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Équipe: 2020-21 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2020
Publié: 11 juill. 2020
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11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 45
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you left yourself 20 million dollars for next season to sign 10 players, including svechnikov and hamilton.

good luck.
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11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 49
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Yeah Detroit passes not giving up the 2nd round and 6th round pick for a 32 year old backup with one year left. Do Helm and Reimer straight up one for one that's about it.
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11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
you left yourself 20 million dollars for next season to sign 10 players, including svechnikov and hamilton.

good luck.


And this didn't leave much room for their best goalie prospect...by a mile...Pytor Kochetkov.
11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 52
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
you left yourself 20 million dollars for next season to sign 10 players, including svechnikov and hamilton.

good luck.


I see Svech getting a similar deal to Kyle Connor, except a little more expensive, and Hamilton at a range somewhere between 8-9M AAV. Having Denisenko, David Cotton, (maybe) Bokk, and lots of matured budget depth in the AHL level helps a lot.
11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 53
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Yeah Detroit passes not giving up the 2nd round and 6th round pick for a 32 year old backup with one year left. Do Helm and Reimer straight up one for one that's about it.


Helm for Reimer 1-for-1? Hahahahahaha no way. Reimer had a very good rebound season this year, while Helm is a fringe player these days. You certainly need a good draft pick to balance out the deal.
11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 55
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
Helm for Reimer 1-for-1? Hahahahahaha no way. Reimer had a very good rebound season this year, while Helm is a fringe player these days. You certainly need a good draft pick to balance out the deal.


Then Detroit passes. It makes no sense for a rebuilding team to trade a 2nd round pick for a fringe starter.
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11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: redwingsfan04
Then Detroit passes. It makes no sense for a rebuilding team to trade a 2nd round pick for a fringe starter.


I just used Detroit as an example. Reimer can easily return a 3rd or a 4th by himself, and maybe even a late 2nd in a 50% retained situation. He was one of the better platoon goalies in terms of analytics this season. Including Helm's bad contract enhanced the draft pick return.
11 juill. 2020 à 11 h 59
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Detroit passes a 2nd for 32yr old with 1 year left on his contract. There is a plethora of other options for a team looking for a backup goalie.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 0
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I see Svech getting a similar deal to Kyle Connor, except a little more expensive, and Hamilton at a range somewhere between 8-9M AAV. Having Denisenko, David Cotton, (maybe) Bokk, and lots of matured budget depth in the AHL level helps a lot.


ok, so thats 16 million dollars, you have 4 million to sign 8 players and the league minimum is 750k
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11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 4
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ok, so thats 16 million dollars, you have 4 million to sign 8 players and the league minimum is 750k


Then you have the Expansion Draft, where Seattle is likely to accept one of Nino/Trocheck/Skjei for a draft pick/prospect. That frees up another 5 million. Again, only Svech and Hamilton are likely to cost a lot of cap space, so 9 million for 8 players is pretty doable, especially if a few of them are ELCs or ELC-like, like Cotton, Denisenko, McKeown, Lorentz, etc.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 5
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Then you have the Expansion Draft, where Seattle is likely to accept one of Nino/Trocheck/Skjei for a draft pick/prospect. That frees up another 5 million.


and then you have to pay necas and company.
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11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 9
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
and then you have to pay necas and company.


Necas is an easy pay. Nino and Trocheck expires right when Necas is up. The main obstacle to the roster is 2020-2021, but I've already discussed how that works out. It's very possible that the cap goes up by the time that Necas is up, as well, as I think that Friedman was being intentionally conservative/worst-case scenario about the 3-year flat cap.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 11
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Necas is an easy pay. Nino and Trocheck expires right when Necas is up. The main obstacle to the roster is 2020-2021, but I've already discussed how that works out. It's very possible that the cap goes up by the time that Necas is up, as well, as I think that Friedman was being intentionally conservative/worst-case scenario about the 3-year flat cap.



i think you'll be depressed if you try to make a 2021-22 roster
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11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 12
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
the CBA sets forth that there is a flat cap for 2 years then it goes up 1 million


As of now, yes. If there's a big revenue spike post-vaccine, which is possible, that can radically change.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 16
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i think you'll be depressed if you try to make a 2021-22 roster


We have one of the better prospect pools in hockey, and we've slow-tracked many of them and will continue to until we absolutely need them. I don't think that our team will look all that depressed by 2021-22. Plenty of our prospects will be ready by that time to take the roles that Nino/Trocheck/McGinn/Martinook currently play on our club.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 18
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We have one of the better prospect pools in hockey, and we've slow-tracked many of them and will continue to until we absolutely need them. I don't think that our team will look all that depressed by 2021-22. Plenty of our prospects will be ready by that time to take the roles that Nino/Trocheck/McGinn/Martinook currently play on our club.


I think the most likely thing is that hamilton leaves, which solves any cap issue.
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11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 21
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
i think you'll be depressed if you try to make a 2021-22 roster


Not really. We pay seattle to take Skjei or Nino.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 23
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I think the most likely thing is that hamilton leaves, which solves any cap issue.


Honestly, Hamilton leaving is unlikely outside of a trade-and-sign before the next season starts. COVID actually tilts the negotiations in the Canes' favor in terms of AAV, and I think that an extension pact will be handed out shortly after the Expansion Draft. It wouldn't surprise me if it was only a 1-2 year extension in the $8M range, a sort of faux-bridge deal until the cap goes up again.
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 26
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What about
Bob @ 2 mil retained
Huberdeau
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Stralman

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Gardiner, Dzingel, mrazek, the pick, nino, bean and Suzuki?
11 juill. 2020 à 12 h 50
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What about
Bob @ 2 mil retained
Huberdeau
Sceviour
Stralman

For

Gardiner, Dzingel, mrazek, the pick, nino, bean and Suzuki?


What? Huberdeau? Why?
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11 juill. 2020 à 13 h 20
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What? Huberdeau? Why?


Y’all trying to cut costs. We need an incentive to take on Bob and Stralman. So we cut the value of Huberdeau to make it happen.
11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 8
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
Helm for Reimer 1-for-1? Hahahahahaha no way. Reimer had a very good rebound season this year, while Helm is a fringe player these days. You certainly need a good draft pick to balance out the deal.


Reimer isn't any better than a guy we can get in free agency so giving a 2nd isn't worth it for a back up.
11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 16
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Y’all trying to cut costs. We need an incentive to take on Bob and Stralman. So we cut the value of Huberdeau to make it happen.


Huberdeau is a 90 point player
11 juill. 2020 à 14 h 44
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Huberdeau is a 90 point player


Cool. Doesn’t mean your owners want to keep all that salary

Bob is still a 52.5 million expense. Stralman still carries 11 million.
11 juill. 2020 à 17 h 43
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Helm for Reimer 1-for-1? Hahahahahaha no way. Reimer had a very good rebound season this year, while Helm is a fringe player these days. You certainly need a good draft pick to balance out the deal.


Yzerman hangs up, and then calls back a couple of days later when you STILL haven't been able to make a deal where you gain an asset for shedding cap, because that pretty much will not happen this autumn.
 
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