SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

Predictions with Lafreniere

Créé par: Blazingbat11
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 juill. 2020
Publié: 14 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Haven't done one of these in a while. Since this is all hypothetical. NCAA cancels its season. Habs sign Caufield but intend to send him to CHL, but he blows everyone's mind at camp playing with Lafreniere, so they become inseparable!

STL re-signs Pietrangelo, trade Dunn to Habs for best return possible knowing an offersheet (with only a 2nd rd pick compensation) incoming that they won't be able to match (from any team).

Caufield gets a 40 goal rookie seasons (but we all have a laugh because he only ends up with like 8 assists) and Laf gets a 70 pts rookie season (with about 20g + 50a) but loses out the calder trophy to Kaprizov. Suzuki becomes a legit top two-way Center. Tatar-Danault-Gally put up the same numbers as the last two years. KK stays in the AHL to develop his 1C game on a line with Ylonen and Poehling (officially converted to LW). Blood bath / logjam for spots at RD with Juulsen surprising everyone showing top 4 potential and Fleury proving he's here to stay but worrying signs of slow down +injuries from both Weber and Petry....
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
46 250 000 $
1925 000 $
1925 000 $
44 150 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Lafreniere, Alexis
3925 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Dunn, Vince [Droits de RFA]
STL
  1. Mete, Victor [Droits de RFA]
  2. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de WSH
Logo de MTL
Logo de ANA
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de FLA
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
2021
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de STL
Logo de VGK
Logo de MTL
Logo de OTT
Logo de PHI
Logo de MTL
2022
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 144 642 $0 $657 500 $5 355 358 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Lafreniere, Alexis
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
771 666 $771 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
DD
RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Lafreniere, A.
Avantage numérique 2
Infériorité numérique 1
Infériorité numérique 2

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
14 juill. 2020 à 2 h 56
#1
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 13,144
Mentions "j'aime": 10,516
Well those predictions are certainly bold.

Ignoring all of the crazy stuff, I don’t think that Juulsen making the team & showing to 4 potential wouldn’t surprise everyone, since he’s just starting from where he left off before the injury.
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 0
#2
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
Well those predictions are certainly bold.

Ignoring all of the crazy stuff, I don’t think that Juulsen making the team & showing to 4 potential wouldn’t surprise everyone, since he’s just starting from where he left off before the injury.


Juuslen (taking away his injuries) has always been a contentious prospect among Habs fans. I've always been high on him, but I know many aren't. At least when it comes to top 4 potential.

Apart from the Caufield and Laf stuff, I don't think it's too far out lol what do you think of the Dunn situation?
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 11
#3
Cold spaghetti
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2019
Messages: 4,917
Mentions "j'aime": 2,134
Dunn would be a VERY good pickup for the Habs
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 17
#4
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: bunzy1034
Dunn would be a VERY good pickup for the Habs


old-spice-nod.gif
bunzy1034 a aimé ceci.
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 17
#5
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 13,144
Mentions "j'aime": 10,516
Quoting: Blazingbat11
Juuslen (taking away his injuries) has always been a contentious prospect among Habs fans. I've always been high on him, but I know many aren't. At least when it comes to top 4 potential.

Apart from the Caufield and Laf stuff, I don't think it's too far out lol what do you think of the Dunn situation?


I don’t like the idea of trading for Dunn. I feel like this trade is only something a team that needs to win immediately would do. And even then, I don’t know if they would even do it. While I do think that we can afford to overpay for Dunn, I don’t think it makes sense to give up valuable assets just to make us a bit better in the short term. We won’t contend in the short term, so it’s pretty useless. I also don’t see how Dunn is that much of an upgrade over Mete. Not to mention the fact that his $4 million cuts into the limited cap space we have to re-sign our FAs.

I would much rather acquire an asset by taking Allen/Steen off the Blues hands so that they can sign Dunn than paying to get Dunn.
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 29
#6
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
I don’t like the idea of trading for Dunn. I feel like this trade is only something a team that needs to win immediately would do. And even then, I don’t know if they would even do it. While I do think that we can afford to overpay for Dunn, I don’t think it makes sense to give up valuable assets just to make us a bit better in the short term. We won’t contend in the short term, so it’s pretty useless. I also don’t see how Dunn is that much of an upgrade over Mete. Not to mention the fact that his $4 million cuts into the limited cap space we have to re-sign our FAs.

