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3 way trade between COL TOR ARI

Créé par: Richard88
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 7 juill. 2020
Publié: 7 juill. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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How about this 3 way trade?

TOR out: Nylander
TOR in: Manson + Rakell @$1.8m

ANA out: Manson + Rakell ($1.8m retained)
ANA in: Timmins, Kaut, 1st, Beaucage

COL out: Timmins, Kaut, 1st, Beaucage
COL in: Nylander

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Anaheim generally love the idea of Timmins + 1st for Rakell. Avs probably don't do that though as it probably favours Anaheim a bit. Kaut + Beaucage probably comes close to Manson, but favours Colorado slightly. Together the two parts balance for a fair trade.

Toronto would get a defensive RHD that they need and who TML fans have been making proposals about for 2 years, AND a direct replacement for Nylander with a really cheap cap hit.

Colorado gets a young and cost-controlled 1st line winger who is signed through his prime, for futures.

Maybe another pick or two need to be added for balance but as a basis I think this could work well for all 3 teams.

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NOTE: The Colorado version of this trade is in this AGM: https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/339765
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3925 000 $
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  1. Beaucage, Alex [Liste de réserve]
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
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  1. Manson, Josh
  2. Rakell, Rickard (1 850 000 $ retained)
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  1. Beaucage, Alex
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Timmins, Conor
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (COL)
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7 juill. 2020 à 7 h 31
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I can't see the Leafs doing this without more term on each of the players coming back. Overall, I think it's an interesting deal, but if I am the Leafs I have to think twice about it.
7 juill. 2020 à 7 h 36
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I can't see the Leafs doing this without more term on each of the players coming back. Overall, I think it's an interesting deal, but if I am the Leafs I have to think twice about it.


I think the trade is pretty well balanced, but for the sake of discussion is there a way of reducing the term issue from Toronto's perspective? Would it appease them if they got an additional pick or prospect?
7 juill. 2020 à 7 h 46
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I think the trade is pretty well balanced, but for the sake of discussion is there a way of reducing the term issue from Toronto's perspective? Would it appease them if they got an additional pick or prospect?


Leafs wanted Manson this year, there was no question about it, but it wasn't for Nylander, who's contract and term now looks great. You are also adding an additional question mark in Rakell. Not that he's a good player, but how he fits into a forward group that will likely include Nicholas Robertson in 2020-21. If there was a way to get Graves from COL and Manson from ANA, leaving out any forwards, I think the Leafs would make that deal no question, Graves comes with a lot of control. It shouldn't matter that he's left-handed when he can handle big minutes and plays a rougher more defensive game like really only Muzzin offers this group. Plus seeing Graves and Manson on a potential line would be ridiculous as far as shut down goes. I also think as a bottom-6 guy that plays defensive-minded minutes, the Leafs would also be interested in Carter Rowney. So let's try to re-work this deal a little. I am sure all Colorado fans will be up in arms about this, but oh well :P

TOR out: Nylander, Dermott, Bracco
TOR in: Manson, Graves, Rowney

ANA out: Manson, Rowney
ANA in: Timmins, Kaut, Dermott, Bracco

COL out: Graves, Timmins, Kaut
COL in: Nylander
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7 juill. 2020 à 10 h 28
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Minimum salaries have increased to 750K. You'll need to adjust that.

Some interesting ideas here.
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Same issue as before. The Leafs give up easily the best player in the deal, and that player has 2 extra years of term over the guys they get back. That wouldn't be quite as much of an issue if Manson and Rakell weren't going to be in or entering their 30's when they expire, but they are. Then there's the problem of the expansion draft - acquiring two players that require protection at different positions puts them in a really tough spot. Interesting idea, but don't see it benefiting the Leafs enough to trade Nylander.

Edit: Also where is Dermott?
7 juill. 2020 à 11 h 39
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Quoting: Trevorchef
Minimum salaries have increased to 750K. You'll need to adjust that.

Some interesting ideas here.


Frank Seravalli is reporting that they tweaked the league min salary to $700k for '20-21 despite reports showing $750k for the next 4 years. I haven't seen anything else official to confirm that.
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Same issue as before. The Leafs give up easily the best player in the deal, and that player has 2 extra years of term over the guys they get back. That wouldn't be quite as much of an issue if Manson and Rakell weren't going to be in or entering their 30's when they expire, but they are. Then there's the problem of the expansion draft - acquiring two players that require protection at different positions puts them in a really tough spot. Interesting idea, but don't see it benefiting the Leafs enough to trade Nylander.

Edit: Also where is Dermott?

Dermott would get traded for futures.
7 juill. 2020 à 12 h 29
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Dermott would get traded for futures.


Ah. That just sours me a bit further on this deal. Would much rather take the current impact of Nylander + Dermott over Rakell + Manson.
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Ah. That just sours me a bit further on this deal. Would much rather take the current impact of Nylander + Dermott over Rakell + Manson.


You aren't factoring in the return on Dermott in that comparison....
7 juill. 2020 à 13 h 11
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You aren't factoring in the return on Dermott in that comparison....


I am. 'Current impact'.

Regardless, the other issues with the trade from the Leafs perspective are still there.
 
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