your trade involves two forwards that the leafs most certainly do not need, a late 1st and an ok 3rd defender with one year till UFA. Its terrible and bad and you arnt fooling anyone

Toronto isn't retaining on Marner for 5 years. We aren't in a rebuild here.

You know the other thing I just noticed... where are you getting the extension money for Jones, Werenski, Nuttivaara, Merzlinkins/Korpisalo, Jenner, Foudy, and Bremstrom?

Adding Marner and Danault are useless if two Jones, Werenski, Merzlinkins/Korpisalo walk....

Because he's not breaking the rules by posting this. You are, by posting non constructive comments. That is why. Contributing to the community doesn't mean you can comment anything you want without consequences just like posters can't post any armchair GM they want without consequences either. Once again, Marner for a 7th is trolling. This is not that. If you feel the urge to comment, at least comment why its bad in a respectful manner.

You contribute to the community by posting constructive comments, not derogatory ones. If you think he posts bad content either block him or post something constructive. Or don't post. Whatever floats your boat but it has to be within the rules.

sure thing hoss, you keep saying this isnt trolling but literally everyone else knows it is. Like seriously, go read the responses he gets to these. Everyone on the site except you is in on the scam, but whatever. You 're gonna have to cut out about half the comments on the site if you want 'constructive' comments only. Cant wait to see how that inst enforced.

you just cant stop arguing can you? you complain about his post or you call him a troll? just block him then. at this point you are just arguing to argue. you both clearly have a different opinions. seems like no matter how hard you try its not changing his mind or his opinion so why bother? Literally nobody cares about you calling him out. nobody sees you as the superhero that comes to rescue mitch marner from terrible trade situations. i agree with you that Marners value is much much more than this but why do you care so much? if hes actually a troll you are feeding him. if hes not a troll he clearly doesn't have the wherewithal to learn from your conversations to properly evaluate mitch marner. i actually enjoy you opinions on most things it just sucks to see you getting this upset for no reason... say positive it normally makes things better, right?

I'm not speaking for EVERY AGM he's done. Simply this one. There have been others I've deleted before...... precisely because of the exaggeration regarding Marner and what was in return wasn't even remotely close to this above.

As for enforcing it, we need people to report things so we can find all these non constructive posts. That's a start. There is no way to catch every single non constructive post on a forum with over 20000 comments a day but the ones we do get to, we will take action on but users blocking other users content they don't like, is an easy start for everyone to do.

Or maybe i enjoy calling him out and thats as simple as it is? If you dont like it you can just block me and not have to hear about it, its such a shame to see you getting so angry and i doubt anyone thinks youre a hero

you're currently ARGUING with a mod about why you should be allowed to INSULT and FIGHT with another guy? just seems like a relentless effort to fight with people.... but maybe ill take you up on that block seems like you don't have the wherewithal to understand when you are wrong

Dont kink shame me

Nope on the Marner trade - if you need an explanation then your a complete homer

I would say that from the Jackets perspective, they would take that all day. But I think Foudy has to be added and then Toronto thinks about it.

Not saying it'd be a done deal, but the leafs are better off keeping him if a deal for a defenceman of that calibre is not available

Dubas would personally phone you and tell you that Marner will never be traded by the Leafs as this proposal must be a joke right.

Good point. I thought about this issue as well. Currently, you have 5 million dollars in cap space. Next season, Jenner comes off the books & could probably trade Nyqvist as well. That frees up another 9 million. That should be enough to extend Werenski & Jones (7-8 Million range) & the Korpisalo (4-5M) & Merzlikins (5-6).

I feel Peeke will be ready for a top 4 role by 2022-23, so you can get Nutivaara walk & give Peeke maybe 2 Million.

Also, Glendening & Grant coming off the books clears 3.5 Million, plus the cap probably goes up 2-3 Million. Overall it might be difficult to add depth but you should be able to keep the core guys.

The Leafs could use a forward since Marner’s gone, Anderson would be a good fit. Texier’s presence could make someone like Johnsson expendable, he has loads of talent. Savard would probably be easy for TOR to bring back, he costs 5 Million maximum.

utter nonsense

I think the issue is, you’re overconfident about your team. You don’t think they need to make any major changes, but the truth is, they haven’t gotten anywhere being built the way they are. There are many educated analysts like Jeff Veillette, Ian Tulloch & Rachel Dorrie who believe that change is necessary, and that starts with Marner.

i know the issue is that you have zero idea what the team needs and zero idea of marners value and that you love the negative attention these terrible trade proposals give you and that the half baked reasoning is all secondary to your poor ideas of how to build a roster.
And Ian, Jeff and Rachel would all laugh at you if you suggested that any of these trades were good value or made the team better.

How to put this nicely. You’re wrong.... Jones and Werenski will probably get 9+ long term and Columbus only keeps one of Korpisalo or Merzlinkins. We also have other players to worry about like Foudy, Bremstrom, Nuttivaara and Peeke in there too. It’ll be super super tight, most likely too tight.

Jones & Werenski are both legit top pair defenders, but I cannot see them getting 9 million. Based on JFresh’s player evaluator model, both players’ market values falls in the 4-5-5.5 million dollar range in a long term deal currently. Obviously they should get more, but not 9. 8 maximum for me. Jones is not on the level of the top RDs such as Hamilton, Pietrangelo, Ellis, Prime Karlsson or Prime Doughty. Werenski isn’t on the level Hedman, Theodore or Josi. Both of them can reach that level over time, but as of right now, that is not the case, so I have no interest in discussing that they should get at least 9.

Werenski or don't call tbh

Yes, use the model.... it’s always accurate. Both will get around 9x8 contracts. Not quite the level of Doughty, Karlsson and them, but also they haven’t hit their primes yet. Even Josi was 9+ and the model had him at 6. You want to disagree that’s fine, just plan on 10 being the max for either of them. JFeresh also does all his models strictly on advanced stats so and that’s not the only way to judge a player.

Well that’s your opinion man. Maybe I should’ve sent Atkinson to Vegas & trade Wennberg & Nyqvist separately to clear cap enough room to extend Werenski & Jones to 10 million dollars. The models measure how many scoring chances each player generates & prevents. I agree there are other factors than that to measure a player’s value, but personally I do not feel ready to agree on the fact that both defenders are worth 9+ Million.

I would agree that neither are ready for that yet, but 3 years from now is a long time. And with both of them being top 10 picks it seems plausible to assume that they could reach that when their contracts are expiring. Tbh it really doesn’t matter as this post is about Marner and I don’t think Columbus should really consider Marner as a possibility because Toronto would want more and he isn’t exactly a perfect fit. We need a center, not necessarily more wings.