Radical Rebuild

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Créé par: Gordon_Bombay

Équipe: 2020-21 Ducks d'Anaheim

Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2020

Publié: 14 juill. 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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This team would be terrible, but they have no expensive players to resign and would go through 1 year of pain and then they can grow for 3 years.

Free Cap in Season +1 = 14.91 (to resign Steel, Heinen and Jones should be enough I think)
Free Cap in Season +2= 12.625
Free Cap in Season +3= 11.5

Other than me being crazy and radical once again, how do you see the values of those trades?

I think the Rangers would be happy with another good centre at that cap

The habs would get a good player, while getting rid of Alzner

Vancouver would get cap space they really need. especially next season

the Pens a cheap good winger to keep the Crosby, Malkin window alive

Buffalo could solve their 2nd line centre problem

and Dallas could reduce cap, while also becoming on of the very best top 4 Ds in the NHL

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Milano, Sonny	3	2 300 000 $
Terry, Troy	2	1 500 000 $
Larsson, Jacob	3	3 000 000 $

Transactions

ANA

Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYR)

NYR

Getzlaf, Ryan (4 125 000 $ retained)

ANA

Alzner, Karl
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MTL)

MTL

Silfverberg, Jakob

ANA

Baertschi, Sven
Eriksson, Loui
Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (VAN)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VAN)

VAN

ANA

Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)

PIT

Rakell, Rickard

ANA

Ladd, Andrew
Wahlstrom, Oliver
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (NYI)

NYI

Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (VAN)

ANA

Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
Okposo, Kyle
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)

BUF

Henrique, Adam

ANA

Cogliano, Andrew
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DAL)

DAL

Manson, Josh (2 050 000 $ retained)

Rachats de contrats

Corey Perry: 6 625 000 $
Simon Despres: 0 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Ryan Getzlaf: 4 125 000 $ (50%)
Josh Manson: 2 050 000 $ (100%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	81 500 000 $	77 848 610 $	0 $	537 500 $	3 651 390 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Milano, Sonny 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Heinen, Danton 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Deslauriers, Nicolas 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Jones, Max 863 333 $863 333 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Steel, Sam 863 333 $863 333 $ C, AG RFA - 1	Terry, Troy 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD UFA - 3
Baertschi, Sven 3 366 666 $3 366 666 $ AG UFA - 1	Rowney, Carter 1 133 333 $1 133 333 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Wahlstrom, Oliver 894 167 $894 167 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 3
Eriksson, Loui 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cogliano, Andrew 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 3

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Fowler, Cam 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 6		Gibson, John 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ G UFA - 7
Lindholm, Hampus 2 602 778 $2 602 778 $ DG UFA - 2	Gudbranson, Erik 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Stolarz, Anthony 750 000 $750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Djoos, Christian 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Larsson, Jacob 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 2
	Alzner, Karl 4 625 000 $4 625 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Agozzino, Andrew 700 000 $700 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1		Backes, David 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ C, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
Ladd, Andrew 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3		Kesler, Ryan 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ C, AD NMC UFA - 2

14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 38

Lenny7

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1 year of pain?

This franchise would be doomed for a decade. So-Cal becomes the Buffalo of the West. You might as well trade Gibby and Hampus too, and free this from this death sentence you just gave the organization.

14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 47

Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

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Feel like someone would do that for Getzlaf but it's not NYR

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14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 48

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: Lenny7

1 year of pain?

Why do you think so? The Ducks are already one of the worst teams in the league. Every team is losing a player next season and the Ducks would be one of those teams who would not really lose any value. Also, they could use on of their draft picks to get a players other teams don't want to protect and could really load up draft picks.

They were bad last season and bad this season, so why not just break everything down. This team is going nowhere

14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 53

Lenny7

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

I don't know, I'm of the opinion that you add a top 4 RHD, and a scoring threat up front to take some of the pressure off of the younger guys, and all of the sudden you're a threat to make the playoffs again. Gibby can steal a lot of games, and is one of the top goalies in the league, but I wouldn't put him in the situation posted above. If you're ripping it apart, you might as well rip the roots out as well, because that's what's going to net you the biggest return (I do not endorse ripping it apart...).

