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Créé par: M_Swann
Équipe: 2020-21 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2020
Publié: 7 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
3825 000 $
3875 000 $
3875 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
2750 000 $
2700 000 $
43 750 000 $
2700 000 $
1700 000 $
23 500 000 $
1700 000 $
2750 000 $
1700 000 $
21 500 000 $
43 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Byfield, Quinton
3925 000 $
Drysdale, Jamie
3925 000 $
Jarvis, Seth
3925 000 $
Poirier, Jeremie
3875 000 $
Cuylle, Will
3875 000 $
Torgersson, Daniel
3875 000 $
Nybeck, Zion
3875 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Gourde, Yanni
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (PHI)
TBL
  1. Brown, Logan
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
2.
STL
  1. Lajoie, Maxime
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (STL)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de SJS
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Logo de CBJ
Logo de DAL
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Logo de OTT
Logo de WPG
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Logo de OTT
Logo de TBL
2021
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de CBJ
Logo de SJS
Logo de OTT
Logo de COL
Logo de EDM
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
2022
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Logo de OTT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $68 584 999 $0 $4 802 500 $12 915 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
5 166 666 $5 166 666 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
747 500 $747 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1

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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 31
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Gotta get more for Steens cap dump

Norris and Formenton both start in the AHL, Balcers won't be there to be a healthy scratch

No point in trading Logan Brown for a 28 year old thats only played 3 full NHL seasons, Ottawa doesn't need him
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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 32
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If I'm Tampa, I take this and run. Shedding Gourde's contract only costs me a 3rd, AND I get Logan Brown back? Done and done.

Similar sentiment for the St Louis trade. I get to shed almost $10 mil off of my payroll, and I get Lajoie coming back? Yeeehaw.
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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: Lenny7
If I'm Tampa, I take this and run. Shedding Gourde's contract only costs me a 3rd, AND I get Logan Brown back? Done and done.

Similar sentiment for the St Louis trade. I get to shed almost $10 mil off of my payroll, and I get Lajoie coming back? Yeeehaw.


Ottawas getting ripped off in both trades
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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 54
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Ottawas getting ripped off in both trades


1000%

The idea of taking contracts like Steen, Allen and Gourde makes complete sense, but none of those guys are worth giving up ANY assets for, aside from maybe Allen, who put up much better numbers this year. Definitely not worth giving up Lajoie though.

Edit: With the cap most likely staying flat, there's going to be a lot more mid-tiered players on bigger contracts, who may not necessarily be "Dumps" per se, but will need to be moved in the off season, most likely at a discounted rate. The Sens have the ability to steal a few of those guys. That's where your Lajoie's and Brown's come in. Move them for good players. Just not sure 'ol Eugene will open the wallet.
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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 58
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Quoting: Lenny7
1000%

The idea of taking contracts like Steen, Allen and Gourde makes complete sense, but none of those guys are worth giving up ANY assets for, aside from maybe Allen, who put up much better numbers this year. Definitely not worth giving up Lajoie though.

Edit: With the cap most likely staying flat, there's going to be a lot more mid-tiered players on bigger contracts, who may not necessarily be "Dumps" per se, but will need to be moved in the off season, most likely at a discounted rate. The Sens have the ability to steal a few of those guys. That's where your Lajoie's and Brown's come in. Move them for good players. Just not sure 'ol Eugene will open the wallet.


Ya taking those contracts would be good if they came with draft capital not if we have to give up assets
Maybe guys like Boeser or someone like that but no point in trading for mid tier guys if they aren't going to help the future
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7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 59
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Ya taking those contracts would be good if they came with draft capital not if we have to give up assets


For sure. Plus, you've got a boatload of picks already...package something up and go after some guns.
7 juill. 2020 à 13 h 44
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That L.Brown trade made me throw up in my mouth.
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7 juill. 2020 à 13 h 50
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Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played in the NHL for two seasons putting up 95 points in 126 games, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.
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7 juill. 2020 à 14 h 6
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Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played in the NHL for two seasons putting up 95 points in 126 games, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.


Finally someone understands Logan Browns potential
8 juill. 2020 à 4 h 43
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Quoting: PLDGEY
That L.Brown trade made me throw up in my mouth.


Ok

Quoting: Claebom
Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played in the NHL for two seasons putting up 95 points in 126 games, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.


Well, I know who Logan Brown is but from what I understood, Ottawa is ready to move on from him. But if they still think he has potential, great!
8 juill. 2020 à 4 h 43
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Quoting: PLDGEY
That L.Brown trade made me throw up in my mouth.


Ok

Quoting: Claebom
Hey, so with this I figure you don't know have a clue who Logan Brown is so I just wanna share something pretty cool.

Since 2010, the only 21 year old players with better season paces in the AHL than Brown are: Frank Vatrano (2015-2016; 1.528 PPG), Taylor Hall (2012-2013; 1.308 PPG), Drake Batherson (2019-2020; 1.227 PPG), Andrew Mangiapane (2017-2018; 1.179) and Devin Shore (2015-2016; 1.130 PPG). Brown's got 1.12 PPG. Before these seasons, Hall had played in the NHL for two seasons putting up 95 points in 126 games, and both Vatrano and Shore came from college. Vatrano also played on a stupidly stacked Providence team (with Seth Griffith who was a star that year). Mangiapane in his previous year had 0.62 PPG and is now 24 and just put up a near 40 point pace in the NHL as a 6th rounder. Batherson in his previous year had 1.05 PPG and throughout his collective short stints in the NHL thus far has put up 0.44 PPG on really bad Sens teams. Brown put up 0.75 PPG in his first AHL season, and this year in the NHL put up 0.35 PPG on the freaking Senators. Of those guys in front of him, one was pretty consistently a 30-40 point guy before falling off (Shore), another is about a 40 point guy (Vatrano), one just became a 40 point guy (Mangiapane), and another is one of the highest scoring LWers in the NHL (Hall). Plus Batherson, who's widely considered to be one of the best players in the AHL right now, and one of the top prospects in the league (Wheeler just ranked him #18).

The point being that Brown has shown more than absolutely everybody in front of him except for Hall (and Batherson, but they're the same age so we'll see), and they all became about 40 point players in the NHL. He's been better than all of those guys, and comes from being an 11th OA. This is a guy who's been said to have a ceiling as a 1C, who's amongst the highest in all time AHL point paces before the age of 22. And in your trade, you've shipped him off to one of the best teams in the league for somebody who's (1) gotten progressively worse over the past three years, (2) has 5 years left at $5.2M despite currently being worth probably just above half of that, and (3) is 6 years older.

So nah.


Well, I know who Logan Brown is but from what I understood, Ottawa is ready to move on from him. But if they still think he has potential, great!
8 juill. 2020 à 4 h 44
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