Ottawa rejects. We aren't looking to move Tierney for that.

I'd also go with Holtz over Lundell. Lundell is a good defensive centre that will be able to play 3C in the NHL right away but doesn't have a very high ceiling. Holtz has the best shot in the draft but isn't very good defensively.

Idk how I feel about Middlestat

Of course you are sorry dude, but you constantly write some kind of nonsense on this site. Ottawa will easily take it and run away, in addition to the top 4 RD they get two not bad prospects, any adequate Ottawa fan would take this deal. But you even write nonsense about the draft, saying that Lundell will be only 3C, of course he could be, but he has a tall IQ, he already plays a decent two-sided game and has a good shot. I will easily take Lundell in front of Holtz. Holtz bad defenseively and poor IQ.

Overpayment for Tierney

Fair. I like Montour but don’t love him. I always tend to overpay on here because most people underpay for their respective teams. I just want a 3C that’s above average that can flip flop with our 2C depending on who’s hot. Plan for next year would be to have Cozens either play 3RW For Johansson preferably or one of those center spots as to not rush him.

Edit: I also try to evaluate my teams as a whole as opposed to any 1 single deal.

Ha. NO. Ottawa can sign Tierney to a one year deal, keep him until trade deadline and get a better offer for him then. Those are B prospects and Montour's a UFA in 2021, so buying those years will cost far more than he is worth. Tierney on the other hand would likely sign a 4x$4M deal.

Montour is an RFA now not an expiring contract at any time right now.

Tierney is one of the biggest beneficiaries of getting overrated by his own fans, and somehow that translated to being overrated by everyone else on here, he simply is not that good

Also Lundell would be a really good pick at 8 and he is better than Holtz

I don’t see how Tierney costs more than Montour, they are approximately equal, even some Ottawa fans at the HF offered Tierney+ for Montour. I would do a Montour deal for Tierney one on one, but would not add anything.

I probably would not have acquired Tierney if you had already acquired Henrique, and would have given the role of 3C to Cozens, if we had seen that he could not cope with the role of the center, then Johansson or Kahun could have taken this role.

I understand that. I just wanted to give him an extra year to be safe if I could.

Anaheim might trade Henrique or Rakell in the off-season but not both. Trading two of our top 6 when we are trying to integrate youngsters would guarantee another bottom-fifth finish in 2021.

Extra year in WHL? I think we should look at him in the first nine games and decide what to do with him. Cozens is not like Mittelstadt, he already looks better physically and an extra year in juniors can also stall his development.

Yes, Montour is an RFA with arbitration rights. So if he elects to go to arbitration gets a ONE YEAR deal... which ends with him as a UFA (summer of 2021).
This is why I am saying Montour's next contract will cost more than Tierney's next contract, because buying UFA years always costs more.
IMO, Tierney is more valuable to a team. As a 3rd line pivot he'd be exceptional, and he can adequately move up to your 2nd line whenever needed.
Statistically Second-Line NHL Centers. All situations range: 39 points to 55 points. Even strength range: 31 points to 39 points. TIERNEY FITS BOTH.
He's also 51.2% in face-offs and is a damn fine penalty killer with 4 shorties this season.
Ottawa has a lot of RHD coming soon - Bernard Docker, Lassi Thomson, Artem Zub, and they likely have Drysdale on the board at 5th OA if they chose. Montour is okay, but I'm pretty comfortable waiting to see what comes of the RHD in the system unless we have a shot at a legit 1st pairing guy - which Montour is not.

Just proves I'm not the only Ottawa fan who says no to this deal. You just overvalue all your players 10x.

Also I said Lundell jumps in as a 3C for next season. Don't change what I say just so you can make a point... But I guess that's all you can do or else you wouldn't have anything to say.



If YOU would do a 1 for 1 deal that just shows how skewed the deal is towards Buffalo.



The reason why they want to trade Montour is because he is the worst of their 4 RHD. Yet they act like he's some kind of high tier top 4 D man...

I wouldn’t say he’s the worst. He Miller and Risto are all fairly close we just have too many of them.

I'd take Miller or Risto over Montour.

Montour will probably want 4.5M over 3 or 4 years.

I'd do Ristolainen + Buffalo's 2nd for Tierney + Winnipeg's 3rd + Reilly

Personally I think this is a better deal for buffalo tbh.

You're just an ignorant homer who harbored a grudge against Buffalo and constantly write or create silly threads. I never overestimate players ten times. I am not saying that Montour should return to Laine or Tkachuk, it would be a revaluation ten times. Tierney is just an average player, like Montour, so the value here is fair, so stop being so dumb.

Wow. Do most people just end up blocking you?

Honestly, it makes no difference to me, but this guy pissed me off. He constantly creates some silly threads about Buffalo and does strange bidding, so I finally decided to answer him in this form, because he apparently does not understand ordinary words.

Ignorant homer... really... someone's gotta take a look in the mirror.

Tierney is not an average player. He is a very good 3C and decent 2C. Montour is a bottom 6 D man with many defensive deficits.



We can make that the deal then. I'm tired of seeing Montour for Tierney.

Yes, you are an ignorant homer who cannot properly assess players or is doing this on purpose for some personal reason. Tierney 3C are in a good team, and maybe poor 2C in a bad team. Montour is the top 4 D in many teams he will be good #4, in bad teams he will be #2 - #3. In what world is Montour 6D? it's just funny.