You'll be fine without Draisaitl.

why is this even a trend

Ya, you can’t have Draisaitl. He’s a superstar on a cheap contract in a time where capspace is worth a premium.

I disagree with most of this, but yeah you're not getting Draisaitl

Disagree with what?

No, I disagree with him being a superstar. I believe in order to be a true superstar, he has to show it's sustainable over a 3 year period (it's why I never jump on hype trains with kids). I also disagree with his contract being cheap. Only what, 7 players make more than him and 3 of them are Maple Leafs? Otherwise, I agree with your sentiment

Yeah that’s all very fair, though two 100+ point seasons in a row is quite promising. Also I still think 8.5 million is definitely below market value for what he brings to the table.

I mean if 215 points in 153 games doesn't make you a superstar I dunno how the hell you rate the players.

Draisaitl is absolutely a superstar, and the most valuable player of this season. And based on the trend of the new contracts, Draisaitl's contract is very cheap due to it's term. Many significantly weaker players get close the same amount with only 3 year contracts.

It’s not bad value
BUT
Does that trade make EDM a legit Cup Contender?
Bc if not, then u gotta think they keep Draisaitl & continue to build around him & McDavid

153 games isn't a large enough sample size. Ideally, I'd want 246, but obviously that can't always be achieved. Draisaitl has not proved he's a superstar, and to say he was more valuable than McDavid disproves you already. Draisaitl's deal isn't cheap, because he's not a superstar. MacKinnon is cheap, Draisaitls is not. When was the last time you saw someone get 8.5x3? C'mon man.

Just out of curiosity I went and checked his statistics from last 246 games as you ordered. 124+182=306. 3rd mosts points in the whole league from that point on to today. Those are superstar numbers, EASILY.

Yes, Draisaitl was more valuable than McDavid this season. Can you even read, man?

And I said close to the same amounts. For example Point got 6,75x3 with the QO of $9M. Tkachuk got 7x3 with the QO of $9M. Meier got 6x4 with the QO of $10M. Those all players are getting more money in the same timeframe that Draisaitl's current contract will expire... And none of them are in Draisaitl's level, but all of their contracts are long term significantly worse. That's how Draisaitl's contract will get cheap in due time.

MacKinnon's current contract was made in July 2016. He was a 50-60 point C back then. Of course his contract seems now cheaper since his game (and Avs's in general) took a big step up. NOT exactly a comparable deal.

Anything else you like me to dispute? No? Good.

That's 3 years and 1 1/2 playing on McDavid's wing. I want to see 3 on a seperate line. McDavid still contributes to 60%+ of Draisaitl's point totals. Not a superstar easily.

Drai was not more valuable than McDavid LMAO. That's a great joke though

None of those players make as much as draisaitl. To have a high QO, it needs to have lower base salary elsewhere, which balances out the cap. So, no.

It's a fine comparable LMAO. MacKinnon was always like this, they just gave him some help xD

Anything else you want to be proved wrong on? No? Good.

Umm...you seem to forget the fact that even though Draisaitl's stats are upgraded by playing with McDavid, it's not like McDavid stats would be as high either if he wasn't playing with such a good player as Draisaitl is.

Draisaitl is the most likely Hart trophy winner. That literally means that he was the most valuable player this year.

Not any of those players will make it YET, but they will be making much more than Draisaitl in a matter of few years because of those QOs. Overall their current contracts plus their next contracts if signed to QO minimum will total up to more money that Draisaitl makes - and this is why Draisaitl is relatively cheap. I don't know how you can't see this.

MacKinnon wasn't this good back in 2016.

And yeah I'm pretty much done talking with you. Anything you say makes 0 sense so there's no bother wasting time here with you.

I don't think Edmonton would like to touch the Weber contract. So you could say that Neal vs Weber is both just for cap reasons, but Neal's contract is shorter, so I'd rather have Neal
The value is just not there. Draisaitel is a top 5 forward in the NHL

Dude, 60% of Draisaitl's points are from McDavid over the past 3 years LOL. He's not a superstar in his own right.

Draisaitl SHOULDN'T win the hart, that doesn't make him the MVP if he wins it.

They're not comparables mate, that's the points. They're not making the money drai is. It's why Drai isn't a steal.

MacKinnon was arguably better in 2016

And yeah, you're clearly dumb. Anything you say is absolute horsesh*t so don't bother replying.

Yeah Holland isn't trading Leon Draisaitl, And those pieces are nowhere near enough for him anyways.

Can we all just agree that as soon as everyone saw that Shea Webber's contract was included, we should have probably just clicked "Back" so we never would have had to see this again?

Instead, people are arguing about which superstar is less of a superstar.

Being cheap. An 8.5M cap hit or nearly 10% of the cap isn’t cheap. It’s a good contract, but it isn’t a MacKinnon type contract.

Caniac2000 is just playing with you. He has know clue what he's talking about. Leon's last 4 year have been great and if we go back 5...he was decent then as well.

Everyone remembers Leon in the playoffs on his own line. He dominated the playoffs and was the Oilers best player. MCDAVID IS THE BETTER OVERALL PLAYER. However, when Leon is on top of his games, he's definitely top 5...maybe top 3. When he's not he's still top 10. Everyone knows it.

1. McDavid 2. McKinnon 3. Kucherov 4. Draisaitl 5. Crosby
*Leon could be ahead of Kucherov. (he is this year)

6-10 - Pastrnak, Kane, Matthew's, Marchand, Panarin.

Just missed - Malkin, Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel and OV

Put McDavid and Leon on a team with good D and better surrounding players they'd possibly be 1 & 2.

* McKinnon, Crosby, especially Kucherov have a way better team around them from the back to the front...well Pitts back end is a little weak as well...not as bad as Edmonton.

Pastrnak was on the bubble for top 5, but his team is sick. Bottom too top. His numbers drop on the Oilers.

As to his (Leon) contract. You are correct. As of today it's a great contract. He'd get 11 million plus if signed today.

Let this guy say his crap and move on. The stats don't lie.

OIls add Poojarvis and Chiasson, Habs add Poehling and Evans

I mean I was discussing with a guy that have claimed in this one post that Aho+Slavin for Eichel+Dahlin is a bad trade for Canes so I didn't expect much.