I would much rather acquire an asset by taking Allen/Steen off the Blues hands so that they can sign Dunn than paying to get Dunn.


Well for one I think Dunn is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mete, in almost every aspect other than skating. I also don't see how it's short sighted when you're trading for a 23 year old top 4.

But yeah Habs can always hope STL sign Pietrangelo and have Dunn get to FA. An offer sheet of this contract would only cost MTL a 2nd... but I highly doubt STL would let it get to that point, hence why they would trade him for the best possible offer, or do as you say, ship out Allen / Steen with additional assets to make room to sign him. It's definitely a tricky situation for STL with a flat cap.
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 36
#7
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 14,042
Mentions "j'aime": 5,158
Dunn isn’t THAT better than Mete, if you look at Mete’s number he’s pretty good. If Mete was putting 30 points nobody would complain about is game, yes he’s small and needs to bring more offense, but I wouldn’t trade him + Struble for Dunn. Keep the Greek God and Norlinder, Harris can go before those 2.
Kotkaniemi15 a aimé ceci.
14 juill. 2020 à 3 h 39
#8
Former Hockey Fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 13,144
Mentions "j'aime": 10,516
Quoting: Blazingbat11
Well for one I think Dunn is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mete, in almost every aspect other than skating. I also don't see how it's short sighted when you're trading for a 23 year old top 4.

But yeah Habs can always hope STL sign Pietrangelo and have Dunn get to FA. An offer sheet of this contract would only cost MTL a 2nd... but I highly doubt STL would let it get to that point, hence why they would trade him for the best possible offer, or do as you say, ship out Allen / Steen with additional assets to make room to sign him. It's definitely a tricky situation for STL with a flat cap.


IDK, from what I’ve seen Dunn doesn’t seem to be anything special. And I’d be apprehensive of trading Struble in a Dunn deal at all, and it’s much worse when we’re using a good prospect to upgrade a 2nd pairing defenseman to another 2nd pairing defenseman.

And I don’t know how important Dunn can be when his own GM decides to sign Marco Scandella to a fairly generous contract before him. So either the GM prioritizes signing an older player while there is absolutely no pressure to get anything done or they’re already convinced that they’ve lost Pietrangelo, in which case they’re keeping Dunn.
GMs et BorisBagel a aimé ceci.
14 juill. 2020 à 4 h 3
#9
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 14,042
Mentions "j'aime": 5,158
Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
IDK, from what I’ve seen Dunn doesn’t seem to be anything special. And I’d be apprehensive of trading Struble in a Dunn deal at all, and it’s much worse when we’re using a good prospect to upgrade a 2nd pairing defenseman to another 2nd pairing defenseman.

And I don’t know how important Dunn can be when his own GM decides to sign Marco Scandella to a fairly generous contract before him. So either the GM prioritizes signing an older player while there is absolutely no pressure to get anything done or they’re already convinced that they’ve lost Pietrangelo, in which case they’re keeping Dunn.


Pretty sure when they trade for Faulk Pietro said he was leaving so they can have Parayko-Faulk-Bortuzzo RHD
14 juill. 2020 à 4 h 41
#10
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: GMs
Dunn isn’t THAT better than Mete, if you look at Mete’s number he’s pretty good. If Mete was putting 30 points nobody would complain about is game, yes he’s small and needs to bring more offense, but I wouldn’t trade him + Struble for Dunn. Keep the Greek God and Norlinder, Harris can go before those 2.


I was actually between Struble and Harris when choosing who to put in the deal lol still undecided but put Struble anyway.
GMs a aimé ceci.
14 juill. 2020 à 5 h 12
#11
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: GMs
Dunn isn’t THAT better than Mete, if you look at Mete’s number he’s pretty good. If Mete was putting 30 points nobody would complain about is game, yes he’s small and needs to bring more offense, but I wouldn’t trade him + Struble for Dunn. Keep the Greek God and Norlinder, Harris can go before those 2.


Quoting: Kotkaniemi15
IDK, from what I’ve seen Dunn doesn’t seem to be anything special. And I’d be apprehensive of trading Struble in a Dunn deal at all, and it’s much worse when we’re using a good prospect to upgrade a 2nd pairing defenseman to another 2nd pairing defenseman.

And I don’t know how important Dunn can be when his own GM decides to sign Marco Scandella to a fairly generous contract before him. So either the GM prioritizes signing an older player while there is absolutely no pressure to get anything done or they’re already convinced that they’ve lost Pietrangelo, in which case they’re keeping Dunn.