14 juill. 2020 à 7 h 11

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: Lenny7

Well, a Top 4 RHD and a scoring threat are coming at a price too and I am not if they would make the playoffs like that. I agree with Gibson, but he is not old yet and it cannot be much worse than it is now for him.

14 juill. 2020 à 7 h 32

Salzy

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You might be able to get 2 seconds for silf without taking Alzner, easily get a 1st ++ for taking Alzner AND giving Silf

You get more than that if you take on Eriksson especially in division

Rakell fetches more than a (Presumably) late 1st

Ladd doesnt cost more than Alzner and Eriksson to dump

Not a fan of the Henrique trade at all

Don't hate the Manson and Getz deals though I dont see them happening

"Dallas could reduce cap, while also becoming on of the very best top 4 Ds in the NHL"
They player Manson is now probably doest play in DALs top 4 tbh they dont really need him, 2017 Manson yes, 2020 Manson no

Overall I get what you were trying to do but I think you arent getting enough value back with most of these if they did happen or at least you dont need to take on bad contracts to get the value of some of these players

14 juill. 2020 à 7 h 56

pharrow

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

ANA has already started the rebuild. They did that buying out Perry, Kesler on LTIR and after next year Getzlaf contract will be off the book too along with Backes and Guddy.

They are gonna clear a lot of cap space after next year. And of course have some picks in early rounds.
The only older players really there are Henrique, and Silfverberg. Their contracts going till they are 34 so not too bad.

If they were going to move guys it would be them. But why? They would only return late 1st round picks. It's not worth moving them.

14 juill. 2020 à 7 h 58

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Habs are not giving up that much for anything other than a number 1 center

14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 10

Gordon_Bombay

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Quoting: Salzy

I don't disagree with you. I just rather start a discussion with getting not enough, rather than doing crazy things.

I think you are right with Rakell, proabably should include a solid prospect or so as well, but it seems to me that Rakell would be a player Pittsburgh would like.

I was thinking that Ladd would get more because his contract is longer.

What do you dislike about the Henrique trade specifically?

And yes, I don't think this will happen either, but I'd rather do that then not being competitive for some years and wait till no value is left in the veterans like Detroit did

14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 12

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Quoting: HabsFan9

Habs are not giving up that much for anything other than a number 1 center

Tell me in which world you are getting a nr. 1 centre for two second round picks + a cap dump?

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14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 17

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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay

I see what Zucker got and I see that as the floor of Rakells Value

I think they would just bury Ladd before paying that price, if that is the cost of dumping him (could be)

Less than 0 interest in Middlestat honestly, a 1st a third and Okposo is an underwhelming return to me. Yeah that might be his value but it doesnt really get me excited. To be fair I've been watching Henrique for 15 years when he played for my local junior team so I definitely value him more than what he's worth. but I think he could fetch a 1st by himself a third and Middlestat for taking Okposo is meh

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14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 23

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Quoting: Salzy

I think the Isels are a very competitive team right now, but with litte cap space, so I don't know.

Aha I see, me on the other hand still see a lot of upside in Mittelstadt, even if he did not do much far. But there again, I could see him getting a bigger return. But the need in Buffalo would be there I think

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14 juill. 2020 à 9 h 2

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That's a tad steep for Ladd. I would remove Wahlstrom and swap him for a lesser prospect. Maybe Sebastian Aho or Otto Koivula. Arthur Staple speculated Ladd could be on Robidas Island/LTIR next season. So it may be Boychuk or something the Isles try to ditch in a similar move

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14 juill. 2020 à 9 h 49

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Benning isn't giving up a 1st to move Eriksson's contract. Probably Demko would be attached to him. Fat chance that Lou gives up both Wahlstrom and a 1st to move Ladd and Getzlaf isn't waiving so not happening, No freaking way you're getting 5 1st round picks for any of those deals those aren't cash strapped teams you're dealing with other then possibly Vancouver because of bad signings from jim Benning.

15 juill. 2020 à 17 h 55

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What in the holy hell are the Ducks supposed to do with NINE first rounders and FOUR second rounders over the next two seasons? Might as well trade away the rest of our picks because there literally won't be room in the organization for all of them. Never mind how unnecessarily awful this team will be for half a decade. AND capped out!

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Radical Rebuild

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ANA

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ANA

PIT

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DAL

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