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Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 10 juill. 2020
Publié: 10 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Domi, Max [Droits de RFA]
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (BUF)
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BUF
  1. Kylington, Oliver [Droits de RFA]
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Hutton, Carter
  2. Johansson, Marcus
Détails additionnels:
Domi, Max [RFA Rights]
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BUF
VAN
  1. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
  2. Pilut, Lawrence [Droits de RFA]
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BUF
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
DET
  1. Johansson, Jonas [Droits de RFA]
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10 juill. 2020 à 12 h 55
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Leafs say no
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10 juill. 2020 à 12 h 57
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Quoting: B_Leaf
Leafs say no


agree. he is like a 3rd pair D at best, and the Leafs are not short of them
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10 juill. 2020 à 12 h 58
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Domi is not remotely as good as Monahan and the difference is definitely not Johansson
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10 juill. 2020 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
agree. he is like a 3rd pair D at best, and the Leafs are not short of them


thats a really inaccurate description of Miller
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10 juill. 2020 à 12 h 58
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I don't think that the Leafs need any more bottom pairing defensmen TBH. Regardless of their handedness.

This Leaf fan says no for that reason.
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10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 1
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Miller was a top 4 Dman on a Stanley cup contender, then Buffalo traded for him and stuck him on the 3rd pair or press box.

Makes no sense, but there it is.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: Trevorchef
I don't think that the Leafs need any more bottom pairing defensmen TBH. Regardless of their handedness.

This Leaf fan says no for that reason.


Hes not a bottom pairing defenseman hes a solid #4 locked up with term, he woild probably be a good fit. I do agree Leafs wont move Kapanen for hkm though.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 4
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Quoting: BurnEmUp
Miller was a top 4 Dman on a Stanley cup contender, then Buffalo traded for him and stuck him on the 3rd pair or press box.

Makes no sense, but there it is.


He was a healthy scratch on that Stanley cup contender and there it is.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 5
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A lot of these trade are no but I think this post as a whole isn't that bad, just keep practicing and keep up the good work yessir
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 9
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Quoting: Trickster
He was a healthy scratch on that Stanley cup contender and there it is.


I don't remember that at all.

He played 19-20 minutes per game for them for two seasons, including the playoffs and their run to the finals.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 9
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Domi is not remotely as good as Monahan and the difference is definitely not Johansson


Domi is better than Monahan.
https://public.tableau.com/shared/N24TB86FJ?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Plus Domi and Tkachuk on the same line
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 10
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Miller was a top 4 Dman on a Stanley cup contender, then Buffalo traded for him and stuck him on the 3rd pair or press box.

Makes no sense, but there it is.


Didnt know Dahlin was on the 3rd pair
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: B_Leaf
Leafs say no


Quoting: Gordon_Bombay
agree. he is like a 3rd pair D at best, and the Leafs are not short of them

Leaf fan proposed this

Quoting: Trevorchef
I don't think that the Leafs need any more bottom pairing defensmen TBH. Regardless of their handedness.

This Leaf fan says no for that reason.

Completely unreasonable take. But Toronto fans be Toronto fans
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 14
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Why would Buffalo trade the 8th overall pick for Domi??? If they were inclined to deal that pick itd be to package it to either move up a few slots or a package to bring in an elite winger for Eichel...
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 15
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Didnt know Dahlin was on the 3rd pair


Miller was a healthy scratch for almost 20 games, and played 17 minute a night on average. You seriously going to say he was top pairing? Just because he played with Dahlin sometimes doesn't make him top pair.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 17
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Quoting: Sean4417
Why would Buffalo trade the 8th overall pick for Domi??? If they were inclined to deal that pick itd be to package it to either move up a few slots or a package to bring in an elite winger for Eichel...


The Sabres dont need elite wingers they need a 2C. The last ting th sabres need is an elite winger. Oloffson was on pace for 30+goals 70+pts and Reinhart was on pace for similar numbers.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 22
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The Sabres dont need elite wingers they need a 2C. The last ting th sabres need is an elite winger. Oloffson was on pace for 30+goals 70+pts and Reinhart was on pace for similar numbers.


point being they can get a lot better than Domi in a package including that 8th overall pick. I know Adams is new but isnt that dim that hed consider Domi for that pick... in this deep draft the Sabres would at least get an NHL ready winger on an ELC instead of paying a 2nd/ 3rd liner 6 bills
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Leaf fan proposed this


Completely unreasonable take. But Toronto fans be Toronto fans


He played 1 82 game season. His second highest was 65 games. Other than in Vegas, he played 15 minutes per game in Boston and 17 in Buffalo. In Vegas he had around 19 minutes (which is more like 2nd pair minutes) But the 15-17 minute range suggest more of a 3rd pairing role than 2nd.
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10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 23
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Miller was a healthy scratch for almost 20 games, and played 17 minute a night on average. You seriously going to say he was top pairing? Just because he played with Dahlin sometimes doesn't make him top pair.


You completely take it out of context to spin it into your narrative. He was getting sat for Bogosian. Not a single person thinks Bogosian is a better player. They were trying to dump Bogosian. Hes not a 7th dman an especially not on Toronto. Not only that Ruotsalainen puts the value over the top.
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 25
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point being they can get a lot better than Domi in a package including that 8th overall pick. I know Adams is new but isnt that dim that hed consider Domi for that pick... in this deep draft the Sabres would at least get an NHL ready winger on an ELC instead of paying a 2nd/ 3rd liner 6 bills


Domi isnt that bad and I would take him over Holtz anyway. Having a good winger isnt going to matter if you dont have a center as Buffalo found out with Skinner this year
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 29
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He played 1 82 game season. His second highest was 65 games. Other than in Vegas, he played 15 minutes per game in Boston and 17 in Buffalo. In Vegas he had around 19 minutes (which is more like 2nd pair minutes) But the 15-17 minute range suggest more of a 3rd pairing role than 2nd.


Kapanen is also a 3rd liner who saw his ice time drop from 17+ to 15+ minutes this year. They were playing Kerfoot in the top 6 over him. This deal is fair
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 32
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Domi is better than Monahan.
https://public.tableau.com/shared/N24TB86FJ?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Plus Domi and Tkachuk on the same line


Ok so who plays with Gaudreau then if Domi plays with Tkachuk? I am all for Calgary acquiriing Domi but not at the cost of moving their 1C. Domi is a 2C by all metrics, Monahan may not be an elite 1C but he's serviceable.

That post is pretty lopsided, it is well known that this is a career worst year for Monahan and Domi is having another average to good season, so at the least it should take the last 3 years into account. here is the 2 players GAR and WAR comparisons over the last 3 seasons
https://imgur.com/a/KQ2k9Ph
As you can see Monahan was the better player in terms of game impact in both the 17/18 and 18/19 seasons, yet had a career worst year this in 19/20 as stated above and obviously was barely a positive impact player
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 36
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Domi isnt that bad and I would take him over Holtz anyway. Having a good winger isnt going to matter if you dont have a center as Buffalo found out with Skinner this year


Why would you take Holt over Lundell if you value that center role so much? Both have similar ceilings and Lundell in NHL ready now with a great 2-way game
10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 37
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Domi is better than Monahan?

...because some chart says so?

Now I've heard it all.
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10 juill. 2020 à 13 h 48
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Quoting: Shibbal18
Domi is better than Monahan.
https://public.tableau.com/shared/N24TB86FJ?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Plus Domi and Tkachuk on the same line


You can keep Domi then if you truly believe that.
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