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Would you give up the 8th overall pick

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Date de création initiale: jui 7, 2020
Publié: 7 jui 2020 à 1 h 24
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
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RFAANSCAP HIT
Kahun, Dominik22 250 000 $
Olofsson, Victor33 000 000 $
Reinhart, Sam66 000 000 $
Ullmark, Linus22 500 000 $
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Holtby, Braden16 500 000 $
Edmundson, Joel23 500 000 $
Czarnik, Austin1975 000 $
Salomäki, Miikka1900 000 $
Larsson, Johan11 250 000 $
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BUF
  1. Turris, Kyle
NSH
  1. Skinner, Jeff
  2. Mittelstadt, Casey [Droits de RFA]
BUF
  1. Nylander, William
TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage [Droits de RFA]
  2. Montour, Brandon [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 1e round pick (BUF)
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  • Cody Hodgson: 791 667 $
  • Christian Ehrhoff: 0 $
  • Carter Hutton: 916 667 $
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BUF
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Olofsson, Victor
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
BUF
Eichel, Jack
10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
BUF
Reinhart, Sam
6 000 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Kahun, Dominik
2 250 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
894 167 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
BUF
Johansson, Marcus
4 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
NSH
Turris, Kyle
6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
Czarnik, Austin
975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Salomäki, Miikka
900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
NSH
Turris, Kyle
1 650 000 $
C
UFA - 2
BUF
Okposo, Kyle
6 000 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Larsson, Johan
1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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BUF
Dahlin, Rasmus
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Holtby, Braden
6 500 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
BUF
Jokiharju, Henri
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BUF
McCabe, Jake
2 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BUF
Miller, Colin
3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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7 jui 2020 à 1 h 25
#1
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Not for Nylander they shouldn't
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7 jui 2020 à 1 h 32
#2
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There is potential here as Leafs could grab Rossi who is a player the leafs need.
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 34
#3
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Quoting: aadoyle
There is potential here as Leafs could grab Rossi who is a player the leafs need.

Or Askarov to replace Andersen
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 35
#4
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Modifié 7 jui 2020 à 1 h 45
Quoting: KingLundqvist30
Or Askarov to replace Andersen


True, actually if u think about it Dubas can trade down to 9th or 10th spot get a 2nd or something in exchange for doing so than draft Askarov. It worked out well when he drafted sandin as he moved 5 spots and got a 3rd. With the pick being much higher he can grab a 2nd easily giving us pick depth that can be endless.

So lets say we decide to go for Braden Schneider at 11 (we trade Minnesota the 8th overall for their 11th and a 2020 2nd)
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 38
#5
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The only player I would trade 8th overall for is a real center.
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7 jui 2020 à 1 h 42
#6
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Quoting: Sabres923
The only player I would trade 8th overall for is a real center.


Nylander can play center, there was just no need for him to do it cause we had center depth for days.
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 43
#7
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That Nashville trade is easily the worst I’ve ever seen suggested on here

Sorry to be so harsh,
but we’re easily giving up the 2 best pieces
And Turris blows
It’s just really bad
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 44
#8
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Quoting: aadoyle
Nylander can play center, there was just no need for him to do it cause we had center depth for days.


Didn’t he play center In 18-19?
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 47
#9
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Quoting: Sabres923
Didn’t he play center In 18-19?


He filled in at times and I believe when Kadri got suspended during the playoffs he played center as the replacement.

In general he could be great as a center, with some good wings he could surprise some people.
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7 jui 2020 à 1 h 51
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Quoting: aadoyle
He filled in at times and I believe when Kadri got suspended during the playoffs he played center as the replacement.

In general he could be great as a center, with some good wings he could surprise some people.


So say Buffalo puts him as the 2c with Skinner and Kahun he would be fine?
7 jui 2020 à 1 h 58
#11
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Quoting: Sabres923
So say Buffalo puts him as the 2c with Skinner and Kahun he would be fine?


Yes, if u look at his FOW% and other stats he has the qualities to be a solid offensive 2c for the sabers. Think of a budget draisaitl if you know what I mean as both can play wing and center well but are not defensively responsible
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7 jui 2020 à 2 h 06
#12
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Quoting: aadoyle
Yes, if u look at his FOW% and other stats he has the qualities to be a solid offensive 2c for the sabers. Think of a budget draisaitl if you know what I mean as both can play wing and center well but are not defensively responsible


The idea is warming up to me. I’m not sure how other Leaf fans feel.
7 jui 2020 à 2 h 08
#13
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Quoting: aadoyle
There is potential here as Leafs could grab Rossi who is a player the leafs need.


Leafs would be insane to do this trade as they are just entering their window of winning now. @MitchMarnerElite can we have your extremely valuable comments on this trade.
7 jui 2020 à 3 h 06
#14
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Quoting: Sabres923
So say Buffalo puts him as the 2c with Skinner and Kahun he would be fine?


I actually think he and Skinner would do very well together. Skinner's rough season aside, they both make strong impacts at 5v5, and are complimentary to each other. Skinner is a fantastic goalscorer, especially at even strength and Nylander is great at creating shot assists and putting the puck on teammates sticks when they are in a position to score... could be a deadly duo imo.
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7 jui 2020 à 4 h 43
#15
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Quoting: aadoyle
True, actually if u think about it Dubas can trade down to 9th or 10th spot get a 2nd or something in exchange for doing so than draft Askarov. It worked out well when he drafted sandin as he moved 5 spots and got a 3rd. With the pick being much higher he can grab a 2nd easily giving us pick depth that can be endless.

So lets say we decide to go for Braden Schneider at 11 (we trade Minnesota the 8th overall for their 11th and a 2020 2nd)


Leafs had mixed results trading down in the past. Sandin was a great pick, but they also traded down in 2015 and could’ve had Konecny, but instead had a combo of Bracco, Dermott, and some AHL plugs who will never see the light of day in the NHL.
7 jui 2020 à 4 h 45
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Quoting: mhockey91
Leafs had mixed results trading down in the past. Sandin was a great pick, but they also traded down in 2015 and could’ve had Konecny, but instead had a combo of Bracco, Dermott, and some AHL plugs who will never see the light of day in the NHL.


I would say it's pretty safe to draft down as this is one of the deepest drafts since 2005. I say f the happened dubas should move from the 8th spot to the 15th get an extra 2nd and draft Braden Schneider. Sure Rossi would be the but Schneider is a solid defensive defense man and with the extra 2nd dubas can have some fun possibly getting another steal like he did with Robertson
7 jui 2020 à 4 h 51
#17
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Quoting: aadoyle
I would say it's pretty safe to draft down as this is one of the deepest drafts since 2005. I say f the happened dubas should move from the 8th spot to the 15th get an extra 2nd and draft Braden Schneider. Sure Rossi would be the but Schneider is a solid defensive defense man and with the extra 2nd dubas can have some fun possibly getting another steal like he did with Robertson


I mean it’s not like it’ll happen cause leafs won’t trade nylander so earliest they could pick is like 15ish anyways. Which like you said would be Brendan Schneider because I believe the Carolina trade is conditional on playoffs
7 jui 2020 à 8 h 17
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I dont think this Nashville trade can be ignored.
This is actually the worst trade imaginable
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7 jui 2020 à 9 h 10
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Quoting: aadoyle
Nylander can play center, there was just no need for him to do it cause we had center depth for days.


The Sabres would be asking him to produce more than he did playing with Auston Matthew's and John Tavares playing with Skinner and maybe Reinhart. Good players but not elite. Additionally he would have added defensive responsibilities playing C that would take away from his offensive game. This is too high a price for the Sabres to pay for this player. Perhaps another team more established down the wing that needs his offensive punch on the wing but Nylander and Skinner together on a line would be a nightmare defensively unless they were playing with a Selke caliber forward as their third linemate
7 jui 2020 à 9 h 15
#20
Lets go Preds
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
I dont think this Nashville trade can be ignored.
This is actually the worst trade imaginable


Didn’t skinner just have a horrible season though? And at 9 million for another 7 seasons is bad if he can’t bounce back
7 jui 2020 à 9 h 21
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
Didn’t skinner just have a horrible season though? And at 9 million for another 7 seasons is bad if he can’t bounce back


Ok so let's just trade him and a good prospect for *checks notes*
Turris making 6 mil for 4 years and could barely make the lineup in Nashville
Yup I dont know you got me there.

Or we can play skinner not with sobotka and other trash players and let him thrive with people that can play hockey
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7 jui 2020 à 9 h 22
#22
Lets go Preds
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
That Nashville trade is easily the worst I’ve ever seen suggested on here

Sorry to be so harsh,
but we’re easily giving up the 2 best pieces
And Turris blows
It’s just really bad


Didn’t skinner just get 8 less points than Turris this years?
7 jui 2020 à 9 h 44
#23
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres
Ok so let's just trade him and a good prospect for *checks notes*
Turris making 6 mil for 4 years and could barely make the lineup in Nashville
Yup I dont know you got me there.

Or we can play skinner not with sobotka and other trash players and let him thrive with people that can play hockey

Turris was in Laviolettes dog house and was either put on the 4th line with probably the same quality of line mate that skinner was put with or was benched for a guy that only played 4 minutes. When he was put in a position that wasn’t the 4th line when hynes got here he started to improve 13 points in the last 23 games. Playing in all situations ,PK ,defensive roles were the most surprising. The point being you have to know the situations why a player had a down year. Turris broke his foot last year came back 2 early and rebroke the same foot And injured his ribs as well. This year when he looked healthy was bumped all around the line up mostly the bottom of it. And didn’t seem to have a place for him. Then was benched because of his coach. I think if Turris could get in place where he could play 2c around players like skinner and maybe Reinhart he could be 50 point possibly 60 point player. I think instead of a skinner Turris trade buffalo should take a chance on Turris maybe Having the preds retain a million or million and half Of his salary and play him at 2c
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7 jui 2020 à 11 h 04
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
Turris was in Laviolettes dog house and was either put on the 4th line with probably the same quality of line mate that skinner was put with or was benched for a guy that only played 4 minutes. When he was put in a position that wasn’t the 4th line when hynes got here he started to improve 13 points in the last 23 games. Playing in all situations ,PK ,defensive roles were the most surprising. The point being you have to know the situations why a player had a down year. Turris broke his foot last year came back 2 early and rebroke the same foot And injured his ribs as well. This year when he looked healthy was bumped all around the line up mostly the bottom of it. And didn’t seem to have a place for him. Then was benched because of his coach. I think if Turris could get in place where he could play 2c around players like skinner and maybe Reinhart he could be 50 point possibly 60 point player. I think instead of a skinner Turris trade buffalo should take a chance on Turris maybe Having the preds retain a million or million and half Of his salary and play him at 2c
7 jui 2020 à 11 h 04
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Quoting: RoyalBlueSabres


How can he play with skinner if were trading him and mitts for turris
 
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