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Marner To Carolina

Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2020
Publié: 10 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I've seen a lot of Leaf fans suggest that they should trade Marner for Pesce, and while I understand the purpose of it, I'm not sure it'll work. Carolina needs cap space to resign Svechnikov (likely 9-10 million), Necas (7-8 million) and Suzuki. Marner's cap hit is quite a large one as well, so I am going to try and make a team that fits all those guys while being cap compliant.
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
59 500 000 $
11 850 000 $
1900 000 $
74 000 000 $
21 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
810 500 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
11 500 000 $
33 850 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Jost, Tyson [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (COL)
COL
  1. Niederreiter, Nino
2.
CAR
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Marner, Mitchell (1 893 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Pesce, Brett
3.
CAR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (MTL)
MTL
  1. Skjei, Brady
4.
CAR
    Seattle Expansion Draft
    VGK
    1. Staal, Jordan
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
    5.
    CAR
    1. Roy, Matt [Droits de RFA]
    LAK
    1. Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2283 000 000 $77 723 582 $0 $1 150 000 $5 276 418 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Teräväinen, Teuvo
    5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Aho, Sebastian
    8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Marner, Mitchell
    9 010 000 $9 010 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
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    Svechnikov, Andrei
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Trocheck, Vincent
    4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Necas, Martin
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
    AD
    RFA - 1
    Jost, Tyson
    1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Exempté du ballottageSuzuki, Ryan
    863 333 $863 333 $
    C
    RFA - 3
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    Bokk, Dominik
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    Lindholm, Pär
    800 000 $800 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Geekie, Morgan
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Shore, Nick
    800 000 $800 000 $
    C
    UFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Slavin, Jaccob
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    Hamilton, Dougie
    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    Bernier, Jonathan
    3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Gardiner, Jake
    4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Roy, Matt
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    Smith, Mike
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Bean, Jake
    900 000 $900 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    Liljegren, Timothy
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Drury, Jack
    925 000 $925 000 $
    C
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
    Exempté du ballottageHonka, Anttoni
    925 000 $925 000 $
    DD
    RFA

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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 45
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    AnalyticsGeek
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    @canesfan3030 @Hockyluv21 @ecupirate07 @TWOminutes4surging @jslongo @Caniac2000 @nbass @Dan10900 @yeetmaster

    Obviously a highly unlikely scenario, but what'd you guys think of this team? Are they cup worthy?
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 46
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    Stop. Not enough.
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 46
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    @canesfan3030 @Hockyluv21 @ecupirate07 @TWOminutes4surging @jslongo @Caniac2000 @nbass @Dan10900 @yeetmaster

    Obviously a highly unlikely scenario, but what'd you guys think of this team? Are they cup worthy?


    That's highway robbery for Carolina LMAO. I'd do it walking away. Marner's fantastic: switch the 1st and maybe add Geekie to the return and it'll be more even.
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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 47
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    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll
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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 47
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    guy must have the cyber bullying hotline on speed dial by now
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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 48
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    i think so
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 52
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    Quoting: Hockyluv21
    That's highway robbery for Carolina LMAO. I'd do it walking away. Marner's fantastic: switch the 1st and maybe add Geekie to the return and it'll be more even.


    Thanks for letting me know your thoughts. I think Marner for Pesce 1 for 1 is fair, but I decided to add a bit more value from Toronto just to be safe.
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 53
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    i dont know if i am more offended by the trade, or the idea that Necas is getting 7-8 million
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 53
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    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll


    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 56
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    Would you rather be a troll or a guy who doesnt have the slightest clue whats hes talking about?
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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 56
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    I'm done with this drivel.

    Far too long coming but, that is why we have the ignore button I suppose.

    3, 2, 1..... and...... BLOCKED!!
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    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 57
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    Carolina people certainly do like to over value Pesce... but this is absolutely laughable... a 90+ point forward, a high end D prospect, and a 1st rd pick for Carolinas current 3rd pairing RD. Seriously?!?
    10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 59
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    Oooofffff

    For that package, I’d expect Hamilton Necas and a 2nd. AT LEAST
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 0
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    that is interesting, maybe a lot more than what pesce is worth
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 0
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    Nylander = Pesce

    So we’re gift wrapping our best prospect, AND a first? As well as Marner? No way man.
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 1
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    Quoting: Sean4417
    Carolina people certainly do like to over value Pesce... but this is absolutely laughable... a 90+ point forward, a high end D prospect, and a 1st rd pick for Carolinas current 3rd pairing RD. Seriously?!?


    3rd pairing? good lord he would be first pairing if not for slavin and hamilton
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 2
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    Maybe Hamilton+ gets that
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 5
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    Quoting: nbass
    3rd pairing? good lord he would be first pairing if not for slavin and hamilton


    Pesce has shown the ability to be a 2nd pairing RD... still not worth that haul from Toronto. FYI - a 3rd pairing dman getting less minutes and matchups vs 3rd and 4th lines that looks good in that role quite often gets hyped as 'should be a top pairing but isnt' because of the skewed appearance.
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 7
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    this scenario is as likely as Pesce and Wallmark for Kapanen and Brown 'rumor.'

    we all know this is a joke, right? We would have to score 8 goals a night with the goalie tandem.
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 7
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    But like come on, Pesce is good but not to that level of value. I'm a lot more of a Canes fan then I am of a Leafs fan. This is so incredibly lopsided
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    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 11
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    Quoting: Sean4417
    Pesce has shown the ability to be a 2nd pairing RD... still not worth that haul from Toronto. FYI - a 3rd pairing dman getting less minutes and matchups vs 3rd and 4th lines that looks good in that role quite often gets hyped as 'should be a top pairing but isnt' because of the skewed appearance.


    he has shown that he could be top pairing, but with hamilton and slavin being them you cant justify him going above slavin. he fits well where he was playing
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 20
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    Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
    Everyone has their own opinion regarding these trades, just because you disagree with my work doesn’t make me a troll. It is hard to satisfy both fan bases involved.


    maybe just trade Marner for who he is... a 94 point player at 22 and just getting better... not a subpar top 6 player

    wat i want to know is why do u rate him so low? your username suggests your a huge fan of him and fans usually overvalue their players (me as well)
    but u always seem to trade him for half his actual value
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    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 23
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    Quoting: nbass
    he has shown that he could be top pairing, but with hamilton and slavin being them you cant justify him going above slavin. he fits well where he was playing


    you can prop up Pesce all you want... still isnt worth a 90 pt winger, a high end prospect and a 1st rd pick. Pesce aint Lidstrom aftter all.
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    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 25
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    Stop. Not enough.


    Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
    I feel like I should just block this account at this point. Every post is just so troll


    Quoting: vr1995
    Would you rather be a troll or a guy who doesnt have the slightest clue whats hes talking about?


    Quoting: Mitch1_6
    Oooofffff

    For that package, I’d expect Hamilton Necas and a 2nd. AT LEAST


    People really cant grasp the concept that they allow 13 year old kids on this site.
    10 juill. 2020 à 14 h 33
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    Habs pass, they don't really need LD next year: Romanov, Mete and Chariot,
    Maybe Kulak and a 7th for Skjei... and then Mete plays 3rd pair RD
     
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