3 rd pick for him no problem.

Should have moved him before the season but Rutherford didn't shop him enough. That was a mistake. Granted, I also thought they should have looked into trading Rust before the season, so hindsight is assuredly 20/20.


I'm high on riikola and I know Bjugstad had been injured but I just don't see the value outside of Murray. Maybe if they added in a second or a lesser prospect I'd be more comfortable with it.
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@LetsGoPens29 I feel you on that. Like I said it's hard to evaluate Bjugstad at this point in his career, although so far he has played pretty dece when healthy. He's also a very big boy.

But I'd be completely comfortable with them including guys like Simon or Lafferty with NHL experience.

But if you're saying you think they'd want a future over an NHLer I might have to disagree with you there.
 
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