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Marner Trade

Créé par: Capitalfail67
Équipe: 2020-21 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2020
Publié: 11 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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oh gawd idk why i did this.... im fully prepared though to hear why Carlson sucks or how Protas isn't good.....its also a late 1st
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RFAANSCAP HIT
54 250 000 $
31 750 000 $
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WSH
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Détails additionnels:
#1 D A prospect and 1st seems fair.... also frees up 2m in cap

Carlson's age is the biggest issue with this trade imo
TOR
  1. Carlson, John
  2. Protas, Aliaksei
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (WSH)
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WSH
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
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11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 44
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Deal. I don't know too much about Protas, but i would do Marner for Carlson and a First easily
11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 49
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Quoting: KileDoobis
Deal. I don't know too much about Protas, but i would do Marner for Carlson and a First easily


Protas imo is an A- big center from the WHL. 80 points in 58 games..... Cozen had 85 in 51 games.... people will all have different opinions on that comparison but hes definitely a great prospect to add
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Protas imo is an A- big center from the WHL. 80 points in 58 games..... Cozen had 85 in 51 games.... people will all have different opinions on that comparison but hes definitely a great prospect to add


In that case it feels almost like an overpay for Marner in a vaccuum, although Carlsons age does seem like it could be a major factor. Well done on this trade, seems like realistic value, if not a likely scenario.
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11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: KileDoobis
In that case it feels almost like an overpay for Marner in a vaccuum, although Carlsons age does seem like it could be a major factor. Well done on this trade, seems like realistic value, if not a likely scenario.


imo if Carlson was a 90 point 23 year old it would be a 1 for 1 but his age played a major factor in this
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11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 3
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I don't think Carlson is replaceable for Washington, and adding another big forward contract probably isn't the best in the long term.
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I don't think Carlson is replaceable for Washington, and adding another big forward contract probably isn't the best in the long term.


cant really argue with that. Carlson is a massive part of the Washington capitals and their success.
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 6
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Dubas would piss his pants laughing if this was actually presented.. wouldnt be able to answer due to laughing at how ridiculously bad this is. An aging dman on the downward swing, a 3rd rd draft pick that has done very little (other than be big) and 1st rd pick, likely to be in the 20s, in next years not very deep draft.... how amazingly bad is this?


lol you made a ghost account write such a silly comment. typical. Carlson is on a downward swing? solid take... Protas just had a killer year ("done very litte") and a late 1st?
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 11
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Quoting: Sean4417
Dubas would piss his pants laughing if this was actually presented.. wouldnt be able to answer due to laughing at how ridiculously bad this is. An aging dman on the downward swing, a 3rd rd draft pick that has done very little (other than be big) and 1st rd pick, likely to be in the 20s, in next years not very deep draft.... how amazingly bad is this?


What in the world?? Do you watch hockey? John Carlson is coming off his best year in the NHL, was the best defenceman this year in the league. Was on pace for 89 points which is absolutely mind-blowing. Carlson is not on a downward swing, in fact nowhere close. A decent prospect as well as a first definitely favours Toronto. I really hope you were kidding
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 13
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
lol you made a ghost account write such a silly comment. typical. Carlson is on a downward swing? solid take... Protas just had a killer year ("done very litte") and a late 1st?


only a Caps supporter would think this malarky is a good deal.. news flash - it isnt
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 14
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What in the world?? Do you watch hockey? John Carlson is coming off his best year in the NHL, was the best defenceman this year in the league. Was on pace for 89 points which is absolutely mind-blowing. Carlson is not on a downward swing, in fact nowhere close. A decent prospect as well as a first definitely favours Toronto. I really hope you were kidding


I was also confused by his comment... idk how you score at a 90ish point pace and are on a "downward swing". his account is 24 hours old so I assume hes trolling or banned already for being "intelligent"
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11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 15
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only a Caps supporter would think this malarky is a good deal.. news flash - it isnt


irony is that you're the only leafs's fan so far that thinks its not fair lmfao.... im not going to feed you anymore but your comments are just lazy and not well thoughtout
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 18
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What in the world?? Do you watch hockey? John Carlson is coming off his best year in the NHL, was the best defenceman this year in the league. Was on pace for 89 points which is absolutely mind-blowing. Carlson is not on a downward swing, in fact nowhere close. A decent prospect as well as a first definitely favours Toronto. I really hope you were kidding


yep... makes a lot of sense to trade a 23c year old 90 pts forward for a 30 year old dman thats never played defence, a mediocre prospect with distorted numbers and late 1st rd draft pick.... how asinine a deal is this????
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30 year old dman thats never played defence


its time for big brain comments
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irony is that you're the only leafs's fan so far that thinks its not fair lmfao.... im not going to feed you anymore but your comments are just lazy and not well thoughtout


yep... quoting facts and stats is lazy... just because Ive proved how bad you were at this is no reason to have a hissy fit pout
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 21
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its time for big brain comments


don't feed the troll please.... if you ignore him he'll just go away.. ha
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don't feed the troll please.... if you ignore him he'll just go away.. ha


this lunacy is just another example of how homers over value their own and undervalue whats on the other side... theres not GM in the league that would give up Marner for that. Whats next youre going to deal Panik and a couple 1st rd picks for Connor McDavid???
11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 58
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Quoting: Sean4417
Dubas would piss his pants laughing if this was actually presented.. wouldnt be able to answer due to laughing at how ridiculously bad this is. An aging dman on the downward swing, a 3rd rd draft pick that has done very little (other than be big) and 1st rd pick, likely to be in the 20s, in next years not very deep draft.... how amazingly bad is this?


Cough cough homer detected. Carlson is the best offensive defenceman in the NHL & is gonna win the Norris, Protas is an elite prospect & you get a 1st. How isn't this a good deal for Toronto?
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11 juill. 2020 à 15 h 59
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I don't think Carlson is replaceable for Washington, and adding another big forward contract probably isn't the best in the long term.


Marner & Backstrom with Ovechkin...Ovi is gonna hit 1000 goals for sure.
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11 juill. 2020 à 16 h 5
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don't feed the troll please.... if you ignore him he'll just go away.. ha


I gotta admit, you did a very good job. I think Toronto will need to retain some salary if Washington is going to give up that much. I won't be making a Marner to Washington post for my series, since I think it will be hard to beat yours.
11 juill. 2020 à 16 h 9
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I gotta admit, you did a very good job. I think Toronto will need to retain some salary if Washington is going to give up that much. I won't be making a Marner to Washington post for my series, since I think it will be hard to beat yours.


Carlson age eliminates the need to retain salary and that’s why capitals need to add
11 juill. 2020 à 16 h 20
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The Caps #1 problem is D. Your AGM gambles hard on three very young guys actually delivering, two 6/7's potentially playing second pair (Kempny/Jensen), and only two legit NHL D.

Marner adds some long term firepower, but adding an $11M forward probably isn't the direction that the Caps need to go.
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Quoting: Sean4417
this lunacy is just another example of how homers over value their own and undervalue whats on the other side... theres not GM in the league that would give up Marner for that. Whats next youre going to deal Panik and a couple 1st rd picks for Connor McDavid???


Man that's EXACTLY what you were doing earlier in this thread. You heavily undervalued every trade piece from the caps in a poor attempt to demonstrate how terrible the trade is. You literally defined yourself as a homer
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11 juill. 2020 à 19 h 25
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Quoting: theBeer_Leaguer
Man that's EXACTLY what you were doing earlier in this thread. You heavily undervalued every trade piece from the caps in a poor attempt to demonstrate how terrible the trade is. You literally defined yourself as a homer


Lmfao he said Carlson was in a “downward swing”. He’s the front runner for the Norris. I just ignore people like him bc they are just idiots... I don’t like to encourage them bc it’s like a kink for them.
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