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Trading the 1st Overall Pick

Créé par: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Date de création initiale: jui 11, 2020
Publié: 11 jui à 12 h 58
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Mikheyev, Ilya42 800 000 $
Gauthier, Frédérik1735 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Spezza, Jason1700 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Drysdale, Jamie3925 000 $
Byfield, Quinton3925 000 $
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TOR
  1. 2020 1e round pick (TOR)
CAR
  1. 2021 1e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. 2020 1e round pick (SJS)
  2. 2020 1e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. Dermott, Travis [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
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TOR
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TOR
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TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
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Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 4
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
2 800 000 $
AG, AD
RFA
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Byfield, Quinton
925 000 $
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
1 250 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
TOR
Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
UFA
TOR
Barabanov, Alexander
925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
735 000 $
C
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Lehtonen, Mikko
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
TOR
Holl, Justin
2 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
TOR
Campbell, Jack
1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
TOR
Sandin, Rasmus
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
TOR
Liljegren, Timothy
863 333 $
DD
RFA - 2

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11 jui à 12 h 59
#1
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ott declines if they have any faith in their scouting staff at all
11 jui à 13 h 01
#2
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If the Leafs somehow land the 1st Overall pick, I'd be 99% for the team trading it, if it helps fill the teams holes to create a Cup Dynasty. But that's unlikely...so keep the pick.
11 jui à 13 h 01
#3
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Quoting: leafs101
ott declines if they have any faith in their scouting staff at all


What do you mean? PIck #3 is a no brainer. Take whoever's left of Byfield and Stuzle.

Pick #5 isn't hard either. Either go Rossi, Drysdale or Raymond.
11 jui à 13 h 01
#4
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Quoting: leafs101
ott declines if they have any faith in their scouting staff at all


Imagine it would be buffalo. and then it would be like. Ohh. We actually fired all our scouts smile But I would trade that pick. Maybe with a team like New Jersey that has like two top 10 picks
11 jui à 13 h 01
#5
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There would be very little to no motivation for either of these teams to entertain this concept.

Unrealistic IMO.
11 jui à 13 h 03
#6
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
If the Leafs somehow land the 1st Overall pick, I'd be 99% for the team trading it, if it helps fill the teams holes to create a Cup Dynasty. But that's unlikely...so keep the pick.


Well this solves the #1 RHD problem for the future.
11 jui à 13 h 04
#7
Rhianna gets it
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No chance they're are trading both picks for 1st. One of them plus a prospect and/or an rfa is the most I'd do
11 jui à 13 h 05
#8
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seriously, just draft Laf
11 jui à 13 h 06
#9
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Quoting: CMac66
No chance they're are trading both picks for 1st. One of them plus a prospect and/or an rfa is the most I'd do


The only prospect that makes sense is Brannstrom. I don't think any others (other than Tkachuk who is untouchable) get you up to #1.
11 jui à 13 h 06
#10
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Sens will more likely trade DOWN in the Draft, after selecting 3rd Overall, maybe secure a proven young star to help them contend now, while still grabbing a late 1st Rd'er to add to the NYI pick.
11 jui à 13 h 07
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Well this solves the #1 RHD problem for the future.


does it? Like, even in the top 5 you arnt guarenteed a 1#RHD of the future or anything. Unless you plan on trading it for a current guy like Makar, but then why does colorado (or whoever) do it?
11 jui à 13 h 07
#12
Rhianna gets it
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
The only prospect that makes sense is Brannstrom. I don't think any others (other than Tkachuk who is untouchable) get you up to #1.


Brannstrom and the 3rd or 5th? I'm probably saying no. Definitely not Tkachuk
11 jui à 13 h 11
#13
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Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
Sens will more likely trade DOWN in the Draft, after selecting 3rd Overall, maybe secure a proven young star to help them contend now, while still grabbing a late 1st Rd'er to add to the NYI pick.


Not a chance they trade down. Why would they trade down? Look how many picks they have in the first 2 rounds.

The only reason I could think of that they trade down is if they want Askarov.

Quoting: CMac66
Brannstrom and the 3rd or 5th? I'm probably saying no. Definitely not Tkachuk


I don't know. Value wise I'd think the 3rd but I think Leafs might say yes to the 5th if Drysdale is still available.
11 jui à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
Not a chance they trade down. Why would they trade down? Look how many picks they have in the first 2 rounds.

The only reason I could think of that they trade down is if they want Askarov.



I don't know. Value wise I'd think the 3rd but I think Leafs might say yes to the 5th if Drysdale is still available.


I don't think sens would. I think dorion loves Brannstrom. But you never know
11 jui à 13 h 22
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

Not a chance they trade down. Why would they trade down? Look how many picks they have in the first 2 rounds.

The only reason I could think of that they trade down is if they want Askarov.


Personally I would entertain offers for the 5th pick if I was GM, this is a pretty deep Draft and a late 1st Rd'er could still have the same potential as a Top 5-10 pick.
11 jui à 13 h 32
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
What do you mean? PIck #3 is a no brainer. Take whoever's left of Byfield and Stuzle.

Pick #5 isn't hard either. Either go Rossi, Drysdale or Raymond.


If Ottawa has faith in their scouts, the don't even consider 3+5 for 1. Lafreniere isn't more valuable than the 3rd and 5th best players.
11 jui à 13 h 33
#17
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
What do you mean? PIck #3 is a no brainer. Take whoever's left of Byfield and Stuzle.

Pick #5 isn't hard either. Either go Rossi, Drysdale or Raymond.


No pick is a no brainer (ok. maybe CMD and Crosby were) . Ask Edmonton with Yakupov and to some degree also with RNH. Griffin Reinhard was supposed to be a franchise D. The list goes on.
11 jui à 14 h 40
#18
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If the Leafs were to win the 1st pick, I think they'll wait to see if Lafreniere pans out before making any blockbuster trade. If he does deliver the expectation, I could see them move Nylander or even Marner for a top defenseman.
11 jui à 19 h 48
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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
No pick is a no brainer (ok. maybe CMD and Crosby were) . Ask Edmonton with Yakupov and to some degree also with RNH. Griffin Reinhard was supposed to be a franchise D. The list goes on.


The Edmonton scouts actually voted for Murray but the GM ignored them.

Lafreniere is supposedly in the same tier as Crosby and CMD.
12 jui à 4 h 52
#20
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Quoting: Leafs_and_Sens_Fan
The Edmonton scouts actually voted for Murray but the GM ignored them.

Lafreniere is supposedly in the same tier as Crosby and CMD.


Nothing against Laf, but he is just not the player the other 2 were. It is just the classic hype before every draft
 
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