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Créé par: Silkysmooth42
Équipe: 2020-21 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2020
Publié: 11 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Instead of commenting on each post ill just do it here:

IF they are going to make a stab at Boeser, the offer will absolutely include but not be limited to Kase.
If they get Boeser, Kase will just be a waste of cap space (considering they arent playing him on the 3rd line)
So lets just start with that.

Also, they will not give up Vaak or Stud. They are the best two prospects in the system, and for a team who needs to move him to make space for players, "beggers cant be choosers". Its not gonna lower his value MUCH, but they certainly arent getting that piece from the bruins

So if you are missing Kase
or are including Stud/Urho, just be cautious

In saying that: I am gonna start with an overpay to make sure im not called a "homer" etc lol
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Again this is definitely a major overpay, but id rather do that than be called biased lol
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11 juill. 2020 à 21 h 53
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think they could have had him conner and chabot in the draft.
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Vancouver declines its gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy
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think they could have had him conner and chabot in the draft.


Half the league could have too... whats your point?
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Vancouver declines its gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy


HAHAHAHAHAHA thats the funniest thing i have ever seen
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Half the league could have too... whats your point?


i guess so lol
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lol how the heck is this a "major overpay"
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lol how the heck is this a "major overpay"


a 1st, a fringe 2nd liner who is still really young, and two decent prospects. Its more than most of the trades i have seen, but at least its not just dumb like "gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy"
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HAHAHAHAHAHA thats the funniest thing i have ever seen


Laugh all you want but as far as I'm concerned a 23 year old prospect with little to no development in the AHL and a 24 year old who can barely make the lineup are both worthless
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Half the league could have too... whats your point?


my point is that boston is so good but with those players they would be unbelievable..
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Vancouver declines its gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy


Carlo, then it's already close, you just need to add a pick/B prospect but if it's McAvoy (it won't), VAN would need to add.

Neither will be moved so let's forget that
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Vancouver declines its gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy


Mcavoy definitely not, I could see a Carlo for Boeser deal working out maybe
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Laugh all you want but as far as I'm concerned a 23 year old prospect with little to no development in the AHL and a 24 year old who can barely make the lineup are both worthless


Then go watch basketball.

Hockey is a sport with a 21 player roster. MANY guys will develop in their own time and get the chance to play. Not just the 20 year old star prospects.

If you think that a college grad (Kuhlman) and a player stuck behind 5 other LHD (Zboril) are worth nothing. Then you just dont know hockey im sorry
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Mcavoy definitely not, I could see a Carlo for Boeser deal working out maybe


It leaves us with no top4 RD. It doesn't work.
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Mcavoy definitely not, I could see a Carlo for Boeser deal working out maybe


Carlo and a 3rd for Boeser and some solid RHD maybe?
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Then go watch basketball.

Hockey is a sport with a 21 player roster. MANY guys will develop in their own time and get the chance to play. Not just the 20 year old star prospects.

If you think that a college grad (Kuhlman) and a player stuck behind 5 other LHD (Zboril) are worth nothing. Then you just dont know hockey im sorry


You don't trade a star player for depth pieces, cry about it all you want I could care less
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Carlo and a 3rd for Boeser and some solid RHD maybe?


I could throw in Stecher
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Carlo and a 3rd for Boeser and some solid RHD maybe?


Yeah maybe Carlo, Zboril, and a 2nd for Boeser and Stecher. I could see something like that
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You don't trade a star player for depth pieces, cry about it all you want I could care less


1st - not a depth piece
Kase - not a depth piece
Zboril and Kuhlman - not actually depth pieces, they are prospcts are just because YOU dont understand their value, doesnt mean they dont have value
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
a 1st, a fringe 2nd liner who is still really young, and two decent prospects. Its more than most of the trades i have seen, but at least its not just dumb like "gonna have to start with either Carlo or Mcavoy"


wouldn't call them decent prospects, both are pretty bad. Even so, that's not great for a top line RW who's young and on a very solid contract.
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I could throw in Stecher


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Yeah maybe Carlo, Zboril, and a 2nd for Boeser and Stecher. I could see something like that


Meh, he can play top4 but more of top6, at least now. Pass
11 juill. 2020 à 22 h 9
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1st - not a depth piece
Kase - not a depth piece
Zboril and Kuhlman - not actually depth pieces, they are prospcts are just because YOU dont understand their value, doesnt mean they dont have value


The 1st is essentially a 2nd so it's just a random shot in the dark, Kase wouldn't even make our top 6 so he is a depth piece, and Zboril and Kulman are B level prospects at best
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Quoting: bhavikp27
It leaves us with no top4 RD. It doesn't work.


Quoting: bunzy1034
Yeah maybe Carlo and, Zboril and a 2nd for Boeser and Stecher. I could see something like that


Thats too much: but yeah stetchers the guy i was thinking of, forgot his name lol.
im not gonna say Carlo is equal, but its fairly clear that thats too much

remember: Carlo and Boeser are about equal if they were the same position: Currently Top 6 (Top 4 dman), have potential to be Elite but most likely do have a high top 6 (top 4) cap.

So fine, Carlo and zboril for Boeser and Stetcher? BUT again: idk if the bruins do it because it diminishes the top 4 defense whereas we could still get a top 6 forward for less (not a 23 year old one, but still)
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wouldn't call them decent prospects, both are pretty bad. Even so, that's not great for a top line RW who's young and on a very solid contract.


Top 6 RW. Hes on a stinky team dont forget.
And again, No. "both are pretty bad" literally just shows that you dont care to learn about other teams prospects
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The 1st is essentially a 2nd so it's just a random shot in the dark, Kase wouldn't even make our top 6 so he is a depth piece, and Zboril and Kulman are B level prospects at best


I remember when the bruins took pasta at 25. Kase should 100% make the top 6 on the canucks (especially if they trade Boeser) so not sure where thats coming from. And ok yeah B level prospects still hold some value.
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Wouldn't say you're a homer, but just as Canucks fans overvalue Boeser I think you've done the same for Zboril.

His final year was easily his best year in junior, but three straight 19 point seasons in the AHL doesn't show a promising trajectory for growth.

I don't know a lot about Kuhlman so I can't say much, but I think he's in the same boat as Zboril in the eyes of the Canucks. They're a team on the cusp of playoffs (in a normal year) and in moving a potential thirty-goal scorer they'd be looking for something that can help push the team forward immediately instead of a few years down the road. I don't see a lot of RHD depth in the Bruins system so prying Carlo would be very difficult (McAvoy is a no-go from Boston) but that would be the type of player the Canucks would ask for in my opinion. A lateral player-type move that addresses an immediate need in the system. Zboril, Kuhulman, and a 2021 pick that will probably be mid-late 20's doesn't do that.
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