Disagree on Mete. I've seen enough of Mete for the past 3 season to know what he is imo a #5 Dman with fringe top 4 abilities. If Habs plan on using him like a #5 Dman, that works for me and he can be pretty good. And for sure he will still get better imo. But what is an optimized / improved, experienced Mete? He still won't be able to shoot from the point, still have zero physical game, and still be very limited offensively since he's not a PP guy either. His game off the rush is solid and has super speed for a transition game (which explains some of his success with the Habs having a great 5v5 game, Mete plays a role in that). But also, Mete's only real success is when he was with Weber. Once he got bumped down he basically disappeared into obscurity. and we all know Mete paired up with Weber just isn't a viable option moving forward.

Dunn on the other hand is a more complete player. He can skate, plays on the PP, has a solid shot from the point. And looking at hockey reference.com, Dunn still puts up better 5v5 numbers than Mete...So Dunn has a more complete game, is more versatile, and has consistently been better offensively than Mete. I don't think it's even close, and yes I think the difference is massive .

You're right about the Scandella signing...that's really puzzling. lol
14 juill. 2020 à 5 h 19
#12
mokumboi
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2019
Messages: 29,040
Mentions "j'aime": 11,250
Blues laugh and hang up, obviously.



Quoting: GMs
Pretty sure when they trade for Faulk Pietro said he was leaving so they can have Parayko-Faulk-Bortuzzo RHD



Umm no, you're imaging that.
14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 38
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 14,042
Mentions "j'aime": 5,158
Quoting: mokumboi
Blues laugh and hang up, obviously.


Why did they trade for Faulk then if they already have Pietro and Parayko



Umm no, you're imaging that.
14 juill. 2020 à 6 h 50
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2017
Messages: 1,769
Mentions "j'aime": 491
Dunn would have to sign the offer sheet. I’m not sure what sane player looks at both rosters and the chance of winning a Cup and then picks Montreal.
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 20
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2019
Messages: 1,659
Mentions "j'aime": 711
NOOO!!! lol...just, no!
I'm really tired of seeing a diminutive Montreal team. Strubble will be a great 3/4 or 5/6 D with size and strength.
Replacing Mete with Dunn isn't much of an upgrage IMO. Losing Strubble plus a 2nd rounder makes it that much harder.
In all honesty, Habs need to get bigger, not smaller.
Imagine these 5 players on the ice at the same time: Caufield, Domi, Gallagher, Mete, Dunn.
14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 20
#16
Subbanator
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2017
Messages: 7,316
Mentions "j'aime": 3,328
Quoting: BluesBandit
Dunn would have to sign the offer sheet. I’m not sure what sane player looks at both rosters and the chance of winning a Cup and then picks Montreal.


the one that wants to make more money
14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 45
#17
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: BluesBandit
Dunn would have to sign the offer sheet. I’m not sure what sane player looks at both rosters and the chance of winning a Cup and then picks Montreal.


I’d think seeing $4mil aav over multiple years with MTL instead of a 1or 2 year deal at less than $2mill would change a lot of players minds....don’t you think?!
14 juill. 2020 à 8 h 49
#18
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: mokumboi
Blues laugh and hang up, obviously.


You’re not at all worried about an offer sheet of the same value I signed Dunn to?
14 juill. 2020 à 11 h 8
#19
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2016
Messages: 33,053
Mentions "j'aime": 8,999
Caufield is going back to Wisconsin, And St Louis doesn't accept that offer on Dunn.
14 juill. 2020 à 12 h 9
#20
Habs_fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2020
Messages: 670
Mentions "j'aime": 158
HABS dont need to trade for Dunn, he's a RFA. Offer sheet him for 4.2 million. St Louis won't be able to match and just give up a 2nd round pick
14 juill. 2020 à 19 h 26
#21
Démarrer sujet
Molson beer is meh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 3,815
Mentions "j'aime": 1,734
Quoting: p1015983
HABS dont need to trade for Dunn, he's a RFA. Offer sheet him for 4.2 million. St Louis won't be able to match and just give up a 2nd round pick


I said this in another comment, but I highly doubt STL would let it get to that point. Either they decide to keep him and do other moves to make room for him, or they decide they can’t afford him and trade him to the highest bidder before he hits FA.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage