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Créé par: Sicarius
Équipe: 2020-21 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2020
Publié: 7 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
78 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
ANA
  1. Steen, Alexander
Détails additionnels:
STEEN RETIRES
2.
STL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NYI)
3.
STL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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2022
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $68 058 848 $306 349 $1 712 500 $13 441 152 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
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UFA - 3
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5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 8
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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758 333 $758 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance87 500 $$88K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 275 000 $3 275 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 7
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 200 000 $$1M)
DG
RFA - 2
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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8 juill. 2020 à 0 h 17
#26
Terry_AkiSauce
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Quoting: Sicarius
Ok. I can think of teams who would want to OS Sergachev. It doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.


Itll happen if the team doesn't offer fair compensation and the players can find much better contracts elsewhere
8 juill. 2020 à 0 h 29
#27
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Quoting: pharrow
let me be clear on this for you.
The AHL allows the greatest level of player development any player can get outside the NHL. Mainly because it's the NHL's people doing those things.
Not the CHL, not a euro league, not the NCAA. The NHL.

It should not take a player 3 years to develop there, even at 18.
They have good facilities to gain strength, strength coaches, dietary help......the works.
Which is why so many teams send their young players there before entering in the NHL. But the reality is, most of those players may go there for 6 months, to a year before entering into the NHL. Not 3 years.
And spare me an age thing because it's not an age issue. 3 years of pro level coaching. And you haven't done anything with him. You let him sit.
It's not even a mark on the player at this point. It's the team itself killing their value.


Maybe I can shed some light on Kostin for you. I’m fully aware of what the AHL is compared to vs junior leagues or college or Euro Leabo. The fact is it’s rare that an 18 year old has to play in the A. Kostin spoke no English at 18. Once his first year started the Blues lost control over their AHL team to Vegas. Vegas doesn’t care about Kostin’s development and rightfully so therefore his entire season was a very bad growth year.

He has improved each of the last two years and the only reasons he didn’t stick on the NHL roster this year is because the Blues have insane depth at forward and they could get by with keeping him in the A.

Playing in the A isn’t only about amassing stats. If you haven’t seen Kostin play at both levels and are only looking at a stat sheet I can understand how you form an opinion.

I think Kostin will be a top 6 power forward and personally I wouldn’t take less than a mid range 1st for him. This is a make believe trade. I welcome other opinions but it helps credibility more if you’re not just pulling stats alone.
8 juill. 2020 à 0 h 48
#28
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Quoting: Sicarius
Maybe I can shed some light on Kostin for you. I’m fully aware of what the AHL is compared to vs junior leagues or college or Euro Leabo. The fact is it’s rare that an 18 year old has to play in the A. Kostin spoke no English at 18. Once his first year started the Blues lost control over their AHL team to Vegas. Vegas doesn’t care about Kostin’s development and rightfully so therefore his entire season was a very bad growth year.

He has improved each of the last two years and the only reasons he didn’t stick on the NHL roster this year is because the Blues have insane depth at forward and they could get by with keeping him in the A.

Playing in the A isn’t only about amassing stats. If you haven’t seen Kostin play at both levels and are only looking at a stat sheet I can understand how you form an opinion.

I think Kostin will be a top 6 power forward and personally I wouldn’t take less than a mid range 1st for him. This is a make believe trade. I welcome other opinions but it helps credibility more if you’re not just pulling stats alone.


depth was not the issue or the problem.
Nor was a language barrier.
Nor is being 18 in the AHL rare. Lots of players come into the AHL young. Kapanen in TOR did it, by 21 he was full time on TOR mid way through the season.
Lot of players skip the AHL all the time and come into the NHL at 19 and 20.
Suzuki this year in MTL for example.

So it's not an age issue. It's not a blocked path issue. It's not a whatever issue you want to try to make it. He's had 3 years in the AHL. It's not about stats. It's about STL not having done anything with him and then wanting to claim he's still worth a 1st. It doesn't work that way. Players do lose value if you don't DO anything with them.
Much like Kyrou who STL fans built up to be the next Jesus walking on water. But now he looks like a run of the mill 3rd liner worth about a mid round pick.
8 juill. 2020 à 2 h 22
#29
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Quoting: Sicarius
The Blues won’t need another LD and they definitely won’t want salary coming back.


Edmonton has its own cap concerns, so they can't bring in contracts without moving out contracts as well. They also don't have a lot of strength that correlates well to any needs St. Louis may have. If not Russell, the only other players they can offer are probably Chiasson, Benning, and Khaira. I don't think there's a deal to be made involving Allen and any of those current Oilers.
8 juill. 2020 à 6 h 39
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No. Still.
8 juill. 2020 à 12 h 57
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I would do that trade if I was Ottawa only to buy out bozak but also wouldn’t give you a first. Maybe a top second then a third combined
 
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